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Korean mobile games are gated heavily for this "sudden increase in monster toughness". Seven Knights and HIT are 2 of the more recent ones I play, and the community is flourishing. Have yet to meet such "paywall" in VF though.

I heard good things about 7 Knights probably 1 of the friendly Korean game from netmarble not too sure about HIT, as for Nexon I can only remember that Mabinogi Duels is a pretty good mobile game from my experience and has quite a good system but too grindy competitive for me haha.

The team referenced Seven Knights, one of the many games we researched on, for the monetization system.

We are still curious to know what "paywall" you are referring to. We have not made any content, hero, items, or anything else exclusive to those with Prestige level. 

Do enlighten us.

Thank you.

This is the 2nd time, I did not state any "paywall" related to this game, the one that said paywall is Meowtard and I think what he meant was he did not wish to be block by paywall which doesn't refer that this game has paywall.

His quote:
Meowtard:

You can't just base off 1 game alone......tbh granblue isn't a true mobile game, it's a browser game to begin with and got ported into mobile & the game doesn't even run smooth for mobile plus horrible data usage that I heard off....

Every game I brought out, you have something to counter with Seems to me you are just angry at not being able to be the strongest in a few days

Hanzo just to let you know we are not f2p players. In fact we spend quite alot on mobile games. So we are not scared of being left at the bottom. We just want a reasonable fair gap between paying and non-paying in order to have a nice active community where everyone is happy and playing more instead of being blocked by paywall.

Edited thread title as all content in the first post is presumed facts, not actual facts.

I heard good things about 7 Knights probably 1 of the friendly Korean game from netmarble not too sure about HIT, as for Nexon I can only remember that Mabinogi Duels is a pretty good mobile game from my experience and has quite a good system but too grindy competitive for me haha.

The team referenced Seven Knights, one of the many games we researched on, for the monetization system.

We are still curious to know what "paywall" you are referring to. We have not made any content, hero, items, or anything else exclusive to those with Prestige level. 

Do enlighten us.

Thank you.

This is the 2nd time, I did not state any "paywall" related to this game, the one that said paywall is Meowtard and I think what he meant was he did not wish to be block by paywall which doesn't refer that this game has paywall.

His quote:
Meowtard:

You can't just base off 1 game alone......tbh granblue isn't a true mobile game, it's a browser game to begin with and got ported into mobile & the game doesn't even run smooth for mobile plus horrible data usage that I heard off....

Every game I brought out, you have something to counter with Seems to me you are just angry at not being able to be the strongest in a few days

Hanzo just to let you know we are not f2p players. In fact we spend quite alot on mobile games. So we are not scared of being left at the bottom. We just want a reasonable fair gap between paying and non-paying in order to have a nice active community where everyone is happy and playing more instead of being blocked by paywall.

You mentioned about our Prestige/ VIP system as well being similar to China games.

From what we researched, China mobile games lock certain features and players can only access them at various VIP levels.

Valiant Force sees the prestige system as a bonus to those who have supported us and allow us to continue building new content. No content is being blocked at all.

Once again, in which way are we similar to China mobile games as well?

The team referenced Seven Knights, one of the many games we researched on, for the monetization system.

We are still curious to know what "paywall" you are referring to. We have not made any content, hero, items, or anything else exclusive to those with Prestige level. 

Do enlighten us.

Thank you.

This is the 2nd time, I did not state any "paywall" related to this game, the one that said paywall is Meowtard and I think what he meant was he did not wish to be block by paywall which doesn't refer that this game has paywall.

His quote:
Meowtard:

Every game I brought out, you have something to counter with Seems to me you are just angry at not being able to be the strongest in a few days

Hanzo just to let you know we are not f2p players. In fact we spend quite alot on mobile games. So we are not scared of being left at the bottom. We just want a reasonable fair gap between paying and non-paying in order to have a nice active community where everyone is happy and playing more instead of being blocked by paywall.

You mentioned about our Prestige/ VIP system as well being similar to China games.

From what we researched, China mobile games lock certain features and players can only access them at various VIP levels.

Valiant Force sees the prestige system as a bonus to those who have supported us and allow us to continue building new content. No content is being blocked at all.

Once again, in which way are we similar to China mobile games as well?

You mention that about Prestige (VIP) System that it doesn't limit content that's good news, I did state all the similarities compared to Chinese games on my 1st post...

I understand the point your trying to make with this post heatz your basically saying Funplus has been known to practice shady p2w practices in their games and we should be prepared for that to happen with this game. Like they saying goes "history repeats itself."

It would be wiser to judge based on game content rather than past record.

FunPlus, our global partner, currently only has 2 English mobile games if I am not wrong. 

So far, FunPlus has been nothing but helpful in the whole development process, which means all features are not influenced by them, but by other games and player habits the team researched on.

I haven't ran into any p2w content so far so I have no complaints but I have learned from past mistakes to never spend money on games before seeing how the game handles it's f2p players.

