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I am on the fence about event exclusive units which only top players for the event can get from the Event Ladder. 

Where? Which units?

Correct me if I'm wrong, I think AileCiel is talking about events *exclusive* units like Lulu or Aeria which players have to perform certain quests in order to obtain the characters. While the difficulty has definitely drop for those who are F2P when it was almost impossible last time to clear Heroic or Legendary a certain number of times, i think the possible problems that AileCiel is worried about is about the new players, whether they are really able to perform such quests even though the difficulty has been lowered. 
Seeing how the new Horde Mode event for Halloween will be starting prior to the Global Launch by a few days, many new players will be focusing on building their parties. 
"Players will be introduced to new undead monsters, along with the powerful Skeleton King Maleos, a powerful 5-star monster which will wreck havoc, especially in Legendary mode. Watch out for his devastating attacks! Rumors claim he is a potent addition to any squad..."
I think seeing this has led AileCiel thinking that there's no way a new player could fight the skeleton king much less try the Legendary mode for the reward which only the veteran players can achieved.

P.S. Noticed that I put *exclusive* is because I know the term exclusive in this context is not beta exclusive but time exclusive, meaning it "might" released after Beta which I cannot guarantee because I'm not the developer. Don't point your sword at me. I don't know anything.

I am on the fence about event exclusive units which only top players for the event can get from the Event Ladder. We all know ''top'' players are those who spend the most, with the random few f2p players with ultra luck. Its quite worrisome that there might be possibilities that there are options for powerful units to be given exclusively and the rich get richer, poor get poorer scenario  begins, especially when there is already a VIP level system.

There are no heroes or unit which only top event players get. 

Where was this mentioned? Perhaps the wording was wrong.

From this:

The new Event Ladder will now give players a better look at how they are faring in the Halloween Event. Do note that this ladder will not be available for all festive events. The top players can expect fabulous prizes, including the awesome 5 star Skeleton King card!

And:

Players will be introduced to new undead monsters, along with the powerful Skeleton King Maleos, a powerful 5-star monster which will wreck havoc, especially in Legendary mode. Watch out for his devastating attacks! Rumors claim he is a potent addition to any squad...

From past experiences, event tier ladders have prizes based on what rank players could achieve from say getting the most event etc item or beating the boss/stage with ever increasing difficulty the most times. Not sure if that's what its supposed to mean or its something else entirely, in which case I stand corrected.

that is very common but eventually a +15 5* weapon will still outclass a +15 4* weapon. Usually the break even point at somewhere at +6/7 of a higher tier weapon.

Yes..eventually but look at a f2p perspective..to get to a 5* +15 will already consume tons of gold alone. That just 1, make it 6 piece for one hero. Make it for 5 hero full. That will take ages. This is just equipment, there still hero upgrade, runes n training that also consumes alot of gold.

Like i mentioned, retain the bonus that we get from +15 on previous level tier. If not, its just the same like how it is now.

Let say u have a 4* +15 with really good bonus stat and u rank up a tier to 5* +0 but the bonus is gone. Isnt that the same as getting a plain 5* equipment. Those bonus that gives en edge to compete with p2p for a f2p. They invest alot in it but to get the same and loosing more. P2p too can get the same benefit of it or just get a plain 5* fast and invest the gold in other things.

I bet the equipments that will be implemented on these features are the single equipment and maybe the 2 piece sets equiment. No way the gonna do it for the premium 4 piece set equiment. So who can have 4 piece set equipment, most of the p2p. Who can have 2 piece set equiment, everybody.

So without that bonus, goodluck on competting with the whales.

If the stats bonus remain when upgrading from 4*+15 to 5*, nobody will go the 5* route from weapon smith or drawing from gacha anymore.

Yes..for most players will do that but do u see what bonus does a 5* 4 piece set gives?? Do u see how big the point bonus it gives with each upgrades? ( on 1* to 4* equipments)
Theres always pros n con. Let say u start from below, say 1*, how long n how many gold does it need to get to 5* ? U use alot of got to do that, some might go for it, Some might not. Another is aim straight for the 4* equipment, which we can get on legendary runs. Which is cheaper in upgrade cost compare to the previous way i mention, Still with those 4* +15,the bonus from those 5* set alone already better, not including the +15 upgrades of those sets.

So if the bonus from previous upgrades are not there. Its just the same as what we have now, f2p going to work more harder just to get it but at the same time they lost alot more in the process just to get the same as what we have now.

To say fairness that a f2p can compete with a p2p is delusional in end game. P2p will always wins on any turns. If the bonus are there, at least some committed f2p can be on the same level as a p2p. Now thats fairness.

