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Re: Need team build guidance!

Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:33 pm

Sorry but I just had to interject. This is triggering to no end. For the love of god, please, please never ever suggest Hercules faith for a Guardian even if it is Faye whose is sort of based around that. If you want more HP just opt for Zeus unless of course you never had a choice to begin with. I know you can remedy it with runes but if you want that Guardian to be your go-to unit to LB... just no, never Hercules, please.
From what I comprehend, if someone has higher Attack than your Defense they do significantly more damage. Not to mention I believe faith only affects stats on a percentage so if they have low Magic to begin with having Hercules won't change much, and compared to Zeus and Kratos you get only 500 more Magic and under 1k HP but you lose about 500 and 800 Defense respectively. That definitely isn't worth it at all considering equips and runes affects a percentage of your base stats and having not even 1k more HP on your base stats wouldn't affect the skills and aura that much, whereas losing that much Defense on your base stats will slowly add up and be very apparent.
I get what you mean, hercules would only make guardians softer if you had to choose between hercules and kratos. I would go for kratos, but some may wish to pump more hp by going hercules to put more umph on their skills. The increase doesn't really sound worth it, but you get what I mean. Yes, this game's damage formula is a simple atk - def where if def is higher than atk, you would somehow still deal damage, but close to 0. With the current arsenal of OP, he can swiftly make a unit that can be used as the unit that awaits Limit Breaking.
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Yeah I agree, going Herc on Faye is most ideal since her skills scale according to HP. However, I currently own a Kratos, Athena and a Hera Faye - so it'll have to be between these 3. That said, Kratos HP growth is very low compared to Athena, which will make her aura skills moot. Athena has the 2nd highest HP growth along with Mag growth, making her technically magic-tanky and decent aura heals with shitty Def and Atk.

Regarding Chaos Knights, that means they are mostly situational and in most cases used to disrupt enemy formations. PvP oriented in nature? Blood Knights feels like a hybrid between both worlds yeah?
Look at what Lite said and my reply to him regarding Faye.

Blood Knights can be used in PvE too yes, and for Chaos Knights, the swapping is situational yes but the damage that Chaos Knights' deal via skill is nothing to be laughed at. If you wish, you can make both a Blood Knight and Chaos Knight since you're abundant on Victoria's.
 
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Re: Need team build guidance!

Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:34 pm

@Lite
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but you're implying Def stat is way more useful than HP, regardless of the fact that Faye's auras requires high HP?
 
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Re: Need team build guidance!

Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:39 pm

Look at what Lite said and my reply to him regarding Faye.

Blood Knights can be used in PvE too yes, and for Chaos Knights, the swapping is situational yes but the damage that Chaos Knights' deal via skill is nothing to be laughed at. If you wish, you can make both a Blood Knight and Chaos Knight since you're abundant on Victoria's.
I would want to make both, but their faiths are well...Have a look!

These are the remainders that I currently have.
2 Knight Hera
1 Knight Hercules
1 Knight Athena
1 Knight Ares
I could probably go with just one BK or one CK since the other faiths are far from fitting.
 
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Re: Need team build guidance!

Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:45 pm

@Kuu Yeah I wasn't sorely replying to your comment to op but rather generally as most people always go Hercules as the best faith so I am fed up with it. Sorry, if I seem aggresive.

@Esca Not exactly. I'm saying the tradeoff isn't worth it as you only get slightly more HP from Hercules so having less defense isn't worth it. If you want your shields and auras to be stronger then Zeus faith is for you (we are talking about Faye right).
 
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Re: Need team build guidance!

Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:55 pm

@Lite
Makes perfect sense now that I did some rough estimation from your direction. (Zeus) 500 def for every attack compared to a solid 1k HP sans 500 def. Def totally counts for more at this point since the total damage mitigation is more than 1k if Faye takes more than a single hit.

And yes, we are discussing about Faye alright.

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Though this puts me in a predicament - would Faye fair better as Kratos since I only have Kratos, Athena and Hera to choose from?
 
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Re: Need team build guidance!

Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:22 pm

@Lite
Makes perfect sense now that I did some rough estimation from your direction. (Zeus) 500 def for every attack compared to a solid 1k HP sans 500 def. Def totally counts for more at this point since the total damage mitigation is more than 1k if Faye takes more than a single hit.

And yes, we are discussing about Faye alright.

EDIT:

Though this puts me in a predicament - would Faye fair better as Kratos since I only have Kratos, Athena and Hera to choose from?
having a Kratos would be ideal as it would grant her more survivability in most cases when compared to the other three(Hera is one of those faiths that should never be on guardians).
 
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Re: Need team build guidance!

Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:15 pm

That said; which faith is optimal for Faye if I could choose any faith to go for?

Kratos or Zeus?

Generally ALL Victorias works best with a Kratos faith right? Any exceptions for Zeus?