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Hi everyone, today I am bringing you a continuation of my quest to find out the percentage chance of summoning the New Event Hero. For this event, I did one summon daily(as can be seen from the quest completion sign after every summon. Here are the statistics:

Gems: 5600
Potential 5*: 11
New Event Hero(Nadia): 1
Increased Summon Rate Other Hero(Vincent): 2
Valiantite: 34

Mr.Snowman Showdown
Gems: 5600
Potential 5*: 13
New Event Hero(Ronan): 3
Increased Summon Rate Other Hero(Teresa): 3

As can be seen from above, it seems that with the introduction of Valianite, the chance of summoning the New Event Hero decreased from 2.1% to 0.7% 

That being said, with 34 Valianite, I could easily have exchanged for 2 more event heroes for the price of 15 Valianite each. At this point, I would like to thank XII Braves for implementing the Valianite feature. It has a very fluid function and I look forward to it's permanent stay here within the game.  

PS: you can still increase the rates as that would please the populace and perhaps retain the current player base

To F2P players out there, you might want to save up for 3200 gems and only spend them when you feel you need a particular Hero. This is because you might not get what you want from the summons themselves but at least you still can exchange the Hero for 15 Valiantite. 

Again, please note that the statistics above might not be accurate due to the small sample size of 140 draws. I will continue my quest for the rates in the next event. 

If you have not view my 5600 Gem Summoning for the last event, check out the video below: 
If you feel this video has been useful to you, please Like and Subscribe!

As always, any comment on how to improve the video or content would be grealy appreciated! 

Update Log: 
Used Sony Vegas to piece together the video as some of the summoning were taken using Airshou on iPhone.
Based on my girlfriend's opinion, I have change the overlay of the video. Inspired by Till Eternity Gaming. 
Based on comments from previous videos, I have been using only music with no singing. 

Thank you JamesWong.

Thank you JamesWong.

Thanks for watching and your continued support! 

We are glad that Valianite is working as intended We do hope the selectors will make most, if not everyone who rolls multiple 10x, more satisfied than before.

Of course, we will continue to look into more ways to improve the overall system

We are glad that Valianite is working as intended We do hope the selectors will make most, if not everyone who rolls multiple 10x, more satisfied than before.

Of course, we will continue to look into more ways to improve the overall system

Hi Ryozanki, 

I was just wondering if the rates for summoning a 5* potential or even the New Event Hero has indeed gone down as compared to during the Mr.Snowman Showdown? If so, is this due to the addition of 4* Heroes such as Seraphim into the pool or an intended decrease due to the inclusion of Valianite?

 Thanks for reading and commenting!

Hi everyone, today I am bringing you a continuation of my quest to find out the percentage chance of summoning the New Event Hero. For this event, I did one summon daily(as can be seen from the quest completion sign after every summon. Here are the statistics:

Gems: 5600
Potential 5*: 11
New Event Hero(Nadia): 1
Increased Summon Rate Other Hero(Vincent): 2
Valiantite: 34

Mr.Snowman Showdown
Gems: 5600
Potential 5*: 13
New Event Hero(Ronan): 3
Increased Summon Rate Other Hero(Teresa): 3

As can be seen from above, it seems that with the introduction of Valianite, the chance of summoning the New Event Hero decreased from 2.1% to 0.7% 

That being said, with 34 Valianite, I could easily have exchanged for 2 more event heroes for the price of 15 Valianite each. At this point, I would like to thank XII Braves for implementing the Valianite feature. It has a very fluid function and I look forward to it's permanent stay here within the game.  

PS: you can still increase the rates as that would please the populace and perhaps retain the current player base

To F2P players out there, you might want to save up for 3200 gems and only spend them when you feel you need a particular Hero. This is because you might not get what you want from the summons themselves but at least you still can exchange the Hero for 15 Valiantite. 

Again, please note that the statistics above might not be accurate due to the small sample size of 140 draws. I will continue my quest for the rates in the next event. 

