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Re: Curious Carnival of Horror Event Discussion

Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:28 am

Alright, Second day to the event. This is what i feel. (Purely my opinion)

The event is balanced, if you are a P2P, you "should" be able to get the 21 trials with some patience and luck. Of course, if you don't go in with a Strategy, you pretty much wasting your money.

So what is good for F2P? A member mentioned about using Seph from the ally hero to help, and I tried, (I am a F2P by the way) and it works me all the heroic without much difficulty, of course you need some 4*, esp tanker, but leave the job to Ally Seph and she will clear the quest for you, and up to 3 stars, no problem. (The middle lane need a no ally 2*, that one need a good team to break through) 
Neverthless, it shows that it is possible to break through as a F2P, you just need abit of luck and some ally hero help. For Legendary quest, you need a Seph on your own and another 1 from the ally hero, that should push you to complete at least the 15 trial quest.

If you are lucky enough and plan ahead to grow your seph before the event end, I believe 3 star on legendary is still possible, I haven't try because I still cannot get a pull on the event hero, and I only using daily pull (Ya, pure F2P)

So as a F2P, don't be sour that it is impossible to clear the quests, because it is not impossible, it is whether you want to plan ahead and patiently look for a Seph Ally to help. Then the rest of the time, just spam the normal quest. Please do not think that you can get the LARGEST amount of unrefined gem to get the things in the bazzar, those are for people that invested their money and time, not just time.

While you should focus on trying to get the 100% by using all the tools you have. I going to try to prove that I can beat 100%, so now i only waiting for the event hero to pull through, I reserving all the keys for her and going to spam the potions on her. (That is why there is a quest to complete other events, there is a reason, and if you run normal long enough, you have full gear 4* for her also)

In all, I think its still a balanced event. If you don't get it this time, don't be sour, you are a F2P.. Its free, what you expect? No hardwork and all the rewards?

Lastly, Can I ask those that have Seph, to put her into the ally group, for us to share??? Please Please... I need more of her.
My good man, if only more people think positively like you.  :(
 
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Re: Curious Carnival of Horror Event Discussion

Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:31 am

Alright, Second day to the event. This is what i feel. (Purely my opinion)

The event is balanced, if you are a P2P, you "should" be able to get the 21 trials with some patience and luck. Of course, if you don't go in with a Strategy, you pretty much wasting your money.

So what is good for F2P? A member mentioned about using Seph from the ally hero to help, and I tried, (I am a F2P by the way) and it works me all the heroic without much difficulty, of course you need some 4*, esp tanker, but leave the job to Ally Seph and she will clear the quest for you, and up to 3 stars, no problem. (The middle lane need a no ally 2*, that one need a good team to break through) 
Neverthless, it shows that it is possible to break through as a F2P, you just need abit of luck and some ally hero help. For Legendary quest, you need a Seph on your own and another 1 from the ally hero, that should push you to complete at least the 15 trial quest.

If you are lucky enough and plan ahead to grow your seph before the event end, I believe 3 star on legendary is still possible, I haven't try because I still cannot get a pull on the event hero, and I only using daily pull (Ya, pure F2P)

So as a F2P, don't be sour that it is impossible to clear the quests, because it is not impossible, it is whether you want to plan ahead and patiently look for a Seph Ally to help. Then the rest of the time, just spam the normal quest. Please do not think that you can get the LARGEST amount of unrefined gem to get the things in the bazzar, those are for people that invested their money and time, not just time.

While you should focus on trying to get the 100% by using all the tools you have. I going to try to prove that I can beat 100%, so now i only waiting for the event hero to pull through, I reserving all the keys for her and going to spam the potions on her. (That is why there is a quest to complete other events, there is a reason, and if you run normal long enough, you have full gear 4* for her also)

In all, I think its still a balanced event. If you don't get it this time, don't be sour, you are a F2P.. Its free, what you expect? No hardwork and all the rewards?

