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Warlord aura is really good in pve, with a good trigger team you can just chain attacks, and berserker is really strong, so if I had to choose, I would made my Vincent warlord and my Freya Berserker.

A question to the arena veterans, kubizz and razk, which do you think is the preferred faith for pvp berserker vincent? 

Im kinda skeptical towards ares because that def is really too low for my liking but again I dont know whether that amount is sufficient in top tier pvp. My inclination lies with zeus atm coz it provides more survivability yet doesnt compromise too much on attk. 

The question is of course open to others as well. Feel free to participate!

A question to the arena veterans, kubizz and razk, which do you think is the preferred faith for pvp berserker vincent? 

Im kinda skeptical towards ares because that def is really too low for my liking but again I dont know whether that amount is sufficient in top tier pvp. My inclination lies with zeus atm coz it provides more survivability yet doesnt compromise too much on attk. 

The question is of course open to others as well. Feel free to participate!

I dont have any berserker.. but 100% sure i choose ares. If u dont like squishy hero or glass Cannon maybe u should reconsider going berserker. (Maybe zeus gladiator for its 2 turn stun and more def)

My warlord is ares faith too.. he most likely die in arena especially if vs top ranked or high dmg archer (sharpshooter). But before he died, he already did his job.

And it also depend on your equip, i think you need at least to get that 5* warrior set from prestige 10/11 to have better def (that Shield). If u only use that 4* warrior set with 2 handed weap (no Shield) than you'll surely die too fast. - not a must but surely help a Lot -

After that its your team composition, to have better survival your berserker need to have aura def from darrion holly defender, or Victoria paladin, or maybe just pit it between blood knight and teresa. Not to mention inquisitor Lucille. You need to consider all your team member.. not only your one berserker.

On a note.. berserker user like sojubeer, cervantes, bogeyy, all of them have ares faith. And abzde use zeus faith.

Warlord aura is really good in pve, with a good trigger team you can just chain attacks, and berserker is really strong, so if I had to choose, I would made my Vincent warlord and my Freya Berserker.

Yea.. and in the end i choose to limit break my warlord. And maybe make my Freya berserker. Still dont need berserker for now content, maybe later for Raid boss.

How about a gladiator vincent on top rank arena?i rarely seen anyone using gladiator on top 50..whats the pros n cons in arena

How about a gladiator vincent on top rank arena?i rarely seen anyone using gladiator on top 50..whats the pros n cons in arena

Gladiator has highest defense ,and lowest attack among the 4 classes. As warrior, they should focus on dealing damage so, not many people using Gladiator.

A question to the arena veterans, kubizz and razk, which do you think is the preferred faith for pvp berserker vincent? 

I dont have a berserker yet, but I do plan to make one with my recently recruit 3* Ares Vincent. The thing is with his skill and aura based off ATK stats, most likely you will end up with full fury rune and trinity/might gear for this class, making Ares path much more attractive with higher base modifier. Its a high risk high return style of play, I wont bother with just a bit more HP, or I would rather use other champion path with more utility. 

Berserker is the class you really have to watch out for in the arena, but luckily his attack range is shorter than the lancer path, you can totally avoid his attack until his skill came up.

How about a gladiator vincent on top rank arena?i rarely seen anyone using gladiator on top 50..whats the pros n cons in arena

The strength of the lancer path in the arena lies on his 3-tiles stab attack, especially in the current meta with tile control strat heavily abused. When using gladiator you can normally wait and hit the front enemy unit together with the range at the back. Gladiator is the most tanky out of all champion class and in fact is the second highest ATK stats champion if you consider his aura (losing only to berserker after aura kicks in). His stun, just like other cc, can be used to save his ally and delay enemy from casting skill. The addition barrier effect is quite helpful since he is always in front taking damage.
His downside is that his skill cant be used to OHKO the enemy unlike other 5* slayer path, which can be very crucial in the arena.

I dont have any berserker.. but 100% sure i choose ares. If u dont like squishy hero or glass Cannon maybe u should reconsider going berserker. (Maybe zeus gladiator for its 2 turn stun and more def)

My warlord is ares faith too.. he most likely die in arena especially if vs top ranked or high dmg archer (sharpshooter). But before he died, he already did his job.

And it also depend on your equip, i think you need at least to get that 5* warrior set from prestige 10/11 to have better def (that Shield). If u only use that 4* warrior set with 2 handed weap (no Shield) than you'll surely die too fast. - not a must but surely help a Lot -

After that its your team composition, to have better survival your berserker need to have aura def from darrion holly defender, or Victoria paladin, or maybe just pit it between blood knight and teresa. Not to mention inquisitor Lucille. You need to consider all your team member.. not only your one berserker.

On a note.. berserker user like sojubeer, cervantes, bogeyy, all of them have ares faith. And abzde use zeus faith.

Thanks so much for the insightful reply! I know that berserker benefits most from attack but im trying to find the optimal point for that particular stat. A sweet spot in other words. Like for instance, if having 10k raw attk stat is sufficient to ohko any guardian, I think it may be better that any points in excess of 10k goes to def. But of course if having that additional defense as a zeus or kratos zerk doesnt provide much different as opposed to a ares zerk, then its better to go full glass cannon. 
In short, im figuring out how does the attk stat and def stat scales up. Does def provides more returns?

A question to the arena veterans, kubizz and razk, which do you think is the preferred faith for pvp berserker vincent?

I dont have a berserker yet, but I do plan to make one with my recently recruit 3* Ares Vincent. The thing is with his skill and aura based off ATK stats, most likely you will end up with full fury rune and trinity/might gear for this class, making Ares path much more attractive with higher base modifier. Its a high risk high return style of play, I wont bother with just a bit more HP, or I would rather use other champion path with more utility.

Berserker is the class you really have to watch out for in the arena, but luckily his attack range is shorter than the lancer path, you can totally avoid his attack until his skill came up.

Yeap I wouldnt bother with hp either. But based on my arena fights, I feel that def may scale better than attk which makes the former an investment worthwhile, Not sure if you feel the same at the top bracket? Or everything crumbles before a maxed out ares vincent zerk haha.

Yeap I wouldnt bother with hp either. But based on my arena fights, I feel that def may scale better than attk which makes the former an investment worthwhile, Not sure if you feel the same at the top bracket? Or everything crumbles before a maxed out ares vincent zerk haha.

I would say so, seeing how everybody is switching a zerker in. What makes you think DEF scales better than ATK btw? Is it because DEF now increases MAG defense? I am curious to know which is actually better too.

Yeap I wouldnt bother with hp either. But based on my arena fights, I feel that def may scale better than attk which makes the former an investment worthwhile, Not sure if you feel the same at the top bracket? Or everything crumbles before a maxed out ares vincent zerk haha.

I would say so, seeing how everybody is switching a zerker in. What makes you think DEF scales better than ATK btw? Is it because DEF now increases MAG defense? I am curious to know which is actually better too.

Thats one of the reasons but there may be more. Of course this is just a hunch and I cannot find concrete evidence to back it up yet. Anyway i did some testing in arena and based on my findings, if your attack is lower than the opponent's defense, your normal attack damage will be in the low hundreds.
Additionally, unrelated to the topic, I actually found out that being in the central tiles which give bonus points per turn actually decrease the def of your troops per turn. Its a cumulative deduction so the longer you park there, the lower your def goes.