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Re: Last Patch almost broke all our 4* set Equips

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:07 pm

Jenoss screaming for attention and demanding stuff again, accusing devs of making changes during beta.

What else is new?
Nothing new ;)

Just i was thinking that all the feedback we was giving to them on the forum was going somewhere.
We are still 3 weeks from the release ofcourse, and i still hope they will make many changes that us, the communy, ask them , but i'm a little sceptical and disapponted when i see patches that go really far from the feedback of the people that are testing the game.

I made many topics on the last few months giving feedback and sending more than 25 tickets of bugs/problems, i'm doing my part on helping them on this game, just i don't think that moves like that one made today, will give a nice pow of this company to the players.

And white knights don't help a game to shine, criticism help it.
If you think about it, breaking the 4-star sets into 2 will help players get the 2-set bonus quicker, thus becoming stronger, without having to collect a full 4 set.

Of course, you are just thinking about yourself.

White knight I am not, but the game is still in freaking beta, I would thrash the hell out of the devs if they do this after launch. 
 
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Re: Last Patch almost broke all our 4* set Equips

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:15 pm

Jenoss screaming for attention and demanding stuff again, accusing devs of making changes during beta.

What else is new?
Nothing new ;)

Just i was thinking that all the feedback we was giving to them on the forum was going somewhere.
We are still 3 weeks from the release ofcourse, and i still hope they will make many changes that us, the communy, ask them , but i'm a little sceptical and disapponted when i see patches that go really far from the feedback of the people that are testing the game.

I made many topics on the last few months giving feedback and sending more than 25 tickets of bugs/problems, i'm doing my part on helping them on this game, just i don't think that moves like that one made today, will give a nice pow of this company to the players.

And white knights don't help a game to shine, criticism help it.
If you think about it, breaking the 4-star sets into 2 will help players get the 2-set bonus quicker, thus becoming stronger, without having to collect a full 4 set.

Of course, you are just thinking about yourself.

White knight I am not, but the game is still in freaking beta, I would thrash the hell out of the devs if they do this after launch. 
I would strongly agree with you if they just made 2/2 2/2 from a 4/4.
But this is not the case.

They completly changes some items, making them thief class from archer class.
Like the 4/4 hat and chest of archer class that became a 4/4 set of a THIEF class (not a 2/2).
Or the accessory of the 4/4 mage set, that exchange with a 2/2 mage class item, changing in exchange the fourth item of the previous set.
They didn't notice that Tank 4/4 set and mage 4/4 could be farmed early on of leggendary maps, and making all the 4/4 sets now obtanaible at the end of the leggendary last map, for my view this changes don't help the communty but make the 4/4 sets just more hard to reach and being obteinable.

I would agree with everyone, saying that "This is just a beta", but in my opinion devs just mess it out everything opening the shop during the beta, and messing (now) around the changes with the vips rewards.
 
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Re: Last Patch almost broke all our 4* set Equips

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:23 pm

Well, before the update, you can farm 4* Mystic staff in map 4-3, but this staff isn't belong to set that we can farm. And now, this staff and Cursed rosary is a set, The bunny set now has Orange Cloak, which we can farm in map 22-3, instead of Cursed rosary. I think it doesn't change too much. The only thing makes me confused is a 4* set of champion, which we can receive from treasure box (sorry, i forgot the name), it's completely changed, the equipments of this set isn't belong to any set now
 
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Re: Last Patch almost broke all our 4* set Equips

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:23 pm

Nothing new ;)

Just i was thinking that all the feedback we was giving to them on the forum was going somewhere.
We are still 3 weeks from the release ofcourse, and i still hope they will make many changes that us, the communy, ask them , but i'm a little sceptical and disapponted when i see patches that go really far from the feedback of the people that are testing the game.

I made many topics on the last few months giving feedback and sending more than 25 tickets of bugs/problems, i'm doing my part on helping them on this game, just i don't think that moves like that one made today, will give a nice pow of this company to the players.

And white knights don't help a game to shine, criticism help it.
If you think about it, breaking the 4-star sets into 2 will help players get the 2-set bonus quicker, thus becoming stronger, without having to collect a full 4 set.

