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+1 to TS. When everyone is using the same ***t you know it's imbalanced. A stale meta makes pvp boring, and boring pvp will drive away paying players very quickly.

Those saying it's ok don't know ***t about competitive gaming (hint: it involves balance and variety) and probably don't care for the game's longevity.

I agree, I can't see how archers are NOT broken right now, they have almost zero hard counter to them.
Warriors, guardian, ninjas need to waste turns walking, vulnerable to knock back/swapping.
Priest don't do damage, they sustains those above, yet vulnerable to the same counter-measures.
Mages have AOE, but their normal attack hits like wet noodle? the splash becomes even...Have to wait to cast their skills yet they are dead by then.
Archers have them all. High damage, ranged basic attack, crazy trigger with synergies with high crit, works even better with multiple archers.

Sorry if I'm too new that I missed out something, but why does the top 10 arena filled with archers? but 0 Kiera (the VALIANT mage) among them. Right now I'm just willing to give up all my mages and priest just for a kain+cybella.

this turns out to be a great thread, was expecting more bashing like it was when I made my first thread.

yes, people never complains because it is relatively easy to imitate the form and abuse the fook out of it. Just make sure you have at least 50% crit rate on your GS Bella and youre ready to go to town.

now whenever Im fighting an archer team, I always hope that I get the first turn and fook my opp's archers first. Or if I get the 2nd turn, I pray to the dank god that my opp wont get the triggers. 

Now the main problem is with GS Bella having 95% Trigger rate with no damage reduction. Push her crit rate to 50% and youre almost guaranteed to have at least 1 trigger from 2 attacks.

The reason I started this thread was because there is no concrete wall counter to these threats. a full bulky-capture point team cant win because GR has knockback trigger, which knocks those tankers to the 2nd or 3rd row, but that's not the only reason. THEY'LL PROB DIE BEFORE REACHING THE TILE LMAO.

Ok,

the problem is, do you meet them everytime? Unless they are always in the list, or else it is not possible to build the "perfect" squad. thats why you always lose to a certain squad.

I see that the problem is more of a frequency in the arena. Yes, I've met at least 3 out 5 squads using the archer trigger. Most time I use my ninja to disrupt their formation by swapping into GS Cybella or whoever is the middle archer instead of swapping with someone in the central tiles. I sometimes lose my champions in Turn 1 (Mygad, that's horrible) but I guess we just have to find a way to oppose them

Ok,

the problem is, do you meet them everytime? Unless they are always in the list, or else it is not possible to build the "perfect" squad. thats why you always lose to a certain squad.

I can say that the tripler archer formation is foolproof, it totally works against any other team.
PS:
Just got my Kane, triple archer form soon.

u can try freya berserker + archer to counter trigger the archer trigger team
make freya tanky a bit and wait for all those stun and even killed enemy archer sometimes

u can try freya berserker + archer to counter trigger the archer trigger team
make freya tanky a bit and wait for all those stun and even killed enemy archer sometimes

The problem is, valiants are random. My friend even got 4 lucille already since OBT xD

u can try freya berserker + archer to counter trigger the archer trigger team
make freya tanky a bit and wait for all those stun and even killed enemy archer sometimes

The problem is, valiants are random. My friend even got 4 lucille already since OBT xD

5 lucille in my case

u can try freya berserker + archer to counter trigger the archer trigger team
make freya tanky a bit and wait for all those stun and even killed enemy archer sometimes

The problem is, valiants are random. My friend even got 4 lucille already since OBT xD

That's not bad imo unless he really lacks DPS then 4 lucille might be an overkill. Limit Breaking into Level 36 Lucille is very tanky though!