Lastly, Can I ask those that have Seph, to put her into the ally group, for us to share??? Please Please... I need more of her.
Good opinion, i am f2p also. its 10th days since i plat it. i think legendary mode is very challenging. i like it. i just don't like drop rate :). after play for 2 days i only get less than 200 unrefined gems. on my calculation, i will never get kahuna from bazar if drop rate only 2pcs/5 energy. the chance to get it is only from clear 100% quest. i have plan using 4 seraphina (3 + 1 merc). now i only have 2, i need 1 more seraphina. the problem is just lack of gems to pull :)

This is my code "vknxh4". feel free to add, i have seraphina as a merc
Ah.. So unfair, you got 2!! I didn't even got 1 yet. Gosh.. Well, looking at the rate you in, you should be able to complete legendary with some luck, my thinking is, putting some stun and slience in the team, let 2 seph tank themselve infront, with some potions, and i think it will pull through, dont use any skills in the chest, and spam the skills on the boss.
i got from 10x summon, no *5 potential hero, just got 2 seraphina and fodders. i dont play legendary now, just spam on lowest difficulty to clear 150x event quest. I will start playing it at 6th day event. now just fokus to clear all quest except "complete 15 & 21 event quest". i dont have any *5 hero. 1 more seraphina and let's complete 2 last quest. i need luck to get it
 
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Re: Curious Carnival of Horror Event Discussion

Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:49 am

Seriously, the ranting about the differnece between new players bla bla bla is getting annoying more and more,
i would expect that the ranting will never stop because everytime theres new event, these "new" player will
always rant and cry about how hard and how different they are with older and p2p,
Well, guess what,
the older player spend their time to reach that point and also that p2p spent to be that strong whatever
if the 'new' player who just played for 7-14 days has the same capacity with them,
then hey wont play bcs whats the point?!
If you're asking about fairness, that is what i think fair definition is.
What you're asking so that you can beat all the levels and has the same capacity with them is equality,
and just fyi
Nobody will play if its too easy,
 
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Re: Curious Carnival of Horror Event Discussion

Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:50 am

Alright, Second day to the event. This is what i feel. (Purely my opinion)

The event is balanced, if you are a P2P, you "should" be able to get the 21 trials with some patience and luck. Of course, if you don't go in with a Strategy, you pretty much wasting your money.

So what is good for F2P? A member mentioned about using Seph from the ally hero to help, and I tried, (I am a F2P by the way) and it works me all the heroic without much difficulty, of course you need some 4*, esp tanker, but leave the job to Ally Seph and she will clear the quest for you, and up to 3 stars, no problem. (The middle lane need a no ally 2*, that one need a good team to break through) 
Neverthless, it shows that it is possible to break through as a F2P, you just need abit of luck and some ally hero help. For Legendary quest, you need a Seph on your own and another 1 from the ally hero, that should push you to complete at least the 15 trial quest.

If you are lucky enough and plan ahead to grow your seph before the event end, I believe 3 star on legendary is still possible, I haven't try because I still cannot get a pull on the event hero, and I only using daily pull (Ya, pure F2P)

So as a F2P, don't be sour that it is impossible to clear the quests, because it is not impossible, it is whether you want to plan ahead and patiently look for a Seph Ally to help. Then the rest of the time, just spam the normal quest. Please do not think that you can get the LARGEST amount of unrefined gem to get the things in the bazzar, those are for people that invested their money and time, not just time.

While you should focus on trying to get the 100% by using all the tools you have. I going to try to prove that I can beat 100%, so now i only waiting for the event hero to pull through, I reserving all the keys for her and going to spam the potions on her. (That is why there is a quest to complete other events, there is a reason, and if you run normal long enough, you have full gear 4* for her also)

In all, I think its still a balanced event. If you don't get it this time, don't be sour, you are a F2P.. Its free, what you expect? No hardwork and all the rewards?

Lastly, Can I ask those that have Seph, to put her into the ally group, for us to share??? Please Please... I need more of her.
My good man, if only more people think positively like you.  :(
Thanks for the kind words.
In actual fact, I did thought that its impossible and unfair in the beginning, and when people start whinning, then it became a "fact". But the fact is, we didn't even try to find ways to beat the game, until someone mentioned a possibility, then I rethink my thinking and thought, why not? Maybe its possible.
The problem now is, because of previous events that the dev just changed to make everyone happy, it became a norm that proper whinning will make the dev do something for me. If the previously set event is set with a targets and goals, like this one, (you need this hero, you need the gear from this quest) Then it sets people on the path to get the gear and hero and eventually clear the event. 
So I will like to suggest to the dev that, there is a gem reward at the end of the event for everyone that participated in the event, depending on the percentage of complete, meaning those that nearly meet the 100% will have a better reward than those that only want to get the 75% or 50%. This will encourage the F2P to not anyhow spam the gems you have in the game.
Second suggestion is to guarantee an event hero pull by the 3rd pull, no matter whether is it mass or single (you can single pull 3 hero to get her, but you still need more heroes to sacrifice to her) or you can pull 3 x 10s and you guarantee to have her and also a good sacrifice pool (Not forget 5*). For single pulls, you won't go very far with just getting her, but with 3 x 10, you can.  
 
