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Re: Facts of Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:04 am

The most recent game I have played is Nexon's HIT. Same structure as VF with item gacha and VIP system. They also require really good WIFI connection for the "live" PVP. 
Nexon games are comparable with Chinese games, they almost always used the same system, only few named Korean games use different system, like Crusader Quest that I can only think off lol.

Try some Japanese game & you will notice the difference,
I recently read about Granblue Fantasy cheating their players in gacha. Got onto news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOWFvlBPnk4

You mean they are better? :o
You can't just base off 1 game alone (the same cannot be said for Chinese games because they are all using the same system)......tbh granblue isn't a true mobile game, it's a browser game to begin with and got ported into mobile & the game doesn't even run smooth for mobile plus horrible data usage that I heard off....
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Re: Facts of Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:06 am

Nexon games are comparable with Chinese games, they almost always used the same system, only few named Korean games use different system, like Crusader Quest that I can only think off lol.

Try some Japanese game & you will notice the difference,
I recently read about Granblue Fantasy cheating their players in gacha. Got onto news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOWFvlBPnk4

You mean they are better? :o
You can't just base off 1 game alone......tbh granblue isn't a true mobile game, it's a browser game to begin with and got ported into mobile & the game doesn't even run smooth for mobile plus horrible data usage that I heard off....
Every game I brought out, you have something to counter with :( Seems to me you are just angry at not being able to be the strongest in a few days :(
 
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Re: Facts of Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:10 am

I recently read about Granblue Fantasy cheating their players in gacha. Got onto news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOWFvlBPnk4

You mean they are better? :o
You can't just base off 1 game alone......tbh granblue isn't a true mobile game, it's a browser game to begin with and got ported into mobile & the game doesn't even run smooth for mobile plus horrible data usage that I heard off....
Every game I brought out, you have something to counter with :( Seems to me you are just angry at not being able to be the strongest in a few days :(
Check your sources then haha, you seems to not read properly, I did not said anything about being strongest, it's about the mechanics and how the monetization works especially in the way Chinese game does.
 
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Re: Facts of Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:15 am

You can't just base off 1 game alone......tbh granblue isn't a true mobile game, it's a browser game to begin with and got ported into mobile & the game doesn't even run smooth for mobile plus horrible data usage that I heard off....
Every game I brought out, you have something to counter with :( Seems to me you are just angry at not being able to be the strongest in a few days :(
Check your sources then haha, you seems to not read properly, I did not said anything about being strongest, it's about the mechanics and how the monetization works especially in the way Chinese game does.
As a frequent gamer (yeah uni rocks), as long as there is no blocked access to game content, I feel it is a good game. 

For the PVP, I could really see low level players owning high level ones with the right moves. It is something like... chess?

Other games go straight out for just pure power rating, even for Korean and Japanese mobile games. And gacha currently in VF is cheaper as well.

I hope they don't increase price though...
 
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Re: Facts of Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:21 am

Every game I brought out, you have something to counter with :( Seems to me you are just angry at not being able to be the strongest in a few days :(
Check your sources then haha, you seems to not read properly, I did not said anything about being strongest, it's about the mechanics and how the monetization works especially in the way Chinese game does.
As a frequent gamer (yeah uni rocks), as long as there is no blocked access to game content, I feel it is a good game. 

For the PVP, I could really see low level players owning high level ones with the right moves. It is something like... chess?

Other games go straight out for just pure power rating, even for Korean and Japanese mobile games. And gacha currently in VF is cheaper as well.

I hope they don't increase price though...
I haven't reach level 20 to play arena but I doubt the arena pvp system is in real-time, I assume it's like every other mobile game, it's AI controlled on your opponent end, so you can't compare it to sometime like chess, in fact no company does real-time pvp in mobile games unless it's moba/trading card games because it's more expensive to fund and manage. 

Sure you can beat a high level AI-controlled units if they are off same rarity, would you be so sure if they are all 5* with 5* set bonus gears, I doubt so but I also doubt there are that many whales at this point of time, so everything is fine for now haha.
 
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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:31 am

Hi all, 

Instead of looking into the crystal ball and guess about the future of Valiant Force, I would suggest everyone to head to the Feedback section and provide actual worries and accompanying solutions which will help the game improve.

There is no point claiming that "this monetization system will be the downfall of the game in the future" sort of doomsday scenario. 

What the team could do now is the improve on everything. 

Thank you! 

FYI: The team is going through all feedback and having a meeting later for the upcoming improvements.
 
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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:38 am

Hi all, 

Instead of looking into the crystal ball and guess about the future of Valiant Force, I would suggest everyone to head to the Feedback section and provide actual worries and accompanying solutions which will help the game improve.

There is no point claiming that "this monetization system will be the downfall of the game in the future" sort of doomsday scenario. 

What the team could do now is the improve on everything. 

Thank you! 

FYI: The team is going through all feedback and having a meeting later for the upcoming improvements.
It will not be a doomfall, it works for SEA/China region I pretty sure it will be success as well hence why XII Brave has Funplus as the publisher, but I doubt it will be if it went global because the guys in the West & Japan isn't necessary fond of that system but fear not because the primary audience for Valiant Force is the SEA.   

I'm pretty sure you guys can improve on the minor mechanics and system that makes things easier but without a doubt removal of the whole base mechanics & make it similar to what modern gacha system like the Japanese did is out of the question.

I hope you guys look at this post too but I doubt it impacts much, I didn't post on feedback because this post isn't a feedback it's just how the mechanics works in the game.
 
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Re: Facts of Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:43 am

I recently read about Granblue Fantasy cheating their players in gacha. Got onto news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOWFvlBPnk4

You mean they are better? :o
You can't just base off 1 game alone......tbh granblue isn't a true mobile game, it's a browser game to begin with and got ported into mobile & the game doesn't even run smooth for mobile plus horrible data usage that I heard off....
Every game I brought out, you have something to counter with :( Seems to me you are just angry at not being able to be the strongest in a few days :(
Hanzo just to let you know we are not f2p players. In fact we spend quite alot on mobile games. So we are not scared of being left at the bottom. We just want a reasonable fair gap between paying and non-paying in order to have a nice active community where everyone is happy and playing more instead of being blocked by paywall.
 
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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:51 am

I like the idea of monthly package, as I always subscribe to it for games I like as a form of support towards the game devs. However, VIP system is extremely bad. Whales will get exponential growth and makin f2p way behind.
 
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Re: Facts of Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:05 pm

You can't just base off 1 game alone......tbh granblue isn't a true mobile game, it's a browser game to begin with and got ported into mobile & the game doesn't even run smooth for mobile plus horrible data usage that I heard off....
Every game I brought out, you have something to counter with :( Seems to me you are just angry at not being able to be the strongest in a few days :(
Hanzo just to let you know we are not f2p players. In fact we spend quite alot on mobile games. So we are not scared of being left at the bottom. We just want a reasonable fair gap between paying and non-paying in order to have a nice active community where everyone is happy and playing more instead of being blocked by paywall.
Is there already a paywall or are you forecasting one? I have yet to spend a single cent though, and everything is at an ok-pace since I have other mobile games I am playing as well. Slow and steady, waiting for the official launch crowd to gel with them.
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