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Re: Unofficial Gem?

Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:54 am

top players here

its pretty easy to reach 1-50 top arena everyweek with no gem speding at all 
and may be top 1 arena with 2/3 times orb buying everyday 

and if someone really cheat around here its pretty easy to detect beacause most thing in this game have its own kind of limit (like arena orb gem speding increase significantly )
 
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Re: Unofficial Gem?

Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:17 pm

top players here

its pretty easy to reach 1-50 top arena everyweek with no gem speding at all 
and may be top 1 arena with 2/3 times orb buying everyday 

and if someone really cheat around here its pretty easy to detect beacause most thing in this game have its own kind of limit (like arena orb gem speding increase significantly )
Its not cheating because they actually pay for those gem, so they could use it however they like imo , the problem lies in the method on acquiring those said gems.

Since all payments are going directly to the devs account, it might be hard / impossible to distinguish the difference between "cheap" and legit one :(
 
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Re: Unofficial Gem?

Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:02 pm

top players here

its pretty easy to reach 1-50 top arena everyweek with no gem speding at all 
and may be top 1 arena with 2/3 times orb buying everyday 

and if someone really cheat around here its pretty easy to detect beacause most thing in this game have its own kind of limit (like arena orb gem speding increase significantly )
Its not cheating because they actually pay for those gem, so they could use it however they like imo , the problem lies in the method on acquiring those said gems.

Since all payments are going directly to the devs account, it might be hard / impossible to distinguish the difference between "cheap" and legit one :(
Since the payment have to do an in-game-purchase, IMO there is no way to buy cheaper gems without hacking through the system. I think 3. Purchasing of “cheap” gems  is 100% SCAM.
 
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Re: Unofficial Gem?

Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:28 pm

I think we getting abit off topic here..
We just need this leonzai to come explain what do they mean by unofficial gem? The term they use..

But as long the gem and arena orb tally, how u want to say the person cheating?
 
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Re: Unofficial Gem?

Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:45 pm

Since all payments are going directly to the devs account, it might be hard / impossible to distinguish the difference between "cheap" and legit one :(
Since the payment have to do an in-game-purchase, IMO there is no way to buy cheaper gems without hacking through the system. I think 3. Purchasing of “cheap” gems  is 100% SCAM.
This is just me sharing my bad experience on other games with those kind of sellers (not mobile game btw) :
Those selling "cheap" gems pay normal amount to the developer (this is only happen if they are not scamming), however the money they used is not theirs (carding / stolen cc, etc) , so you still get what you bought on much cheaper rate.

hence my question on earlier post , is it possible to do dispute on payment made through appstore ? , because if the real owner of the cc dispute the payment and win, the devs wont receive their money. And your account will be most likely ended up locked / banned ( this was my case on the other game ) ,If you cant dispute payment on appstore tho , then its all about morality..

All that said , buying from those "cheap gem" seller will only pose yourself to risk of being banned / scammed
 
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Re: Unofficial Gem?

Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:17 pm

Since all payments are going directly to the devs account, it might be hard / impossible to distinguish the difference between "cheap" and legit one :(
Since the payment have to do an in-game-purchase, IMO there is no way to buy cheaper gems without hacking through the system. I think 3. Purchasing of “cheap” gems  is 100% SCAM.
This is just me sharing my bad experience on other games with those kind of sellers (not mobile game btw) :
Those selling "cheap" gems pay normal amount to the developer (this is only happen if they are not scamming), however the money they used is not theirs (carding / stolen cc, etc) , so you still get what you bought on much cheaper rate.

hence my question on earlier post , is it possible to do dispute on payment made through appstore ? , because if the real owner of the cc dispute the payment and win, the devs wont receive their money. And your account will be most likely ended up locked / banned ( this was my case on the other game ) ,If you cant dispute payment on appstore tho , then its all about morality..

All that said , buying from those "cheap gem" seller will only pose yourself to risk of being banned / scammed
This makes the most sense, considering the sale of these 'cheap currency' is prevalent in other games as well and not just Valiant force.
 
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Re: Unofficial Gem?

Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:42 pm

Since all payments are going directly to the devs account, it might be hard / impossible to distinguish the difference between "cheap" and legit one :(
Since the payment have to do an in-game-purchase, IMO there is no way to buy cheaper gems without hacking through the system. I think 3. Purchasing of “cheap” gems  is 100% SCAM.
This is just me sharing my bad experience on other games with those kind of sellers (not mobile game btw) :
Those selling "cheap" gems pay normal amount to the developer (this is only happen if they are not scamming), however the money they used is not theirs (carding / stolen cc, etc) , so you still get what you bought on much cheaper rate.

hence my question on earlier post , is it possible to do dispute on payment made through appstore ? , because if the real owner of the cc dispute the payment and win, the devs wont receive their money. And your account will be most likely ended up locked / banned ( this was my case on the other game ) ,If you cant dispute payment on appstore tho , then its all about morality..

All that said , buying from those "cheap gem" seller will only pose yourself to risk of being banned / scammed
I clearly see your point now :) That way is surely a SCAM lol
 
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Re: Unofficial Gem?

Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:16 pm

Since all payments are going directly to the devs account, it might be hard / impossible to distinguish the difference between "cheap" and legit one :(
Since the payment have to do an in-game-purchase, IMO there is no way to buy cheaper gems without hacking through the system. I think 3. Purchasing of “cheap” gems  is 100% SCAM.
This is just me sharing my bad experience on other games with those kind of sellers (not mobile game btw) :
Those selling "cheap" gems pay normal amount to the developer (this is only happen if they are not scamming), however the money they used is not theirs (carding / stolen cc, etc) , so you still get what you bought on much cheaper rate.

hence my question on earlier post , is it possible to do dispute on payment made through appstore ? , because if the real owner of the cc dispute the payment and win, the devs wont receive their money. And your account will be most likely ended up locked / banned ( this was my case on the other game ) ,If you cant dispute payment on appstore tho , then its all about morality..

All that said , buying from those "cheap gem" seller will only pose yourself to risk of being banned / scammed
On your point, it will be saying someone buy a $10 itune card, but sell it as $8. It is not a scam if i got a $10 card, that I want to sell as $8, but it is if i got the $10 card illegally, through stealing etc.
So it boils down to integrity and if the money is really "stolen", that is no way to say that the end seller is at fault, but return the $8 or deduct additional $2 to the person. Which it will then involve police.
 
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Re: Unofficial Gem?

Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:56 pm

The only way I can think of other than scam is that there are some promotions and such on google play credit and you can get them for discount sometimes.
For example a certain carrier provider in a certain country who has promotion with google play and their SIM credit can be used for purchase in google play store.
Of course this is for all apps not just valiant force