Of course, you are just thinking about yourself.

White knight I am not, but the game is still in freaking beta, I would thrash the hell out of the devs if they do this after launch. 
I would strongly agree with you if they just made 2/2 2/2 from a 4/4.
But this is not the case.

They completly changes some items, making them thief class from archer class.
Like the 4/4 hat and chest of archer class that became a 4/4 set of a THIEF class (not a 2/2).
Or the accessory of the 4/4 mage set, that exchange with a 2/2 mage class item, changing in exchange the fourth item of the previous set.
They didn't notice that Tank 4/4 set and mage 4/4 could be farmed early on of leggendary maps, and making all the 4/4 sets now obtanaible at the end of the leggendary last map, for my view this changes don't help the communty but make the 4/4 sets just more hard to reach and being obteinable.

I would agree with everyone, saying that "This is just a beta", but in my opinion devs just mess it out everything opening the shop during the beta, and messing (now) around the changes with the vips rewards.
Is the change so bad no one is able to farm back the full and appropriate sets? 

I still don't understand the beef you have with the shop being available. First time playing a mobile game where certain regions get first access?
 
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Re: Last Patch almost broke all our 4* set Equips

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:24 pm

The only thing makes me confused is a 4* set of champion, which we can receive from treasure box (sorry, i forgot the name), it's completely changed, the equipments of this set isn't belong to any set now
Any screenshots? I don't run a champion, thinking of lvling my Vincent though.
 
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Re: Last Patch almost broke all our 4* set Equips

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:28 pm

If you think about it, breaking the 4-star sets into 2 will help players get the 2-set bonus quicker, thus becoming stronger, without having to collect a full 4 set.

Of course, you are just thinking about yourself.

White knight I am not, but the game is still in freaking beta, I would thrash the hell out of the devs if they do this after launch. 
I would strongly agree with you if they just made 2/2 2/2 from a 4/4.
But this is not the case.

They completly changes some items, making them thief class from archer class.
Like the 4/4 hat and chest of archer class that became a 4/4 set of a THIEF class (not a 2/2).
Or the accessory of the 4/4 mage set, that exchange with a 2/2 mage class item, changing in exchange the fourth item of the previous set.
They didn't notice that Tank 4/4 set and mage 4/4 could be farmed early on of leggendary maps, and making all the 4/4 sets now obtanaible at the end of the leggendary last map, for my view this changes don't help the communty but make the 4/4 sets just more hard to reach and being obteinable.

I would agree with everyone, saying that "This is just a beta", but in my opinion devs just mess it out everything opening the shop during the beta, and messing (now) around the changes with the vips rewards.
Is the change so bad no one is able to farm back the full and appropriate sets? 

I still don't understand the beef you have with the shop being available. First time playing a mobile game where certain regions get first access?
No, it's just the first game i play where you can spent money using the shop on a BETA.
That sound so ridiculous to me that i can still can't belive it.. And i really hope that devs will not have problems because of it in future..

A tons of country don't allow this kind of practices, but i don't know all the laws from korean to china (i just know japan and eu ones)
 
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Re: Last Patch almost broke all our 4* set Equips

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:30 pm

I would strongly agree with you if they just made 2/2 2/2 from a 4/4.
But this is not the case.

They completly changes some items, making them thief class from archer class.
Like the 4/4 hat and chest of archer class that became a 4/4 set of a THIEF class (not a 2/2).
Or the accessory of the 4/4 mage set, that exchange with a 2/2 mage class item, changing in exchange the fourth item of the previous set.
They didn't notice that Tank 4/4 set and mage 4/4 could be farmed early on of leggendary maps, and making all the 4/4 sets now obtanaible at the end of the leggendary last map, for my view this changes don't help the communty but make the 4/4 sets just more hard to reach and being obteinable.

I would agree with everyone, saying that "This is just a beta", but in my opinion devs just mess it out everything opening the shop during the beta, and messing (now) around the changes with the vips rewards.
Is the change so bad no one is able to farm back the full and appropriate sets? 

