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Re: New server... What?

Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:04 pm

the servers with the mentioned countries are very common in most mobile games and has been this way since many years ago, you will know if you played other gacha games/mobile games.

: you dont want to see floods of jap,korean,chinese in chat and not being able to understand it.
I played a tons of them.
Any many dies for this same reason.

Why does someone has to care about the chat if no one use it? or if there are not even player that use it?
no one will want to join a old server of a newly launched game in their country. even if they do they will still quit due to the gap, so obviously the developers will choose the option that attracts and retain new players (thats how you make money to keep the game running+ being able to fund the growth).  Back to square 1 within a month if they only use 1 server


::::: partially why the server is dying pretty much the same scenario as above, CBT keep their accounts, new players see gap, not everyone are willing to chase like a several hundred of accounts that are 1&2months into the game before them. First choice is to leave. Hence the server size is already small, next we dont have the patience to wait for updates(this is a new game) so it drop even smaller to where it is now. So you cant really can't blame the devs, pretty much the butterfly effect starting from CBT.
 
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Re: New server... What?

Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:35 pm

the servers with the mentioned countries are very common in most mobile games and has been this way since many years ago, you will know if you played other gacha games/mobile games.

: you dont want to see floods of jap,korean,chinese in chat and not being able to understand it.
I played a tons of them.
Any many dies for this same reason.

Why does someone has to care about the chat if no one use it? or if there are not even player that use it?
no one will want to join a old server of a newly launched game in their country. even if they do they will still quit due to the gap, so obviously the developers will choose the option that attracts and retain new players (thats how you make money to keep the game running+ being able to fund the growth).  Back to square 1 within a month if they only use 1 server


::::: partially why the server is dying pretty much the same scenario as above, CBT keep their accounts, new players see gap, not everyone are willing to chase like a several hundred of accounts that are 1&2months into the game before them. First choice is to leave. Hence the server size is already small, next we dont have the patience to wait for updates(this is a new game) so it drop even smaller to where it is now. So you cant really can't blame the devs, pretty much the butterfly effect starting from CBT.
I was one of the few people that was asking a wipe after the cbt even if i had a account full of shiny things on the beta itself.
Then yes, it's all about mistakes that devs make, not the community ofcourse..


Many people advice many kind of solutions for make newcomers more happy about what their are playing, like 2 different arena, one for old players and one for new people.
There is one big thing that kill games faster than anything else; no people on the server.

And that's what is happening to our server right now.
And if nothing will be add to it, or change to reverse this effect, this server will be dead in 2 months.

I can say it for sure because from the houndreds of beta players i was play from the start with, i can count how many are still here in 1 hand.


Anyway everyone can say is opinion, but only the time will judge and say how was right and how was blind. 
 
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Re: New server... What?

Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:17 pm

I played a tons of them.
Any many dies for this same reason.

Why does someone has to care about the chat if no one use it? or if there are not even player that use it?
no one will want to join a old server of a newly launched game in their country. even if they do they will still quit due to the gap, so obviously the developers will choose the option that attracts and retain new players (thats how you make money to keep the game running+ being able to fund the growth).  Back to square 1 within a month if they only use 1 server


::::: partially why the server is dying pretty much the same scenario as above, CBT keep their accounts, new players see gap, not everyone are willing to chase like a several hundred of accounts that are 1&2months into the game before them. First choice is to leave. Hence the server size is already small, next we dont have the patience to wait for updates(this is a new game) so it drop even smaller to where it is now. So you cant really can't blame the devs, pretty much the butterfly effect starting from CBT.
I was one of the few people that was asking a wipe after the cbt even if i had a account full of shiny things on the beta itself.
Then yes, it's all about mistakes that devs make, not the community ofcourse..


Many people advice many kind of solutions for make newcomers more happy about what their are playing, like 2 different arena, one for old players and one for new people.
There is one big thing that kill games faster than anything else; no people on the server.

And that's what is happening to our server right now.
And if nothing will be add to it, or change to reverse this effect, this server will be dead in 2 months.

I can say it for sure because from the houndreds of beta players i was play from the start with, i can count how many are still here in 1 hand.


Anyway everyone can say is opinion, but only the time will judge and say how was right and how was blind. 
well they have to work on the game. Fighting for 50spots in arena is lame. Event ladder used to have good rewardds from 5% now its 1%. Prices of bundles used to be 30 then 35 then 45 ( to match the amount of what was provided in the bundle) -
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Re: New server... What?

Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:55 am

So gimme a reason why would a new player play on an old server? So that they can feel hopeless when they see event ladder occupied by 70's and 80's which they played since CBT? So they can rant and whine cause passing the 1100 bronze border is as hard as legendary 24-3?
 
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Re: New server... What?

Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:13 am

So gimme a reason why would a new player play on an old server? So that they can feel hopeless when they see event ladder occupied by 70's and 80's which they played since CBT? So they can rant and whine cause passing the 1100 bronze border is as hard as legendary 24-3?
If you can't read the thread before reply you have a problem my friend.
Enjoy the empty server on the next months!
 
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Re: New server... What?

Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:23 am

As a new player, I dont mind the gap between being new and the old players.

This game is pretty generous when it comes to giving out gems. Compared to other games, grabbing all the free gems that it hands out its light years beyond in generosity.

Other games its a terrible terrible grind just to collect enough free gems to finally do a premium draw x10. For instance, I was trying out Dragonica yesterday, and I just couldn't stomach the grind and I just uninstalled. I know its apples to oranges with that game. But still, we talking free gems.

Other games like Seven Knights, Soccer Spirits, its hella more grindy. Granted Seven Knights hands out enough free gems in 1.5 days to do a draw, you literally have to grind every waking hour to attain them, I am sure you guys know exactly what I mean, VF is the first android/ios gacha game that is really generous. And I hope they continue to be generous with events, because if they don't, then yes I can see this game dying quicker than what you guys are claiming it to be. If people see what I see, I am sure lots will stick around.

Oh and if someone can recommend even more generous gacha games with great art and decent gameplay, spit it out, I'm ready to try it :D
 
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Re: New server... What?

Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:03 am

So gimme a reason why would a new player play on an old server? So that they can feel hopeless when they see event ladder occupied by 70's and 80's which they played since CBT? So they can rant and whine cause passing the 1100 bronze border is as hard as legendary 24-3?
If you can't read the thread before reply you have a problem my friend.
Enjoy the empty server on the next months!
Well yeah.. playing server 2 now and its fun cause i saw alot more active player chatting on the chat compare to S1. Just continue whine. They wont stop just because a handful of player complaining while there is a lot more potential player across the globe. 
 
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Re: New server... What?

Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:30 am

So gimme a reason why would a new player play on an old server? So that they can feel hopeless when they see event ladder occupied by 70's and 80's which they played since CBT? So they can rant and whine cause passing the 1100 bronze border is as hard as legendary 24-3?
@jt1991 - Unfortunately I really can't agree with someone whose view of games ends with p2w walls, these walls exist in all games that allow purchases, if that is your go-to excuse, why play iap games at all? Sooner or later the wall goes up. If you not crying about it the first month, you'll be crying about it in three or more. And everyone with the same mindset shouldn't bother with playing these gacha games.
I started and like this game simply cause the game offers good art, daily quests are simple (doesn't take like 3 hours to finish like some gacha games), rewards are great, not excruciating grindy like a lot of other gacha games.
 
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Re: New server... What?

Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:55 am

So gimme a reason why would a new player play on an old server? So that they can feel hopeless when they see event ladder occupied by 70's and 80's which they played since CBT? So they can rant and whine cause passing the 1100 bronze border is as hard as legendary 24-3?
If you can't read the thread before reply you have a problem my friend.
Enjoy the empty server on the next months!
Well yeah.. playing server 2 now and its fun cause i saw alot more active player chatting on the chat compare to S1. Just continue whine. They wont stop just because a handful of player complaining while there is a lot more potential player across the globe. 
Handful players?
Mostly those who complains are p2p and old players whos been dedicating their time and money on the game.
And those who are happy about this are mostly you and several other free players and those who just started. There's no guarantee they will stay for long which kinda describes the devs and the game unfaithful to their loyal and old players which is one of the reason many quits in old server.
You want rank ladders empty so u can climb it easy and free..? I dont think thats what on the developers mind and goal.
Maybe at first this looks good, but for long term scale for the game the cycle will just keeps repeating itself.
Make server > new players join and old players moved > lost players > make new server again
Let's see if thats good enough to make the game keep running.
 
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Re: New server... What?

Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:09 pm

Personally, I'm disappointed in a sudden new server. In most games that I know of, new server announcements are like a week before... This is now too sudden, and splitting up the already limited number of players... well, I personally like VF, so I'll try and stay, but as number of actives dwindle, my motivation to stay dwindles too...

Btw, I'll try playing on both servers to see how's the situation first...
Interestingly, there are already 5* Teresa Inquisitors and Zedd MW in my friendlist lol.