If you have not view my 5600 Gem Summoning for the last event, check out the video below: 



If you feel this video has been useful to you, please Like and Subscribe!

As always, any comment on how to improve the video or content would be grealy appreciated! 

Update Log: 
Used Sony Vegas to piece together the video as some of the summoning were taken using Airshou on iPhone.
Based on my girlfriend's opinion, I have change the overlay of the video. Inspired by Till Eternity Gaming. 
Based on comments from previous videos, I have been using only music with no singing. 

Oh NO! You again? Mr JamesWond, sorry but you are really spreading info as if you could determinate the actual summon rates with some really small sample again? Oh well, you know what?you cant!

I don't believe I'm seeing it again and, do you know that we would need a community effort for something like at least 1000 different Summons for the data to be more of less reliable?

Next time you post these kind of results can you please say that you are posting biased results? Please! Thanks!

We are glad that Valianite is working as intended We do hope the selectors will make most, if not everyone who rolls multiple 10x, more satisfied than before.

Of course, we will continue to look into more ways to improve the overall system

Hi Ryozanki, 

I was just wondering if the rates for summoning a 5* potential or even the New Event Hero has indeed gone down as compared to during the Mr.Snowman Showdown? If so, is this due to the addition of 4* Heroes such as Seraphim into the pool or an intended decrease due to the inclusion of Valianite?

 Thanks for reading and commenting!

Nothing was adjusted, numbers remained the same throughout

Hi everyone, today I am bringing you a continuation of my quest to find out the percentage chance of summoning the New Event Hero. For this event, I did one summon daily(as can be seen from the quest completion sign after every summon. Here are the statistics:

Gems: 5600
Potential 5*: 11
New Event Hero(Nadia): 1
Increased Summon Rate Other Hero(Vincent): 2
Valiantite: 34

Mr.Snowman Showdown
Gems: 5600
Potential 5*: 13
New Event Hero(Ronan): 3
Increased Summon Rate Other Hero(Teresa): 3

As can be seen from above, it seems that with the introduction of Valianite, the chance of summoning the New Event Hero decreased from 2.1% to 0.7% 

That being said, with 34 Valianite, I could easily have exchanged for 2 more event heroes for the price of 15 Valianite each. At this point, I would like to thank XII Braves for implementing the Valianite feature. It has a very fluid function and I look forward to it's permanent stay here within the game.  

PS: you can still increase the rates as that would please the populace and perhaps retain the current player base

To F2P players out there, you might want to save up for 3200 gems and only spend them when you feel you need a particular Hero. This is because you might not get what you want from the summons themselves but at least you still can exchange the Hero for 15 Valiantite. 

Again, please note that the statistics above might not be accurate due to the small sample size of 140 draws. I will continue my quest for the rates in the next event. 

If you have not view my 5600 Gem Summoning for the last event, check out the video below: 



If you feel this video has been useful to you, please Like and Subscribe!

As always, any comment on how to improve the video or content would be grealy appreciated! 

Update Log: 
Used Sony Vegas to piece together the video as some of the summoning were taken using Airshou on iPhone.
Based on my girlfriend's opinion, I have change the overlay of the video. Inspired by Till Eternity Gaming. 
Based on comments from previous videos, I have been using only music with no singing. 

Oh NO! You again? Mr JamesWond, sorry but you are really spreading info as if you could determinate the actual summon rates with some really small sample again? Oh well, you know what?you cant!

I don't believe I'm seeing it again and, do you know that we would need a community effort for something like at least 1000 different Summons for the data to be more of less reliable?

Next time you post these kind of results can you please say that you are posting biased results? Please! Thanks!

Dear Mr.Mysterious, I am merely just conducting a study. 

As you can see from Ryozanki's post above, the numbers did not change despite the event changes. So if you say it requires 1000 different summons, then so be it. I will get there eventually. I am already at 280 recorded summons from my 2 videos already. 

