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Re: CB Testers get significant head start?

Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:40 pm

You are here to complain about a game which you have totally no interest in and have not pre-reigstered? :o
You are still not reading my words at all.
I never said i'm not interested in this game, i have a huge interest, but not like "user wise" most of the people are.
I don't care if i play it now, tomorrow or in 3 years.
I just care to give advice to devs of this game, because i care it to be successful even if i don't care gatcha games and i don't like them.
I will problably even not play it in the way you do.

But this is not about me or you, it's not matter to continue to talk about it.

i give my advice to the people of this forum that still defend the policy of the "Headstart" or defending their lucky closed beta access.
Some people will understand it, and don't care it.
Some people will not understand, and some will not read it at all :D

Or maybe someone will even give some effort on giving quality criticize to these devs.
I just hope so.
The dev team said on Facebook they are not changing the system of invites. Right or wrong, it is ultimately their decision.

Well, you can all be unhappy and sulk or quit the game. But I am not one of them, just waiting.
Referring to xianne post, i'm really happy to notice that my post give some kind of ispiration on thinking more about the whole situation ;)

Right or wrong, it is ultimately their decision, and we, the userbase can make THEM change their decisions when they are wrong.Because they make profit because of the userbase.

Because the game is for the userbase.
Because they need to hear the userbase.

Otherwise, they will disappear like many other studios with great idea, but small effort on hearing what people have to say.
It's really easy to fail, and is really hard to make many people happy, but it's their work..
 
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Re: CB Testers get significant head start?

Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:57 pm

You are still not reading my words at all.
I never said i'm not interested in this game, i have a huge interest, but not like "user wise" most of the people are.
I don't care if i play it now, tomorrow or in 3 years.
I just care to give advice to devs of this game, because i care it to be successful even if i don't care gatcha games and i don't like them.
I will problably even not play it in the way you do.

But this is not about me or you, it's not matter to continue to talk about it.

i give my advice to the people of this forum that still defend the policy of the "Headstart" or defending their lucky closed beta access.
Some people will understand it, and don't care it.
Some people will not understand, and some will not read it at all :D

Or maybe someone will even give some effort on giving quality criticize to these devs.
I just hope so.
The dev team said on Facebook they are not changing the system of invites. Right or wrong, it is ultimately their decision.

Well, you can all be unhappy and sulk or quit the game. But I am not one of them, just waiting.
Referring to xianne post, i'm really happy to notice that my post give some kind of ispiration on thinking more about the whole situation ;)

Right or wrong, it is ultimately their decision, and we, the userbase can make THEM change their decisions when they are wrong.Because they make profit because of the userbase.

Because the game is for the userbase.
Because they need to hear the userbase.

Otherwise, they will disappear like many other studios with great idea, but small effort on hearing what people have to say.
It's really easy to fail, and is really hard to make many people happy, but it's their work..
Trying to make EVERYONE happy is impossible. Tell me about one game where the whole community is happy about all decisions.
 
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Re: CB Testers get significant head start?

Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:59 pm

The dev team said on Facebook they are not changing the system of invites. Right or wrong, it is ultimately their decision.

Well, you can all be unhappy and sulk or quit the game. But I am not one of them, just waiting.
Referring to xianne post, i'm really happy to notice that my post give some kind of ispiration on thinking more about the whole situation ;)

Right or wrong, it is ultimately their decision, and we, the userbase can make THEM change their decisions when they are wrong.Because they make profit because of the userbase.

Because the game is for the userbase.
Because they need to hear the userbase.

Otherwise, they will disappear like many other studios with great idea, but small effort on hearing what people have to say.
It's really easy to fail, and is really hard to make many people happy, but it's their work..
Trying to make EVERYONE happy is impossible. Tell me about one game where the whole community is happy about all decisions.
It's the third time you don't read my messages.
Can you please read them before reply?

Thanks
 
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Re: CB Testers get significant head start?

Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:03 pm

Referring to xianne post, i'm really happy to notice that my post give some kind of ispiration on thinking more about the whole situation ;)

Right or wrong, it is ultimately their decision, and we, the userbase can make THEM change their decisions when they are wrong.Because they make profit because of the userbase.

Because the game is for the userbase.
Because they need to hear the userbase.

Otherwise, they will disappear like many other studios with great idea, but small effort on hearing what people have to say.
It's really easy to fail, and is really hard to make many people happy, but it's their work..
Trying to make EVERYONE happy is impossible. Tell me about one game where the whole community is happy about all decisions.
It's the third time you don't read my messages.
Can you please read them before reply?

Thanks
I read, and all I see is you not being happy with the headstart. 
 
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Re: CB Testers get significant head start?

Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:20 pm

Trying to make EVERYONE happy is impossible. Tell me about one game where the whole community is happy about all decisions.
It's the third time you don't read my messages.
Can you please read them before reply?

Thanks
I read, and all I see is you not being happy with the headstart. 
Yeah and you still modify all my replies, because you change my words, make me look like a fool.