Failure is just a step to success. Either vf wants a long committed players or just a money sucker. I dont know. This is just my opinion. Hope that vf dont dig their own graves. Im still waiting to see how the games goes after launch. Looking forward to it.

I am on the fence about event exclusive units which only top players for the event can get from the Event Ladder. We all know ''top'' players are those who spend the most, with the random few f2p players with ultra luck. Its quite worrisome that there might be possibilities that there are options for powerful units to be given exclusively and the rich get richer, poor get poorer scenario  begins, especially when there is already a VIP level system.

There are no heroes or unit which only top event players get. 

Where was this mentioned? Perhaps the wording was wrong.

From this:

The new Event Ladder will now give players a better look at how they are faring in the Halloween Event. Do note that this ladder will not be available for all festive events. The top players can expect fabulous prizes, including the awesome 5 star Skeleton King card!

And:

Players will be introduced to new undead monsters, along with the powerful Skeleton King Maleos, a powerful 5-star monster which will wreck havoc, especially in Legendary mode. Watch out for his devastating attacks! Rumors claim he is a potent addition to any squad...

From past experiences, event tier ladders have prizes based on what rank players could achieve from say getting the most event etc item or beating the boss/stage with ever increasing difficulty the most times. Not sure if that's what its supposed to mean or its something else entirely, in which case I stand corrected.

All players will have ways to get the card as well. No units in the game now are exclusive, other than Leandra from pre-register.

We would appreciate if the community do not come to conclusions based on rumor mongering.

Do await the Launch FAQ this coming week for details as well.

It is quit amazing to see all the complaints even with the patch still not out. Man, you guys should give some credits to the dev team for coming up with all these content for launch.

From what I heard, they are apparently staying over in the office over the weekends to get things ready.

Ok, I'm a bit confused. What I know is that there will be new servers for different regions. What happens to my current characters? Do they get moved to the new server as well or do they stay in Everglades and I have to start from scratch in the new server? I don't really mind either way as long as I can get my gems back if ever I have to start from scratch in the new server. If not, oh well I'll just have to climb my way back up. I'd rather start from scratch rather than play in a dead server 

As for Vigilante, you're the one being unprofessional. It was announced way back that there will be no reset unless there are major bugs. There have been multiple topics related to reset and release issues so you should have at least asked. I seriously doubt you're a game planner at all seeing that you didn't even read the details before you downloaded the game and paid for gems. If you really were a game planner then you should have noticed it and asked about it before, not days away before release.

Just like all the game do
Your acc stay at sea sever
Or you continue play it
Or you download the client support your region and start a new one

Thank you. Do we have any links or sources that I can read? So you're saying that Everglades will be the SEA server?

Just wait for the Launch FAQ this coming week. Be patient!

I am on the fence about event exclusive units which only top players for the event can get from the Event Ladder. We all know ''top'' players are those who spend the most, with the random few f2p players with ultra luck. Its quite worrisome that there might be possibilities that there are options for powerful units to be given exclusively and the rich get richer, poor get poorer scenario  begins, especially when there is already a VIP level system.

There are no heroes or unit which only top event players get. 

Where was this mentioned? Perhaps the wording was wrong.

From this:

The new Event Ladder will now give players a better look at how they are faring in the Halloween Event. Do note that this ladder will not be available for all festive events. The top players can expect fabulous prizes, including the awesome 5 star Skeleton King card!

And:

Players will be introduced to new undead monsters, along with the powerful Skeleton King Maleos, a powerful 5-star monster which will wreck havoc, especially in Legendary mode. Watch out for his devastating attacks! Rumors claim he is a potent addition to any squad...

From past experiences, event tier ladders have prizes based on what rank players could achieve from say getting the most event etc item or beating the boss/stage with ever increasing difficulty the most times. Not sure if that's what its supposed to mean or its something else entirely, in which case I stand corrected.

I am pretty sure in the future there will be units which can only be obtained by high level players.

I am not sure what the complain is about here, but you expect a new player to have the same chance of getting a high level rare unit as veterans who have played for years?

It is quit amazing to see all the complaints even with the patch still not out. Man, you guys should give some credits to the dev team for coming up with all these content for launch.

From what I heard, they are apparently staying over in the office over the weekends to get things ready.

Thanks Dev team! 

Geez, the amount of whining and "please make VF equal for free players and players who have spent" comments are really disturbing.

People just don't want to see their account get reset after official launch also don't want those who already take the risk leave them behind (lel, what risk???)
Or I'll say it clear
"Me want strong more than anyone else but me don't want to spend any hard work on it. Me fail, me complaint until me have things me want"
Right kids?