I did include the line "Again, please note that the statistics above might not be accurate due to the small sample size of 140 draws. I will continue my quest for the rates in the next event." Next time before you post a comment, please read the post and watch the video first, because I did reiterate that point of biasness in the video as well. Please! Thanks!

We are glad that Valianite is working as intended We do hope the selectors will make most, if not everyone who rolls multiple 10x, more satisfied than before.

Of course, we will continue to look into more ways to improve the overall system

Hi Ryozanki, 

I was just wondering if the rates for summoning a 5* potential or even the New Event Hero has indeed gone down as compared to during the Mr.Snowman Showdown? If so, is this due to the addition of 4* Heroes such as Seraphim into the pool or an intended decrease due to the inclusion of Valianite?

 Thanks for reading and commenting!

Nothing was adjusted, numbers remained the same throughout

Thanks for confirming! 

Hi everyone, today I am bringing you a continuation of my quest to find out the percentage chance of summoning the New Event Hero. For this event, I did one summon daily(as can be seen from the quest completion sign after every summon. Here are the statistics:

Gems: 5600
Potential 5*: 11
New Event Hero(Nadia): 1
Increased Summon Rate Other Hero(Vincent): 2
Valiantite: 34

Mr.Snowman Showdown
Gems: 5600
Potential 5*: 13
New Event Hero(Ronan): 3
Increased Summon Rate Other Hero(Teresa): 3

As can be seen from above, it seems that with the introduction of Valianite, the chance of summoning the New Event Hero decreased from 2.1% to 0.7% 

That being said, with 34 Valianite, I could easily have exchanged for 2 more event heroes for the price of 15 Valianite each. At this point, I would like to thank XII Braves for implementing the Valianite feature. It has a very fluid function and I look forward to it's permanent stay here within the game.  

PS: you can still increase the rates as that would please the populace and perhaps retain the current player base

To F2P players out there, you might want to save up for 3200 gems and only spend them when you feel you need a particular Hero. This is because you might not get what you want from the summons themselves but at least you still can exchange the Hero for 15 Valiantite. 

Again, please note that the statistics above might not be accurate due to the small sample size of 140 draws. I will continue my quest for the rates in the next event. 

If you have not view my 5600 Gem Summoning for the last event, check out the video below: 



If you feel this video has been useful to you, please Like and Subscribe!

As always, any comment on how to improve the video or content would be grealy appreciated! 

Update Log: 
Used Sony Vegas to piece together the video as some of the summoning were taken using Airshou on iPhone.
Based on my girlfriend's opinion, I have change the overlay of the video. Inspired by Till Eternity Gaming. 
Based on comments from previous videos, I have been using only music with no singing. 

Oh NO! You again? Mr JamesWond, sorry but you are really spreading info as if you could determinate the actual summon rates with some really small sample again? Oh well, you know what?you cant!

I don't believe I'm seeing it again and, do you know that we would need a community effort for something like at least 1000 different Summons for the data to be more of less reliable?

Next time you post these kind of results can you please say that you are posting biased results? Please! Thanks!

Dear Mr.Mysterious, I am merely just conducting a study. 

As you can see from Ryozanki's post above, the numbers did not change despite the event changes. So if you say it requires 1000 different summons, then so be it. I will get there eventually. I am already at 280 recorded summons from my 2 videos already. 

I did include the line "Again, please note that the statistics above might not be accurate due to the small sample size of 140 draws. I will continue my quest for the rates in the next event." Next time before you post a comment, please read the post and watch the video first, because I did reiterate that point of biasness in the video as well. Please! Thanks!

Next time? next time you put a better title and not a click bait one. You are trying to call out something here, that is not good. not without concrete information, only in the end of the text you do tell that MAYBE you results could not be reliable, you need to put this information FIRST!

And again, summons from a single players will still be biased, and that's why I've said we need a community effort. Summon results from different events could be different too, but as Mr. Ryozanki said the rates didn't changed, well we still had a lot of new heroes added to the summon pool.

Thanks!