This is the 2nd time, I did not state any "paywall" related to this game, the one that said paywall is Meowtard and I think what he meant was he did not wish to be block by paywall which doesn't refer that this game has paywall.

His quote:
Meowtard:

Hanzo just to let you know we are not f2p players. In fact we spend quite alot on mobile games. So we are not scared of being left at the bottom. We just want a reasonable fair gap between paying and non-paying in order to have a nice active community where everyone is happy and playing more instead of being blocked by paywall.

You mentioned about our Prestige/ VIP system as well being similar to China games.

From what we researched, China mobile games lock certain features and players can only access them at various VIP levels.

Valiant Force sees the prestige system as a bonus to those who have supported us and allow us to continue building new content. No content is being blocked at all.

Once again, in which way are we similar to China mobile games as well?

You mention that about Prestige (VIP) System that it doesn't limit content that's good news, I did state all the similarities compared to Chinese games on my 1st post...

It sounds like you are just bashing without stating the differences between the system in VF and other games with such a system.

The team would appreciate if you give suggestions instead on how to improve on freebies etc.

I do agree with the VIP or prestige system being different from China mobile games as claimed though.

Scanned through the various prestige levels, no exclusive shop or content, just purely free or bonus items.

You mentioned about our Prestige/ VIP system as well being similar to China games.

From what we researched, China mobile games lock certain features and players can only access them at various VIP levels.

Valiant Force sees the prestige system as a bonus to those who have supported us and allow us to continue building new content. No content is being blocked at all.

Once again, in which way are we similar to China mobile games as well?

You mention that about Prestige (VIP) System that it doesn't limit content that's good news, I did state all the similarities compared to Chinese games on my 1st post...

It sounds like you are just bashing without stating the differences between the system in VF and other games with such a system.

The team would appreciate if you give suggestions instead on how to improve on freebies etc.

What did I bash at? I'm just stating the fact that the mechanics and monetization system are same as Chinese mobile games which is a "fact", sure these "mechanics & monetization" can be improve but the base foundation is there, everybody can see it in the first impression.  

First impression of a typical vivid mobile gamers gives that "Oh it has VIP system" so and so may like it as well as so and so may hate it due to the fact these system is known for the "shard mechanics" which VF doesn't have, the fact that it works (profiting) in SEA/China means that it works so there's no reason to changed it unless it doesn't.

You mention that about Prestige (VIP) System that it doesn't limit content that's good news, I did state all the similarities compared to Chinese games on my 1st post...

It sounds like you are just bashing without stating the differences between the system in VF and other games with such a system.

The team would appreciate if you give suggestions instead on how to improve on freebies etc.

What did I bash at? I'm just stating the fact that the mechanics and monetization system are same as Chinese mobile games which is a "fact", sure these "mechanics & monetization" can be improve but the base foundation is there, everybody can see it in the first impression.  

First impression of a typical vivid mobile gamers gives that "Oh it has VIP system" so and so may like it as well as so and so may hate it due to the fact these system is known for the "shard mechanics" which VF doesn't have, the fact that it works (profiting) in SEA/China means that it works so there's no reason to changed it unless it doesn't.

I think the admin means you missed out the fact to mention that VF system is different from others, as no content is locked behind VIP levels, and not totally the same as Chinese game. Hence, only stating the "negative" and not pointing out the difference made is being seen as bashing.

I played Dota Arena when it first came out, damn, special shops and exclusive items unlocked at different VIP levels, totally out of reach from the F2P players like me.

It sounds like you are just bashing without stating the differences between the system in VF and other games with such a system.

The team would appreciate if you give suggestions instead on how to improve on freebies etc.

What did I bash at? I'm just stating the fact that the mechanics and monetization system are same as Chinese mobile games which is a "fact", sure these "mechanics & monetization" can be improve but the base foundation is there, everybody can see it in the first impression.  

First impression of a typical vivid mobile gamers gives that "Oh it has VIP system" so and so may like it as well as so and so may hate it due to the fact these system is known for the "shard mechanics" which VF doesn't have, the fact that it works (profiting) in SEA/China means that it works so there's no reason to changed it unless it doesn't.

I think the admin means you missed out the fact to mention that VF system is different from others, as no content is locked behind VIP levels, and not totally the same as Chinese game. Hence, only stating the "negative" and not pointing out the difference made is being seen as bashing.

I played Dota Arena when it first came out, damn, special shops and exclusive items unlocked at different VIP levels, totally out of reach from the F2P players like me.

That's true, also releasing game in these region (SEA/China) doesn't have major bad feedback on the base system and mechanics because people there are used to it, giving feedback as to change the entire backbone is not gonna help the company since it would jeopardize the community yet again and delay on launch...

Idk about you guys but from my limited mobile gaming experience, system like Mabinogi Duels, Crusader Quest, FFBE, FF Mobius (Japan), Terra Battle, Valhait Rising (Japan), Shironeko Tennis (Japan), Dragon Project (Japan).