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Re: Curious Carnival of Horror Event Discussion

Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:59 am

Alright, Second day to the event. This is what i feel. (Purely my opinion)

The event is balanced, if you are a P2P, you "should" be able to get the 21 trials with some patience and luck. Of course, if you don't go in with a Strategy, you pretty much wasting your money.

So what is good for F2P? A member mentioned about using Seph from the ally hero to help, and I tried, (I am a F2P by the way) and it works me all the heroic without much difficulty, of course you need some 4*, esp tanker, but leave the job to Ally Seph and she will clear the quest for you, and up to 3 stars, no problem. (The middle lane need a no ally 2*, that one need a good team to break through) 
Neverthless, it shows that it is possible to break through as a F2P, you just need abit of luck and some ally hero help. For Legendary quest, you need a Seph on your own and another 1 from the ally hero, that should push you to complete at least the 15 trial quest.

If you are lucky enough and plan ahead to grow your seph before the event end, I believe 3 star on legendary is still possible, I haven't try because I still cannot get a pull on the event hero, and I only using daily pull (Ya, pure F2P)

So as a F2P, don't be sour that it is impossible to clear the quests, because it is not impossible, it is whether you want to plan ahead and patiently look for a Seph Ally to help. Then the rest of the time, just spam the normal quest. Please do not think that you can get the LARGEST amount of unrefined gem to get the things in the bazzar, those are for people that invested their money and time, not just time.

While you should focus on trying to get the 100% by using all the tools you have. I going to try to prove that I can beat 100%, so now i only waiting for the event hero to pull through, I reserving all the keys for her and going to spam the potions on her. (That is why there is a quest to complete other events, there is a reason, and if you run normal long enough, you have full gear 4* for her also)

In all, I think its still a balanced event. If you don't get it this time, don't be sour, you are a F2P.. Its free, what you expect? No hardwork and all the rewards?

Lastly, Can I ask those that have Seph, to put her into the ally group, for us to share??? Please Please... I need more of her.
My good man, if only more people think positively like you.  :(
Thanks for the kind words.
In actual fact, I did thought that its impossible and unfair in the beginning, and when people start whinning, then it became a "fact". But the fact is, we didn't even try to find ways to beat the game, until someone mentioned a possibility, then I rethink my thinking and thought, why not? Maybe its possible.
The problem now is, because of previous events that the dev just changed to make everyone happy, it became a norm that proper whinning will make the dev do something for me. If the previously set event is set with a targets and goals, like this one, (you need this hero, you need the gear from this quest) Then it sets people on the path to get the gear and hero and eventually clear the event. 
So I will like to suggest to the dev that, there is a gem reward at the end of the event for everyone that participated in the event, depending on the percentage of complete, meaning those that nearly meet the 100% will have a better reward than those that only want to get the 75% or 50%. This will encourage the F2P to not anyhow spam the gems you have in the game.
Second suggestion is to guarantee an event hero pull by the 3rd pull, no matter whether is it mass or single (you can single pull 3 hero to get her, but you still need more heroes to sacrifice to her) or you can pull 3 x 10s and you guarantee to have her and also a good sacrifice pool (Not forget 5*). For single pulls, you won't go very far with just getting her, but with 3 x 10, you can.  
I agree with a guaranteed event hero.
For example in other game (sorry I mention other name again), Brave Frontier, they often give a guaranteed event hero as a bonus (it's an extra bonus, not included in the summon result) when player do 10x summons. The bonus unit is sent into player box.
This way, both F2P and P2P can get the event bonus character, as long as they met the requirement.

Well, for this game, no need to give them as a bonus. Just give us a guaranteed at least 1 event hero whenever we do a 10x summons, I'm more than happy.
Look, I got my 1st Seraphina in my 5th 10x summons. That's sucks... I could save a lot of gems if I got her in my very first 10x summons.
I was planning saving gems for Winter event, but now it's all used up. I guess RNG doesn't want me to save lots of gems.
 
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Re: Curious Carnival of Horror Event Discussion

Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:17 am

Alright, Second day to the event. This is what i feel. (Purely my opinion)

The event is balanced, if you are a P2P, you "should" be able to get the 21 trials with some patience and luck. Of course, if you don't go in with a Strategy, you pretty much wasting your money.

