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I dont really care for Quests, since its reasonable as a skill vs monsters but arena?Isnt it too OP?

Before you say "valiants are meant to be stronger than most heroes etc" ,it is almost impossible to win when the damage you deal are reduced to 1 by 2 turns

Sure you'd say there are ninjas and those skill delayers but what if you dont have them?Considering that a large amount of people got lucille as their first valiants , you can imagine how much people has her not to mention those who had spent a lot of time (or money) on the game to earn their valiants.
I have her and i think she's too OP and its not fun when she starts her skill it just felt kinda not fun, on the archers you rely on crits on this unit you just need to make it to turn 7 then win?

Do note that even if ronan is better than kiera atm, there is nothing that can be compared to her 1 damage mitigation other than teresa which gives a fair shield based on MAG

I still remember not too long ago everyone was saying how useless Lucille is... Weaker than Teresa etc etc 

She's just stupidly OP on arena when you see her trigger it's just a casual auto to win.
The balance teams are also inactive, so far they only buffed 2 unit which doesnt even make them any better by a bit over the month while they kept releasing new units every event 

Theres no way to play around her / counterplay her before her skill starts.
As a unit for quests it is a fairly reasonable since bosses at high end deal absolutely huge damage ,
but cmon on arena it's just plain OP even a noob can know how op she is once they get it to *5

She's just stupidly OP on arena when you see her trigger it's just a casual auto to win.
The balance teams are also inactive, so far they only buffed 2 unit which doesnt even make them any better by a bit over the month while they kept releasing new units every event 

Theres no way to play around her / counterplay her before her skill starts.
As a unit for quests it is a fairly reasonable since bosses at high end deal absolutely huge damage ,
but cmon on arena it's just plain OP even a noob can know how op she is once they get it to *5

Hmm, there is quite a number of way to deal with her. First is faye HD, her skill will remove the buff. Second is stunner, or silencer.
Though I myself is using lucille, but I got my fair share of fighting against a team with lucille before and my solution is getting into the back line while my tanker hold the fort. My damager does not attack until the skill wear off. I only start using her recently because her stats is better.

Based on my squad, When I deal with Lucille inquis or archbishop, I come with different solutions:
- Swap her with ninja and kill her before she cast her skill
- Disable her by stunning or sleeping
- Kill her with berserker's 1 hit ko nuke
- Wait her shield effect to wear off

Because of the long cooldown ( 7 turns ), it is very easy to think up a solution to deal with her. Most of the time I'll just clear their front row with ninja+berserker combo, and disable Lucille before killing her, slowly 

You simply lack the experience to deal with healers. I love facing healers because they pretty much guarantee my victory in the arena.

All meta have a turnaround, if not, how others whale compete with whales, while we lower tier player can still compete with each other.

To counter Healer or Blessing of the Sun,
1. See if you can outpower by killing Healer 1st, if too tank or on 3rd Row, kill the DPS first.
2. Or if you have Stunner/Sleeper with 2turn - 3turn (Most ranger has this, and Assassin has Stun/Silence, all are under 5cd)
If you use (2), after disable healer, Kill other dps if you can, because dps will still outpower you even they don't have shield.

Good luck. This OP thing is like how others reacted to OP tanker in middle tile. Now where are the ranting? None, because we know how to counter them now.
And please remember, nothing is perfect in this world, this game. one squad can only works well on so many meta then, still lose to some, so please, do not rant on something you couldn't do well in very rare occasions. 

I love facing Lucille in arena.
Shes like a sign I'll get 100% win.

Either you kill her before her skill cooldown or kill enemy's Damage Dealer before she uses her skill, which i prefer the latter.
Because 2-turn shield when they have no DD is kinda useless.

Whenever an opponent's Lucille pop their shield, I pop mine too. Opponent shielded while on a tile? Knock back with Grand Ranger or Rune Magus, you can even swap with Chaos Knight or Ninja. There's still so many ways to go around Lucille's shield. Think it through before throwing the towel.

Have you ever seen Lucille combine with Faye PL?
Or Lucille combine with duo Faye?
That is way more OP..
But, those girls just like robot casting their skill when it ready..
As long as you can erase their DD in two hit in one round or at least two round, you already have guarantee win..