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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series: "Solo DD Trigger Team Build" - Anti Mega Bosses (Phoenix)

Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:16 pm

Very good guide Mr Mikan +1
Thanks Reed! Please boost our friendship pts further XD
This is what i call a real guide...
the team combination is not that difficult to form...
doesnt require a high prestige level..
still require some equip but not 6*...
is purely making full use of all the aura..

P.S : i got a almost same formation as yours, but im using double atk rune on Vincent, u wanna try if that's better?  8-) my Miu is providing the lifesteal aura
 
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series: "Solo DD Trigger Team Build" - Anti Mega Bosses (Phoenix)

Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:55 pm

Very good guide Mr Mikan +1
Thanks Reed! Please boost our friendship pts further XD
This is what i call a real guide...
the team combination is not that difficult to form...
doesnt require a high prestige level..
still require some equip but not 6*...
is purely making full use of all the aura..

P.S : i got a almost same formation as yours, but im using double atk rune on Vincent, u wanna try if that's better?  8-) my Miu is providing the lifesteal aura
Thanks!

The reason why Vincent is using vampire rune is because it provides a heal tick which can trigger SW Kahuna's aura. It is a "seperate" tick, I emphasized on seperate because this is important to note. Combined with a lifesteal aura, it becomes 2 ticks of heal, both being able to trigger SW Kahuna's aura with seperate 30% chances. Add Samurai Shizu's aura, it's a total of 3x 30% chance triggers to attack again per attack or per triggered attack, that translates to 34% fail rate. If I replace vampire rune with double strike rune, the chances of triggers will go down from 3 to 2 which translates to 49% fail rate.

Also, the second strike of double strike runes cannot proc auras. I have tested it already.
 
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series: "Solo DD Trigger Team Build" - Anti Mega Bosses (Phoenix)

Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:50 pm

My vincent can only reach 6k damage. I wonder if it is enough to kill the boss, obviously just pure damage, 6k damage can't do much to clear within 5 turn where after that things became nasty(cause the wings will start to give lots of trouble)
But I want to ask if the amount of triggers can overcome the lack of shear damage?
 
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Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:35 pm

My vincent can only reach 6k damage. I wonder if it is enough to kill the boss, obviously just pure damage, 6k damage can't do much to clear within 5 turn where after that things became nasty(cause the wings will start to give lots of trouble)
But I want to ask if the amount of triggers can overcome the lack of shear damage?
my vincent is 7k damage.. and im only farming stage 5.. heroic stage.. (my rank is now at 700+, tier 9)
i can farm legendary stage but fail rate quite high so i wont waste my energy on it..
the amount of trigger can really help u to increase your damage..
my vincent after his skill can deal 14k damage, and when crit it can reach near 20k...
 
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Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:20 pm

My vincent can only reach 6k damage. I wonder if it is enough to kill the boss, obviously just pure damage, 6k damage can't do much to clear within 5 turn where after that things became nasty(cause the wings will start to give lots of trouble)
But I want to ask if the amount of triggers can overcome the lack of shear damage?
my vincent is 7k damage.. and im only farming stage 5.. heroic stage.. (my rank is now at 700+, tier 9)
i can farm legendary stage but fail rate quite high so i wont waste my energy on it..
the amount of trigger can really help u to increase your damage..
my vincent after his skill can deal 14k damage, and when crit it can reach near 20k...
Well, I need to clear trial 2 which is without ally. So I hope to clear it
 
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series: "Solo DD Trigger Team Build" - Anti Mega Bosses (Phoenix)

Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:28 am

My vincent can only reach 6k damage. I wonder if it is enough to kill the boss, obviously just pure damage, 6k damage can't do much to clear within 5 turn where after that things became nasty(cause the wings will start to give lots of trouble)
But I want to ask if the amount of triggers can overcome the lack of shear damage?
Hi, if it's just for trial clearing, it should be enough. 6k ATK can be inconsistent on clearing legendary but it is possible to clear with good RNG. My guildie has cleared all trials with a 6.6k ATK vincent using this build.
 
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Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:39 am

Hi MIkan! 

i'm just wondering, does samurai shizu aura also activate when she hit multiple enemies? let's say there are 4 monsters and she attack once but she hits them all, does that mean there's a 4x chance to activate the aura? 

For now, since i don't have samurai shizu, i replaced her with warlord freya.. i'm not satisfied with chain attack though, my highest is 8 chain attacks which is kinda low compared to yours lol..  anyway, i love your guide!! 
 
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Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:19 am

Hi MIkan! 

i'm just wondering, does samurai shizu aura also activate when she hit multiple enemies? let's say there are 4 monsters and she attack once but she hits them all, does that mean there's a chance to activate the aura 4x? 

For now, since i don't have samurai shizu, i replaced her with warlord freya.. i'm not satisfied with chain attack though, my highest is 8 chain attacks which is kinda low compared to yours lol..  anyway, i love your guide!! 
SM Shizu cannot trigger her own aura as it says "Others" not "Everyone". Her aura works like this,
When Others in Aura attack, there is a 30% chance to:
Trigger attacking unit to attack with 85% of their ATK.
This means that if X unit is in SM Shizu's aura and X unit attacked, there is a 30% chance that X unit will attack for 85% of their ATK. It also means that the triggered attack can trigger the aura again since it's considered attacking.

I have another build variation for Freya. I will add alternative builds later on, it's just that I'm busy playing another game aside from Valiant Force.

And thanks for the support!
 
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Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:26 am

Hi MIkan! 

i'm just wondering, does samurai shizu aura also activate when she hit multiple enemies? let's say there are 4 monsters and she attack once but she hits them all, does that mean there's a chance to activate the aura 4x? 

For now, since i don't have samurai shizu, i replaced her with warlord freya.. i'm not satisfied with chain attack though, my highest is 8 chain attacks which is kinda low compared to yours lol..  anyway, i love your guide!! 
SM Shizu cannot trigger her own aura as it says "Others" not "Everyone". Her aura works like this,
When Others in Aura attack, there is a 30% chance to:
Trigger attacking unit to attack with 85% of their ATK.
This means that if X unit is in SM Shizu's aura and X unit attacked, there is a 30% chance that X unit will attack for 85% of their ATK. It also means that the triggered attack can trigger the aura again since it's considered attacking.

I have another build variation for Freya. I will add alternative builds later on, it's just that I'm busy playing another game aside from Valiant Force.

And thanks for the support!
woah! ok, that clears everything.. thanks mikan, looking forward to your next guide!  :D
 
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series: "Solo DD Trigger Team Build" - Anti Mega Bosses (Phoenix)

Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:36 am

My vincent can only reach 6k damage. I wonder if it is enough to kill the boss, obviously just pure damage, 6k damage can't do much to clear within 5 turn where after that things became nasty(cause the wings will start to give lots of trouble)
But I want to ask if the amount of triggers can overcome the lack of shear damage?
Hi, if it's just for trial clearing, it should be enough. 6k ATK can be inconsistent on clearing legendary but it is possible to clear with good RNG. My guildie has cleared all trials with a 6.6k ATK vincent using this build.
Wow,
Thats good new to me, but ya, need faith in RNG to hopefully vincent can hit the hardest. The bad part i facing now is the auras are not facing correctly. Good new is, i realised that leon is pretty tanky even without gear. (Took me 3 4* hero to change to the correct aura, gosh *heartpain*)