So what is good for F2P? A member mentioned about using Seph from the ally hero to help, and I tried, (I am a F2P by the way) and it works me all the heroic without much difficulty, of course you need some 4*, esp tanker, but leave the job to Ally Seph and she will clear the quest for you, and up to 3 stars, no problem. (The middle lane need a no ally 2*, that one need a good team to break through) 
Neverthless, it shows that it is possible to break through as a F2P, you just need abit of luck and some ally hero help. For Legendary quest, you need a Seph on your own and another 1 from the ally hero, that should push you to complete at least the 15 trial quest.

If you are lucky enough and plan ahead to grow your seph before the event end, I believe 3 star on legendary is still possible, I haven't try because I still cannot get a pull on the event hero, and I only using daily pull (Ya, pure F2P)

So as a F2P, don't be sour that it is impossible to clear the quests, because it is not impossible, it is whether you want to plan ahead and patiently look for a Seph Ally to help. Then the rest of the time, just spam the normal quest. Please do not think that you can get the LARGEST amount of unrefined gem to get the things in the bazzar, those are for people that invested their money and time, not just time.

While you should focus on trying to get the 100% by using all the tools you have. I going to try to prove that I can beat 100%, so now i only waiting for the event hero to pull through, I reserving all the keys for her and going to spam the potions on her. (That is why there is a quest to complete other events, there is a reason, and if you run normal long enough, you have full gear 4* for her also)

In all, I think its still a balanced event. If you don't get it this time, don't be sour, you are a F2P.. Its free, what you expect? No hardwork and all the rewards?

Lastly, Can I ask those that have Seph, to put her into the ally group, for us to share??? Please Please... I need more of her.
My good man, if only more people think positively like you.  :(
Thanks for the kind words.
In actual fact, I did thought that its impossible and unfair in the beginning, and when people start whinning, then it became a "fact". But the fact is, we didn't even try to find ways to beat the game, until someone mentioned a possibility, then I rethink my thinking and thought, why not? Maybe its possible.
The problem now is, because of previous events that the dev just changed to make everyone happy, it became a norm that proper whinning will make the dev do something for me. If the previously set event is set with a targets and goals, like this one, (you need this hero, you need the gear from this quest) Then it sets people on the path to get the gear and hero and eventually clear the event. 
So I will like to suggest to the dev that, there is a gem reward at the end of the event for everyone that participated in the event, depending on the percentage of complete, meaning those that nearly meet the 100% will have a better reward than those that only want to get the 75% or 50%. This will encourage the F2P to not anyhow spam the gems you have in the game.
Second suggestion is to guarantee an event hero pull by the 3rd pull, no matter whether is it mass or single (you can single pull 3 hero to get her, but you still need more heroes to sacrifice to her) or you can pull 3 x 10s and you guarantee to have her and also a good sacrifice pool (Not forget 5*). For single pulls, you won't go very far with just getting her, but with 3 x 10, you can.  
I'm more inclined to sympathize with people who cannot complete the event when it is near over, not when the event just started. Just like the previous arena wins issue, you never know until you try up till the very end.

I seem to recall Brave Frontier have that similar 'pull certain times get that hero', that was for that uhhhh, fire spartan warrior? I've forgotten the name as it was so long ago but it was one of the series with Poseidon, don't know if they still have it now. I think VF should definitely adopt that for event heroes like Seraphina. 

I don't think many realized this, but this event gave us more freedom to choose our rewards with the bazaar as compared to the first 2 events which only gave achievement rewards . However I think the amount of unrefined gems we get even in Legendary is harsh. 
 
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Re: Curious Carnival of Horror Event Discussion

Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:20 am

My good man, if only more people think positively like you.  :(
Thanks for the kind words.
In actual fact, I did thought that its impossible and unfair in the beginning, and when people start whinning, then it became a "fact". But the fact is, we didn't even try to find ways to beat the game, until someone mentioned a possibility, then I rethink my thinking and thought, why not? Maybe its possible.
The problem now is, because of previous events that the dev just changed to make everyone happy, it became a norm that proper whinning will make the dev do something for me. If the previously set event is set with a targets and goals, like this one, (you need this hero, you need the gear from this quest) Then it sets people on the path to get the gear and hero and eventually clear the event. 
So I will like to suggest to the dev that, there is a gem reward at the end of the event for everyone that participated in the event, depending on the percentage of complete, meaning those that nearly meet the 100% will have a better reward than those that only want to get the 75% or 50%. This will encourage the F2P to not anyhow spam the gems you have in the game.
Second suggestion is to guarantee an event hero pull by the 3rd pull, no matter whether is it mass or single (you can single pull 3 hero to get her, but you still need more heroes to sacrifice to her) or you can pull 3 x 10s and you guarantee to have her and also a good sacrifice pool (Not forget 5*). For single pulls, you won't go very far with just getting her, but with 3 x 10, you can.  
I agree with a guaranteed event hero.
For example in other game (sorry I mention other name again), Brave Frontier, they often give a guaranteed event hero as a bonus (it's an extra bonus, not included in the summon result) when player do 10x summons. The bonus unit is sent into player box.
This way, both F2P and P2P can get the event bonus character, as long as they met the requirement.