I still don't understand the beef you have with the shop being available. First time playing a mobile game where certain regions get first access?
No, it's just the first game i play where you can spent money using the shop on a BETA.
That sound so ridiculous to me that i can still can't belive it.. And i really hope that devs will not have problems because of it in future..

A tons of country don't allow this kind of practices, but i don't know all the laws from korean to china (i just know japan and eu ones)
The beta here is basically a soft launch.
 
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Re: Last Patch almost broke all our 4* set Equips

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:31 pm

The only thing makes me confused is a 4* set of champion, which we can receive from treasure box (sorry, i forgot the name), it's completely changed, the equipments of this set isn't belong to any set now
Any screenshots? I don't run a champion, thinking of lvling my Vincent though.
Can't make a screen but i think he refeer to the highborn set:
Made from runeblade
HB helm
HB plate 
and blue cloak
 
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Re: Last Patch almost broke all our 4* set Equips

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:33 pm

Jenoss screaming for attention and demanding stuff again, accusing devs of making changes during beta.

What else is new?
Nothing new ;)

Just i was thinking that all the feedback we was giving to them on the forum was going somewhere.
We are still 3 weeks from the release ofcourse, and i still hope they will make many changes that us, the communy, ask them , but i'm a little sceptical and disapponted when i see patches that go really far from the feedback of the people that are testing the game.

I made many topics on the last few months giving feedback and sending more than 25 tickets of bugs/problems, i'm doing my part on helping them on this game, just i don't think that moves like that one made today, will give a nice pow of this company to the players.

And white knights don't help a game to shine, criticism help it.
If you think about it, breaking the 4-star sets into 2 will help players get the 2-set bonus quicker, thus becoming stronger, without having to collect a full 4 set.

Of course, you are just thinking about yourself.

White knight I am not, but the game is still in freaking beta, I would thrash the hell out of the devs if they do this after launch
Is the change so bad no one is able to farm back the full and appropriate sets? 

I still don't understand the beef you have with the shop being available. First time playing a mobile game where certain regions get first access?
No, it's just the first game i play where you can spent money using the shop on a BETA.
That sound so ridiculous to me that i can still can't belive it.. And i really hope that devs will not have problems because of it in future..

A tons of country don't allow this kind of practices, but i don't know all the laws from korean to china (i just know japan and eu ones)
The beta here is basically a soft launch.
Why are you not mad then?
Anyway if it was a soft launch it was a more big problem, change items that people buyed is illegal on most of the countries in the world.
 
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Re: Last Patch almost broke all our 4* set Equips

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:35 pm

Nothing new ;)

Just i was thinking that all the feedback we was giving to them on the forum was going somewhere.
We are still 3 weeks from the release ofcourse, and i still hope they will make many changes that us, the communy, ask them , but i'm a little sceptical and disapponted when i see patches that go really far from the feedback of the people that are testing the game.

I made many topics on the last few months giving feedback and sending more than 25 tickets of bugs/problems, i'm doing my part on helping them on this game, just i don't think that moves like that one made today, will give a nice pow of this company to the players.

And white knights don't help a game to shine, criticism help it.
If you think about it, breaking the 4-star sets into 2 will help players get the 2-set bonus quicker, thus becoming stronger, without having to collect a full 4 set.

Of course, you are just thinking about yourself.

White knight I am not, but the game is still in freaking beta, I would thrash the hell out of the devs if they do this after launch

No, it's just the first game i play where you can spent money using the shop on a BETA.
That sound so ridiculous to me that i can still can't belive it.. And i really hope that devs will not have problems because of it in future..

A tons of country don't allow this kind of practices, but i don't know all the laws from korean to china (i just know japan and eu ones)
The beta here is basically a soft launch.
Why are you not mad then?
Anyway if it was a soft launch it was a more big problem, change items that people buyed is illegal on most of the countries in the world.
I have played in soft launch where bigger changes were made. WAY BIGGER.

Those items, like a mod said, are bonuses, not what you buy. Dev could easily pull away the whole prestige system and no one gets anything. Are you going to be more satisfied with that?