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imo, this new arena seems balance + fun.

This is why "PVP where a team beats all opponents wins" should be a thing, not this "I have two or three cancer, now time to dominate the flags, *4 turns later* ack! swapped by opposing cancer."

This is why "PVP where a team beats all opponents wins" should be a thing, not this "I have two or three cancer, now time to dominate the flags, *4 turns later* ack! swapped by opposing cancer."

"PVP where a team beats all opponents wins"
If this happens, tank need a major buff, if not probably not much use for them.
 Then its back to magic + DPS race.

This is why "PVP where a team beats all opponents wins" should be a thing, not this "I have two or three cancer, now time to dominate the flags, *4 turns later* ack! swapped by opposing cancer."

If that happens you guys will be like: "OMG, mystic is cancer, they killed my melee with their skill even before I can reach them." "OMG, champion is cancer, one crit and they cleared my front row, nerf pls." "OMG, silence is cancer, how can I win when I can't cast skills but my opponent is able to." "OMG, they summoned a wall and got reduced damage? Damm cancerous skills"  With all these cancer you guys are seeing, it's amazing that you guys are still alive. 
Find solutions to problems man or at least work around it instead of just complaining about it. 

This is why "PVP where a team beats all opponents wins" should be a thing, not this "I have two or three cancer, now time to dominate the flags, *4 turns later* ack! swapped by opposing cancer."

If that happens you guys will be like: "OMG, mystic is cancer, they killed my melee with their skill even before I can reach them." "OMG, champion is cancer, one crit and they cleared my front row, nerf pls." "OMG, silence is cancer, how can I win when I can't cast skills but my opponent is able to." "OMG, they summoned a wall and got reduced damage? Damm cancerous skills"  With all these cancer you guys are seeing, it's amazing that you guys are still alive. 
Find solutions to problems man or at least work around it instead of just complaining about it. 

This.
If the win condition is only by elimination, then there would be less potential strategies and skills that could work since all it takes is to just MLB all your units and give them the best equipment, and stacking ranged classes and mystics.
I personally would prefer KotH instead of Elimination simply because it opens up more strategies where you could adopt to achieve the win condition and not braindead I spend cash and faceroll other units. 
Like what many other players mentioned here, this is just a non-issue that is being exaggerated by OP, as GraySea mentioned as well, there are indeed a plethora of counters that have been mentioned and advised to the OP with regards to the meme 3 tank strategies that he is having trouble withbut it is OP who insists that his strategy should be used, that it is better, smart and that the meme strategy should be nerfed simply because he has to switch out his units.

This is why "PVP where a team beats all opponents wins" should be a thing, not this "I have two or three cancer, now time to dominate the flags, *4 turns later* ack! swapped by opposing cancer."

If that happens you guys will be like: "OMG, mystic is cancer, they killed my melee with their skill even before I can reach them." "OMG, champion is cancer, one crit and they cleared my front row, nerf pls." "OMG, silence is cancer, how can I win when I can't cast skills but my opponent is able to." "OMG, they summoned a wall and got reduced damage? Damm cancerous skills"  With all these cancer you guys are seeing, it's amazing that you guys are still alive. 
Find solutions to problems man or at least work around it instead of just complaining about it. 

I'm not complaining, I'm saying what I'm thinking and I think the current PVP is only designed for Guardians. Some people have decent guardians, some people have bad ones and some people don't. Same goes with swap heroes, pull, and knock back. NOT ALL PEOPLE CAN GET THE SAME THING YOU HAVE. What's the point of strategy and tactics if you dont't even have a good card to play with. So what? "Swap those masochists with ninjas", "knockback those M with grand rangers"? Nope, some people dont have one. As for those "OMG, blah blah blah", I think it's better that way. There's always that rule in the game "I have the thing you want and you have the thing I want" so basically, you can counter some of their units and they can counter some of yours (once again, strategy and tactics). I know luck dominates the game (trigger auras, stuns, sleep, delay skill, misery go round). So if there's an OverwhelmingHeroAndI'mComplainingBecauseOfthatPowered, I trust the devs can do something about that (like they did on mystics). I know I'm being stupid but I'm only saying what I'm thinking, I respect everyone's opinion because I know everyone trying to make the game better and better.

If some of your "aura" "triggers", please don't kill me T.T

This is why "PVP where a team beats all opponents wins" should be a thing, not this "I have two or three cancer, now time to dominate the flags, *4 turns later* ack! swapped by opposing cancer."

If that happens you guys will be like: "OMG, mystic is cancer, they killed my melee with their skill even before I can reach them." "OMG, champion is cancer, one crit and they cleared my front row, nerf pls." "OMG, silence is cancer, how can I win when I can't cast skills but my opponent is able to." "OMG, they summoned a wall and got reduced damage? Damm cancerous skills"  With all these cancer you guys are seeing, it's amazing that you guys are still alive. 
Find solutions to problems man or at least work around it instead of just complaining about it. 

I'm not complaining, I'm saying what I'm thinking and I think the current PVP is only designed for Guardians. Some people have decent guardians, some people have bad ones and some people don't.  Same goes with swap heroes, pull, and knock back. NOT ALL PEOPLE CAN GET THE SAME THING YOU HAVE. What's the point of strategy and tactics if you dont't even have a good card to play with. So what? "Swap those masochists with ninjas", "knockback those M with grand rangers"? Nope, some people dont have one. As for those "OMG, blah blah blah", I think it's better that way. There's always that rule in the game "I have the thing you want and you have the thing I want" so basically, you can counter some of their units and they can counter some of yours (once again, strategy and tactics). I know luck dominates the game (trigger auras, stuns, sleep, delay skill, misery go round). So if there's an OverwhelmingHeroAndI'mComplainingBecauseOfthatPowered, I trust the devs can do something about that (like they did on mystics). I know I'm being stupid but I'm only saying what I'm thinking, I respect everyone's opinion because I know everyone trying to make the game better and better.

If some of your "aura" "triggers", please don't kill me T.T

I agree with you.
Sadly many people that have tank teams will always say "omg tank are normal, if you don't take counter pick it's your fault"
And people that has already counterpicks and has a easy win on this current meta will say the same of above.. 

Anyway like i said previously, give half of the point from taking placement on middle points and you will give more turns to people that don't have counterpicks, they will be more able to kill this walls of meat having more turns for handle them.

Edit : nevermind, already know the answer

Dont forget that the main objective as displayed in the arena tutorial is to capture the tile and hold it to earn more points than your opponent. If they dont make the guardians do it then which class is more suitable?

Everyone: you should try fight fire with water
You: Fight fire with sand, sand so OP

I mean sand is great and all, they make nice beaches, not really nice for fighting fire imo

+1 
But seriously OP, basically what you're saying is "Please nerf tank cause my strategy doesn't work, and no I refuse to change my strategy, you change instead"

Nailed it.
@topic
I'm more scared of those damn Berserkers lol. For some reason, there are Berserkers that are very tanky.