I'm not happy on how they are moving on in these steps before the release, i don't like how they not talking to us, to the community, and when they do, they say only lies.
The SNS pages are not correctly speaking about what's going on and what we have to expect in the next days/months/years, many comments on them are deleting to hide the discontent of the people..
They are just putting salt on the wounds, and making the fire bigger.
And this is just the start.. Oh no, it's not even the start.


I really think that some pr should show up and make a step back, making the right decisions.
It's not about The closed beta.
It's the overall managment of the release of the game that lack of many things.
and if it will be shortly release, in this kind of mood and managment, it will be a fail.
I call it now and here.

Like i said, again and again and again, i'm here for help.
To give advices to the devs, to make my voice come to them, for help them.

Because i care this game to success.
 
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Re: CB Testers get significant head start?

Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:31 pm

It's the third time you don't read my messages.
Can you please read them before reply?

Thanks
I read, and all I see is you not being happy with the headstart. 
Yeah and you still modify all my replies, because you change my words, make me look like a fool.

I'm not happy on how they are moving on in these steps before the release, i don't like how they not talking to us, to the community, and when they do, they say only lies.
The SNS pages are not correctly speaking about what's going on and what we have to expect in the next days/months/years, many comments on them are deleting to hide the discontent of the people..
They are just putting salt on the wounds, and making the fire bigger.
And this is just the start.. Oh no, it's not even the start.


I really think that some pr should show up and make a step back, making the right decisions.
It's not about The closed beta.
It's the overall managment of the release of the game that lack of many things.
and if it will be shortly release, in this kind of mood and managment, it will be a fail.
I call it now and here.

Like i said, again and again and again, i'm here for help.
To give advices to the devs, to make my voice come to them, for help them.

Because i care this game to success.
You are the only one who is complaining non-stop. They answer when I PM them on Facebook. They are here in the forums as well.

Are you feeling lonely because someone neglected you?

How about you tell everyone which other game has such active admins as well. I have played so many games, and I am just glad they are around chatting and debating.
 
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Re: CB Testers get significant head start?

Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:38 pm

It's the third time you don't read my messages.
Can you please read them before reply?

Thanks
I read, and all I see is you not being happy with the headstart. 
Yeah and you still modify all my replies, because you change my words, make me look like a fool.

I'm not happy on how they are moving on in these steps before the release, i don't like how they not talking to us, to the community, and when they do, they say only lies.
The SNS pages are not correctly speaking about what's going on and what we have to expect in the next days/months/years, many comments on them are deleting to hide the discontent of the people..
They are just putting salt on the wounds, and making the fire bigger.
And this is just the start.. Oh no, it's not even the start.


I really think that some pr should show up and make a step back, making the right decisions.
It's not about The closed beta.
It's the overall managment of the release of the game that lack of many things.
and if it will be shortly release, in this kind of mood and managment, it will be a fail.
I call it now and here.

Like i said, again and again and again, i'm here for help.
To give advices to the devs, to make my voice come to them, for help them.

Because i care this game to success.
Could you tell us when did you contact us and what was it about?

And also, I am officially the PR person in the forums for the game. I have been actively posting and replying, and that is noted in my post count.

Until now, I have yet to see you post anything constructive, and on the verge of trolling.

There is a limit as to how much toxicity can be appreciated before the ban hammer comes down.

Take care and be warned.
 
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Re: CB Testers get significant head start?

Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:42 pm

I read, and all I see is you not being happy with the headstart. 
Yeah and you still modify all my replies, because you change my words, make me look like a fool.

I'm not happy on how they are moving on in these steps before the release, i don't like how they not talking to us, to the community, and when they do, they say only lies.
The SNS pages are not correctly speaking about what's going on and what we have to expect in the next days/months/years, many comments on them are deleting to hide the discontent of the people..
They are just putting salt on the wounds, and making the fire bigger.
And this is just the start.. Oh no, it's not even the start.


I really think that some pr should show up and make a step back, making the right decisions.
It's not about The closed beta.
It's the overall managment of the release of the game that lack of many things.
and if it will be shortly release, in this kind of mood and managment, it will be a fail.
I call it now and here.

Like i said, again and again and again, i'm here for help.
To give advices to the devs, to make my voice come to them, for help them.

Because i care this game to success.
You are the only one who is complaining non-stop. They answer when I PM them on Facebook. They are here in the forums as well.

Are you feeling lonely because someone neglected you?

How about you tell everyone which other game has such active admins as well. I have played so many games, and I am just glad they are around chatting and debating.
If i'm the only one that complain you should see facebook or buy a pair of glasses.
Almost all mobile games have 1-2 active pr, depending on how much they are popular, on SNS repling to almost all post, and not deleting the angry ones (deleting = 1 less possible account).
They are not here for chatting and neither debating. that's the problem.
They just throw some info when they want, randomly.

