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Freya Berserker - much weaker than non-valiant counterpart, Vincent Berserker

Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:59 am

Vincent Berserker is one of the most popular champion unit and strangely, freya berserker can hardly be found in the top tier teams. Makes one wonder why top tier teams completely shy away from her, while rampantly abusing vincent berserker like no tomorrow. 


One of the reasons is her incredibly underwhelming (compared to vincent's) aura, which has a 30% chance of trigger teammates to attack with 75% atk and stun for 1 turn. On paper, it would seem like a decent ability but in practice, it is alarmingly ineffective and un-intuitive. Upon testing with my freya berserker, it has a 1 in 3 chance (roughly) of triggering 1 teammate (each has a 30% chance of attacking; not a 30% chance to trigger all 3 in aura) to attack the enemy who attacked freya. This would mean the enemy who has already attacked freya gets stunned for 1 turn, making it a completely useless disable, not to mention the incredibly low activation chance. Comparatively, vincent berserker reliably (75%) boosts his own ATK and that of his teammates by 25%, allowing him to out-damage freya berserker and become the hardest hitting hero in this entire game. Even on its own, Freya's passive aura is underwhelming even when compared to other regular non-valiant units, making it one of the lousier auras despite being a valiant.


Secondly, her skill lowers her DEF by an astounding 30% while her vincent counterpart loses 20% of his HP. With the decent buff to the DEF stat, this DEF debuff to her hurts so much more than vincent's self-harm debuff.


Hence, I suggest reworking freya berserker's passive aura (e.g. when others in her aura get attacked, she attacks, which fits her "gung-ho" image, or boost herself and teammates' ATK but guaranteed), as well as her skill's self-debuff (removed, or at least match vincent's HP self-damage but 15%) to increase her exceedingly underwhelming viability in PVP.


TLDR: Both of Freya's Aura and Skill's self-debuff are worse than that of Vincent's; to be reworked.
 
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Re: Freya Berserker - much weaker than non-valiant counterpart, Vincent Berserker

Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:32 am

Yes.. agree.

But maybe should post it at feedback and suggestion thread..

Or maybe in here..
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1131
 
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Re: Freya Berserker - much weaker than non-valiant counterpart, Vincent Berserker

Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:49 pm

Vincent Berserker is one of the most popular champion unit and strangely, freya berserker can hardly be found in the top tier teams. Makes one wonder why top tier teams completely shy away from her, while rampantly abusing vincent berserker like no tomorrow. 


One of the reasons is her incredibly underwhelming (compared to vincent's) aura, which has a 30% chance of trigger teammates to attack with 75% atk and stun for 1 turn. On paper, it would seem like a decent ability but in practice, it is alarmingly ineffective and un-intuitive. Upon testing with my freya berserker, it has a 1 in 3 chance (roughly) of triggering 1 teammate (each has a 30% chance of attacking; not a 30% chance to trigger all 3 in aura) to attack the enemy who attacked freya. This would mean the enemy who has already attacked freya gets stunned for 1 turn, making it a completely useless disable, not to mention the incredibly low activation chance. Comparatively, vincent berserker reliably (75%) boosts his own ATK and that of his teammates by 25%, allowing him to out-damage freya berserker and become the hardest hitting hero in this entire game. Even on its own, Freya's passive aura is underwhelming even when compared to other regular non-valiant units, making it one of the lousier auras despite being a valiant.


Secondly, her skill lowers her DEF by an astounding 30% while her vincent counterpart loses 20% of his HP. With the decent buff to the DEF stat, this DEF debuff to her hurts so much more than vincent's self-harm debuff.


Hence, I suggest reworking freya berserker's passive aura (e.g. when others in her aura get attacked, she attacks, which fits her "gung-ho" image, or boost herself and teammates' ATK but guaranteed), as well as her skill's self-debuff (removed, or at least match vincent's HP self-damage but 15%) to increase her exceedingly underwhelming viability in PVP.


TLDR: Both of Freya's Aura and Skill's self-debuff are worse than that of Vincent's; to be reworked.

+1

I concur to this but post this to the suggestions/feedbacks section so that the devs and admins could read this well suggested statement.
 
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Re: Freya Berserker - much weaker than non-valiant counterpart, Vincent Berserker

Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:30 pm

This is the reason why im scared to see a team with zerk Vincent than a zerk Freya :O
 
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Re: Freya Berserker - much weaker than non-valiant counterpart, Vincent Berserker

Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:10 pm

Never thought about it. I'm just more scared of Vincent because of the sole reason that he's LB'ed 90% of the time compared to a Zerk Freya. 
 
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Re: Freya Berserker - much weaker than non-valiant counterpart, Vincent Berserker

Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:43 pm

In my opinion, i think she should stay as she is. This will give Vincent some value as a 5 * potential