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Looks pretty good!

I'd bump Gladiator Drake up abit on the PvP scale tho, he's one of the few characters that can purge shields and buffs off enemies and while also delivering a 3-target cc, I've been using him in arena ever since he was released, and I think he definitely deserves more than a C in the PvP department.

not just good but really awesome, u only need to adjust the rating, i will examine closely when i got time, but i have something catch in my eye, i think u can put 

                            PVE    PVP   Raid   Setup
shizu magebane : S         C       A         ?


PVE is proven S, because until now i still using it, the stun really help, if u combine with sven & assassin will be absolutely strong

PVP not really good for any setup, i still use her till 2 weeks a go & already combining many scenario 

Raid why A, because her speciiality is to use it against cyclops or tree to stun their right hand, to optimizing her use it with archer squad with sven zerker in it, to make it more optimalilzed must have archer Kane GR in it to assure the stun, for chimera or snake? better using something else, that can produce more damage

Setup  ? idk what's mean? if u mean versatilty to combination? it's about average

Thanks for the feedback 

Looks pretty good!

I'd bump Gladiator Drake up abit on the PvP scale tho, he's one of the few characters that can purge shields and buffs off enemies and while also delivering a 3-target cc, I've been using him in arena ever since he was released, and I think he definitely deserves more than a C in the PvP department.

I've increased Drake's PVP from C to B, forgot that it also removes buffs.

not just good but really awesome, u only need to adjust the rating, i will examine closely when i got time, but i have something catch in my eye, i think u can put

                           PVE    PVP   Raid   Setup
shizu magebane : S         C       A         ?

I'm holding off on valiants since they are getting a revamp (see Developers blog.)

Setup  ? idk what's mean? if u mean versatilty to combination? it's about average

Thanks for pointing this out, I was worried that it would be hard to understand. I edited the post to add an example to hopefully clarify. Looking forward to more input from you when you have time

It even scored from a poll. Only PvP and PvE tho.

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http://db-valiants.rhcloud.com/en/

It even scored from a poll. Only PvP and PvE tho.

Nice finding bro, if the participants or if most of VF force players contribute to the poll it can be a legitimate data poll

Thanks for the feedback 

Looks pretty good!

I'd bump Gladiator Drake up abit on the PvP scale tho, he's one of the few characters that can purge shields and buffs off enemies and while also delivering a 3-target cc, I've been using him in arena ever since he was released, and I think he definitely deserves more than a C in the PvP department.

I've increased Drake's PVP from C to B, forgot that it also removes buffs.

not just good but really awesome, u only need to adjust the rating, i will examine closely when i got time, but i have something catch in my eye, i think u can put

                           PVE    PVP   Raid   Setup
shizu magebane : S         C       A         ?

I'm holding off on valiants since they are getting a revamp (see Developers blog.)

Setup  ? idk what's mean? if u mean versatilty to combination? it's about average

Thanks for pointing this out, I was worried that it would be hard to understand. I edited the post to add an example to hopefully clarify. Looking forward to more input from you when you have time

 Ah now i understand what setup is all about, so for Shizu the setup will be grade B(only PVE). for pvp it can be grade B-- or C, because in pvp the aura only can works if there is guardian in opponent squad.
But i strongly suggest don't wait till valiant revamped, bcs we don't know when the implementation might be, & also to give a comparrison between before & after revamped, & bcs this is ur works the score will be ur preogratif, we can give u input, but it's ur decision to how & what the score in ur final decision(as long u don't give a perfect score, subjective can be fine xD)
Except if ur using polling like what Rain shown http://db-valiants.rhcloud.com/en/ , if ur using this kind of methods, the data will be not ur preogratif, & the accuracy of the data can be accurate based on who & how many ppl contribute to give their data.
so if u have this kind of works it can be good for our community, like newnar works i have agree & disagree but i respect his works, so pls don't be affraid of controversy, u already doing a good job

Shizu Samurai

Pvp : B
Pve : B
Raid : A
Setup : B

why pvp b? it's mostly cause her debuff 35% mag and deff. very effective against mystic hero

Pve B, her debuff really useful for boss in event or pve, and her aura not bad too

Raid i can say it's A, combine her aura with svenzerker aura and put sven pet on it, voila once it's triggered, can up to 8 trigger easily, and mostly more than 10.

Setup B, her item have no matter with aura or debuff, so easily to build, but u need more specific formation to use her aura efficiently

So Overall she is NORMAL not too good, not too bad, this is sadly for valiant

hmm, as expected, summoners are top tiers,,, so sad we are limited to use specific heroes to do quest and trial now.

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http://db-valiants.rhcloud.com/en/

It even scored from a poll. Only PvP and PvE tho.

I never knew that existed o_o. Thanks for sharing, I'll do some comparison and maybe change some of my ratings. However I noticed that Witch Doctor Luthor had quite high ratings so I'm guessing some of the ratings could be dated.

Thanks for the feedback 

Looks pretty good!

I'd bump Gladiator Drake up abit on the PvP scale tho, he's one of the few characters that can purge shields and buffs off enemies and while also delivering a 3-target cc, I've been using him in arena ever since he was released, and I think he definitely deserves more than a C in the PvP department.

I've increased Drake's PVP from C to B, forgot that it also removes buffs.

not just good but really awesome, u only need to adjust the rating, i will examine closely when i got time, but i have something catch in my eye, i think u can put

                           PVE    PVP   Raid   Setup
shizu magebane : S         C       A         ?

I'm holding off on valiants since they are getting a revamp (see Developers blog.)

Setup  ? idk what's mean? if u mean versatilty to combination? it's about average

Thanks for pointing this out, I was worried that it would be hard to understand. I edited the post to add an example to hopefully clarify. Looking forward to more input from you when you have time

 Ah now i understand what setup is all about, so for Shizu the setup will be grade B(only PVE). for pvp it can be grade B-- or C, because in pvp the aura only can works if there is guardian in opponent squad.
But i strongly suggest don't wait till valiant revamped, bcs we don't know when the implementation might be, & also to give a comparrison between before & after revamped, & bcs this is ur works the score will be ur preogratif, we can give u input, but it's ur decision to how & what the score in ur final decision(as long u don't give a perfect score, subjective can be fine xD)
Except if ur using polling like what Rain shown http://db-valiants.rhcloud.com/en/ , if ur using this kind of methods, the data will be not ur preogratif, & the accuracy of the data can be accurate based on who & how many ppl contribute to give their data.
so if u have this kind of works it can be good for our community, like newnar works i have agree & disagree but i respect his works, so pls don't be affraid of controversy, u already doing a good job

Thanks Your advice about comparison prompted me to add a changelog tab. I'll rate the valiants when I'm free and people can check the changelog after the revamp.