Well, for this game, no need to give them as a bonus. Just give us a guaranteed at least 1 event hero whenever we do a 10x summons, I'm more than happy.
Look, I got my 1st Seraphina in my 5th 10x summons. That's sucks... I could save a lot of gems if I got her in my very first 10x summons.
I was planning saving gems for Winter event, but now it's all used up. I guess RNG doesn't want me to save lots of gems.
I actually made a similar suggestion regarding bonus gem summon here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=910
But I'm not sure if it can be implemented in the near future, since there's stuff like limitations to be considered and the devs are quite busy with everything
 
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Re: Curious Carnival of Horror Event Discussion

Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:21 am

For anyone want a Seraphina friend, add my friend code (I will need to clean some friend slot first): wvxhhq
I will use her as my main for the rest of the event.

Last night I got my 1st Seraphina, and it's also a 4*. Kensei though, not Rogue. Her stats is still not that high yet, but she will be stronger each day since I will build her into +2 ASAP.
I have *4+2 Rogue Seraphina if anyone also interest. Still not manage to clear legendary though.. maybe need to re-arrange my team since I just play since official launch

My friend code is: vcgk4m :)
 
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Re: Curious Carnival of Horror Event Discussion

Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:11 pm

My good man, if only more people think positively like you.  :(
Thanks for the kind words.
In actual fact, I did thought that its impossible and unfair in the beginning, and when people start whinning, then it became a "fact". But the fact is, we didn't even try to find ways to beat the game, until someone mentioned a possibility, then I rethink my thinking and thought, why not? Maybe its possible.
The problem now is, because of previous events that the dev just changed to make everyone happy, it became a norm that proper whinning will make the dev do something for me. If the previously set event is set with a targets and goals, like this one, (you need this hero, you need the gear from this quest) Then it sets people on the path to get the gear and hero and eventually clear the event. 
So I will like to suggest to the dev that, there is a gem reward at the end of the event for everyone that participated in the event, depending on the percentage of complete, meaning those that nearly meet the 100% will have a better reward than those that only want to get the 75% or 50%. This will encourage the F2P to not anyhow spam the gems you have in the game.
Second suggestion is to guarantee an event hero pull by the 3rd pull, no matter whether is it mass or single (you can single pull 3 hero to get her, but you still need more heroes to sacrifice to her) or you can pull 3 x 10s and you guarantee to have her and also a good sacrifice pool (Not forget 5*). For single pulls, you won't go very far with just getting her, but with 3 x 10, you can.  
I agree with a guaranteed event hero.
For example in other game (sorry I mention other name again), Brave Frontier, they often give a guaranteed event hero as a bonus (it's an extra bonus, not included in the summon result) when player do 10x summons. The bonus unit is sent into player box.
This way, both F2P and P2P can get the event bonus character, as long as they met the requirement.

Well, for this game, no need to give them as a bonus. Just give us a guaranteed at least 1 event hero whenever we do a 10x summons, I'm more than happy.
Look, I got my 1st Seraphina in my 5th 10x summons. That's sucks... I could save a lot of gems if I got her in my very first 10x summons.
I was planning saving gems for Winter event, but now it's all used up. I guess RNG doesn't want me to save lots of gems.
That would be really nice, however the guaranteed Seraphina doesn't seem to fit in a lot of people's strategy just because she's max 4*. 400 gems is still a lot. And people might actually not want it, especially if you look at things long term. I do think having a separate 'event summon' would be more appropriate so both the devs (in terms of receiving revenue) and all kinds of player base would be happy. Because you have a choice of wanting something immediately useful but likely irrelevant afterwards, or not wanting to participate at all.
 
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Re: Curious Carnival of Horror Event Discussion

Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:39 pm

Yesterday, did the 400 gem pull
Got my event hero.

Luckily i have 20 rogue key for my kai, but then i say fk it and spam it on the event hero. Did most of the trial and finish my energy, this morning, i woke up and manage to clear every single trial.

I think this event is really very fun, challenging and you actually need to think and plan.

And all those 3* 4* equipment drop, so shiok