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Right, lets' not argue more on this and do something MORE practical.

1) Arclaine, how about you post your heroes list, equipment list, and let the forum help in forming a possible team to deal with tanks?
2) After that, YOU try out the suggested team build, and then if it doesn't work, record a match and we'll see what you have possibly done wrong, or maybe its just the opponent.
3) Then, try again. Repeat 2 and 3 until win, ok?

Notes:
Due to whales and early CBT players having possibly 5*+15 full equipment and possibly +15 runes, in addition to maybe mlb, nobody can guarantee you 100% wins, because some stacks stacking to still too great to overcome. And if you think that all free players can win against whales, its not the case here.

I have 5* +15 equipments on my frontliners, some are 6*
suggested team build? I have never seen a real suggestion regarding team build on this thread, but I've seen some suggested heroes and tactics tho.


funny thing I just realized I posted my hero inventory, I've seen only like 1-2 person actually replies with recommendation regarding team building with the hero I have. I sure didnt ask for any help or advise, but people seem to be angry about me countering their silly arguments about "counters"

One other note.

Zerk this, Zerk that, Zerk this. If ya'll havent realized by now, I have a level 32 zerk on my inventory. standard 7.5k atk.

my dragoon is reaching 10k atk shortly. and it is still not enough to chunk down tanks. without crit I can do like 5k max to a level 30-34 BK. Not even half of their HP. Regularly. I dont know how that BS works. But I spit out truth.

There is no smoke without fire
The main reason people all use guardian is bcuz it's too easy to win just by capture
I don't talk about the whales in the top
even they have really good experience but how many of them don't switch to their real squad before enter the arena?
I don't talk about knock back and stuff
How the hell can I knock back some one when I keep pull out healer and mystic?, rune magus???, how about my gold income??? My story progress???
The cost is expensive just for a squad to fight on arena but there is many things you need to do
Guardians is the main reason I don't bother fight arena, and with this event they become annoying as hell, i keep killing them one by one and destroy them all by my mystic but i lost just because the guardian still standing in their flag and do nothing but skip it's turn

Guys please tell me why i can't see any synergy between each aura in this formation.

Samurai Shizu good position to be in trigger formation. (the main unit in the team) - shizu was connected with cybella but even if shizu attack, her aura will not trigger

Dragoon aura stun chance is 1x30% chance (not in trigger coverage aside from shizu aura, therefore chances of multiple trigger is low assuming this unit is one of his main dps)

Berserker aura increase dmg when trigger but only on shizu and and SW because this aura only trigger when attack.

Cybella Gunslinger aura coverage only on shizu only (assuming that's a hera for higher chance of trigger, her base attack should be quite low.)
(only Shizu is in the aura coverage, therefore there aren't any trigger synergy because "samurai shizu aura will not trigger when she attacks")

Teresa Spirit Walker - no idea why she's in this formation, atk & def buff? (connected to cybella but she aren't a dps unit - wasted on cybella GS aura)

Assuming all his geared is maxed out, do you think this would work?
Based on my analysis, this is a pure brute damage formation. minimum trigger synergy and aura not fully utilize.
No Offense, i had to reply because you need to understand this.. pure brute force will only happens if you're a player like sojubeer with fully developed units.
If you're not as hardcore as him, try to build a team that can fully utilize each units.
From this formation, i don't know is this a trigger or brute force formation.



I hate to do this, but you typed "I sure didnt ask for any help or advise, but people seem to be angry about me countering their silly arguments about "counters""
People aren't angry, they gave advise because they care. But you're ignoring it and being self-centered, kept assuming "no this will not work" "the problem is this"
In the first place, do read your post. don't you think you're very pissed and aggressive based only how many cancerous you've typed? people explained but you refused everything, eventually people gets tired and gave up. when you typed " I can assure all these people use the cancer v.1 team aka double tanker + 3 filler squad. get outta here." it clearly shows that "i don't care, if you're not here to talk shit about guardian. gtfo". therefore people will eventually left because clearly this aren't a discussion thread, this is a toxic breeding thread.

Mods, please lock this thread, there's no real discussion going on and this kind of toxicity can't be good for the forums. 

As many pointed out, there are various ways to counter the tank "meta". 

Since there is no constructive conversation ongoing and the thread starter is not seeking advise, this has led to a really long argument about a really simple topic - How to beat the tanks.

Thread is being closed, but feel free to head towards to Combat Guide section to talk about PVP.

Thanks!