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Re: Git Gud? GET REKT!!! (Your arena system is shyt)

Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:28 pm

Well I agree with you that the arena system is a bit flawed, but I have so far did okay, managing to gain 6k of blood gems even at around bronze. I would usually advise new players to avoid the arena and think of it as earning 3 blood points instead.

I lost a lot all the time, managing only 2-3 wins every five orbs though sometimes I get lucky and win all 5. I play a disruption based team with mindwader, Ranger and miu. Those really mess up the AI combo. Though occasionally I meet those power Ranger weapon users and lose horribly, but it gets fun once you familiarise with your arena team
 
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Re: Git Gud? GET REKT!!! (Your arena system is shyt)

Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:06 pm

Just because you are shitty, you say the system is shit? Anyone who plays for at least 2 months can easily get a 5 members 5* team to have a regular 60-70% win chance easily
 
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Re: Git Gud? GET REKT!!! (Your arena system is shyt)

Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:06 pm

Thing is, there are alot of people like me who doesnt really give a shit about rankings. I can say with a full confidence, that I can be on the top 20 or top 30 with my new hero set up.

But hey? You only get a few more blood gems in the champ tier per week compared to master 2 or 3.

I dont have the luxury to open VF every few hours to play arena. As long as I earn a good amount of blood gems per week, thats good enough. If I have like 6k blood gems while my Valiant ticket cooldown is still like 20ish days, then I dont need to rush.

I have never gotten more than 6 or 7 losses per week. I plow through enemies easily. All because I dont want to give me any unnecessary pressure from trying to stay on the top 50.

And because of my 6-7 losses per week, it became really frustrating for me to lost to some cancerous double tank back then, though I do have a cure to those teams right now.

You wanna be on top? I know a guy with 0 prestige on top 50 arena. It's possible.


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Re: Git Gud? GET REKT!!! (Your arena system is shyt)

Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:37 pm

F2P player here, enjoying my arena runs.

From bronze to low silver, I actually looked at the match previews then skipped the unfavorable matchups against 5* teams.

I got a CK Victoria recently and also LB'd my Sylvia from the bad pulls. I climbed from 1600 to 1900 pretty quickly. It felt good as a reward for fusing all those fodder I got.

I noticed that there are dips on the matchmaking on some ranks that my team had an easier time.

The elo-like rankings seem fair, I experienced similar on other games. 2 wins to recover from 1 loss is ok. The only way to rank up is to actually outclass your rank and win consecutively.
 
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Re: Git Gud? GET REKT!!! (Your arena system is shyt)

Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:47 pm

As mods, we can't really criticize players for not trying, but please do try.

We have a team of internal testers, and do have a group of F2P players doing really well in the top few tiers.
 
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Re: Git Gud? GET REKT!!! (Your arena system is shyt)

Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:50 pm

Wht r u?? Casul??

I am currently Bronze 1100 and won't touch the arena until I pimp all of my squad into something worth taking to the arena with.
So you are currently in Bronze 3 and already got butthurt?
Don't worry, be glad that you didn't climb until Diamond and up, where mostly you will get headache from a tanky Zerk, RNG squad, follower of Explosion (Kiera), smart Ninja Kira, and many more cancer.

Master 3 was fun, I bailed out from there already though :D

Enjoy the arena dude. Get rekt and git gud are part of arena life. Don't expect 5 arena orbs will all results in Perfect +15. Victory +9 alone is happiness :D
(Though you might end up losing more that what you should gain, chill brah. We all had those time too.)
 
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Re: Git Gud? GET REKT!!! (Your arena system is shyt)

Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:08 pm

F2P player here, enjoying my arena runs.

From bronze to low silver, I actually looked at the match previews then skipped the unfavorable matchups against 5* teams.

I got a CK Victoria recently and also LB'd my Sylvia from the bad pulls. I climbed from 1600 to 1900 pretty quickly. It felt good as a reward for fusing all those fodder I got.

I noticed that there are dips on the matchmaking on some ranks that my team had an easier time.

The elo-like rankings seem fair, I experienced similar on other games. 2 wins to recover from 1 loss is ok. The only way to rank up is to actually outclass your rank and win consecutively.
Protip: If you have the time, don't skip your fights. Even a loss gives 3 precious tokens towards your Valiant ticket (or arena hero). Not to mention you always learn more from your losses.

Something I learnt after skipping a lot early on ;)
 
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Re: Git Gud? GET REKT!!! (Your arena system is shyt)

Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:44 pm

Team building for Arena is partially based on skill, and also there's luck involved.
1) For the skill part, choosing the correct team composition is important. For the luck part, matchup is important.
For example, if your strategy is simply obliterate enemies, and you match up with a team that is built based on tank everything until skill spam stun sleep blind, you are dead. If your strategy is tile control (rune magus + ninja + dragoon), and you match up with a zerker vincent team who is geared to protect and smash, he'll kill your RM and break your set up. Luck do play a part, and of course, if you see team build, you MIGHT be able to have a feel if your team is able to win.

2) Power OVERWHELMING
There are players in PvP who already have
- Max level characters at +2, maybe even mlb
- Equipment +15, and 5*, 6* ones at that
- Fully runed +15

Given that limit break at max alone gives about +10% - +20% in stats, stat difference when you meet these players would mean something like double your basic stats especially if they focus on specific stats.
For examples, say atk stat is 3,000 at max level, +2. At mlb that will mean about 3600, more or less. If all equipment is Might suffix, getting 2000 atk is pretty easy. So that alone gives 5,600. Now comes the rune combination which gives some +20% atk base, with the bonus from the atk runes alone hitting close to 500 or more. So you will get something like 7,000++ atk, before crit. For a zerk, bonus dmg from allies in aura... Pretty much 1 hit kills.

Still, do note that this is an extreme case, most players can't reach that (yet), but good planning can bring you close to 70% of that, so against those players... well, good luck!
 
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Re: Git Gud? GET REKT!!! (Your arena system is shyt)

Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:46 pm

it's possible as a f2p bruh. just careful team planning and battle analysis. prestige 0 here, highest points i ever climbed to was 4200+. In fact pvp is the thing that draws me in the most about this game, i love it.
 
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Re: Git Gud? GET REKT!!! (Your arena system is shyt)

Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:48 am

prestige 2 here and been playing for around 2 month,
and still can get the champion rank milestone, 
and every week still can enter the top 70 rank. 
just can't get to the top 50 rank without buying orb.
since my winrate still at around 90%, 

the important thing is to focus your build on the units that you have, 
there are many squad buildup in this game, 
you can see the top arena player, 
there is no single meta in arena,
because this game arena systems didn't rely on auto battle, 
but we can play it manually,
so the squad buildup have to match our playstyle. 

keep battling and keep learning about the strategy for the arena especially the enemy AI movement 
and also keep upgrading your equipment and rune,
that is very important for your character growth,