I'm trying to make a constructive discourse here, if you are here fiercely and blindly defend these devs action, please don't reply to my posts and just ignore me.
I will just do the same,  because nothing can be out from you in this topic other that blidly replies, i'm sorry about that.

Anyway have a nice day a P34C3!
 
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Re: CB Testers get significant head start?

Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:47 pm

Yeah and you still modify all my replies, because you change my words, make me look like a fool.

I'm not happy on how they are moving on in these steps before the release, i don't like how they not talking to us, to the community, and when they do, they say only lies.
The SNS pages are not correctly speaking about what's going on and what we have to expect in the next days/months/years, many comments on them are deleting to hide the discontent of the people..
They are just putting salt on the wounds, and making the fire bigger.
And this is just the start.. Oh no, it's not even the start.


I really think that some pr should show up and make a step back, making the right decisions.
It's not about The closed beta.
It's the overall managment of the release of the game that lack of many things.
and if it will be shortly release, in this kind of mood and managment, it will be a fail.
I call it now and here.

Like i said, again and again and again, i'm here for help.
To give advices to the devs, to make my voice come to them, for help them.

Because i care this game to success.
You are the only one who is complaining non-stop. They answer when I PM them on Facebook. They are here in the forums as well.

Are you feeling lonely because someone neglected you?

How about you tell everyone which other game has such active admins as well. I have played so many games, and I am just glad they are around chatting and debating.
If i'm the only one that complain you should see facebook or buy a pair of glasses.
Almost all mobile games have 1-2 active pr, depending on how much they are popular, on SNS repling to almost all post, and not deleting the angry ones (deleting = 1 less possible account).
They are not here for chatting and neither debating. that's the problem.
They just throw some info when they want, randomly.

I'm trying to make a constructive discourse here, if you are here fiercely and blindly defend these devs action, please don't reply to my posts and just ignore me.
I will just do the same,  because nothing can be out from you in this topic other that blidly replies, i'm sorry about that.

Anyway have a nice day a P34C3!
We understand the community not being happy with our decision on Closed Beta, and we will compensate that by having an awesome launch version.

As explained by my colleagues, there is no change in the Closed Beta plan. The team will not be answering and appeasing each and every user who are unable to get into Closed Beta.

We are now in the process of obtaining feedback to make Valiant Force into a better game, and have already highlighted some game issues internally to fix.

If your idea of making everyone happy is simply by allowing everyone into the game without us testing for a few weeks, I am personally glad you are not in the gaming industry.

Thanks!
 
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Re: CB Testers get significant head start?

Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:52 pm

I read, and all I see is you not being happy with the headstart. 
Yeah and you still modify all my replies, because you change my words, make me look like a fool.

I'm not happy on how they are moving on in these steps before the release, i don't like how they not talking to us, to the community, and when they do, they say only lies.
The SNS pages are not correctly speaking about what's going on and what we have to expect in the next days/months/years, many comments on them are deleting to hide the discontent of the people..
They are just putting salt on the wounds, and making the fire bigger.
And this is just the start.. Oh no, it's not even the start.


I really think that some pr should show up and make a step back, making the right decisions.
It's not about The closed beta.
It's the overall managment of the release of the game that lack of many things.
and if it will be shortly release, in this kind of mood and managment, it will be a fail.
I call it now and here.

Like i said, again and again and again, i'm here for help.
To give advices to the devs, to make my voice come to them, for help them.

Because i care this game to success.
Could you tell us when did you contact us and what was it about?

And also, I am officially the PR person in the forums for the game. I have been actively posting and replying, and that is noted in my post count.

Until now, I have yet to see you post anything constructive, and on the verge of trolling.

There is a limit as to how much toxicity can be appreciated before the ban hammer comes down.

Take care and be warned.
I'm aware that there is a Mod in these forum, and i'm not here for troll or any other reason other than just look the progress of the game and give tips and suggestions on the forum of the game, i can't understand how this could be seen like a bad purpose, and if i give to the people working on this game this idea i'm sorry about that.

I give my many point of view about how this closed beta is being managed, and how it's going for the worst.
I don't see any toxicity out from saing this, i just want to give my contribute, even if probably you don't need it, just because you have a lot of feedbacks to read about already.

It would be nice to see your reply about this argument here, how will you threat the differences between the early adopters and the late ones?
How can people could easly get this gap?
In the sns Pr say explicity that it would be easy, but people from the forum and sns already said that is really not like that, thanks to all the mechanics of the gatcha games.

People are asking if the same offerts that Today are in the game, they will be on the release too
If the special hero will be here too in the release..
When the closed will finish and if there will be an open beta, and how much for the release..

There are many many people asking things in the sns page that are ignored, and some even with comments deleted..
I just wanted to point it out to you, or the pr or the devs (if they read in here)

If you feel this is just a trolling post (or even the other ones are) i can easly go out from the community and wish you the best luck for the release of your game.
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