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Re: Help me build my party

Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:44 am

The game is still in its early stage with no info on other unreleased content (conquest), so its not easy to say which class would be more useful when this game is launched but if you dont mind me sharing from my 1 month game time:

Each faith has its own usefulness, sometimes I wish my mystics are Zeus/Kratos like in some maps. Still, you shouldnt worry about it when we are gonna get a better reroll system later anyway.

Elementalist Kiera
- I have one myself. She has the best magic buff aura in the game. Other than boosting her own spell, the aura can pretty much save anyone from getting OHKO by enemy skill damage. Nothing can go wrong with this.

Sharpshooter Cybelle
- Great dps, decent attack buff aura, highest single target spell with this path. I have this one too.

Magebane Kai (Is Ninja worth it for Gold Event? Because if I go Mind Warder Zedd, Silence and Skill Delay conflict with each other, right?)
- As you climb up to higher tier in the arena or even in legendary maps, the shadow class become less and less useful. They get pwn by both spell and heavy physical damage with no way of staying up alive. Their spells deal too little damage. Their chain attack, while quite useful in PVE, is a bad idea for the arena. If things remain unchanged, you will switch him out soon enough. 
Just use him as a placeholder. I have one as an assassin which I use for farming gold mine only.

Mind Warder Zedd
- Solid choice. The skill delay is useful in both arena and against boss in harder legendary maps.

Dragoon Vincent (Because Dragoons seem to have the highest Crit... but does that even matter? It's only 1000 with Hera faith at +2)
- I prefer Vincent gladiator, but the stun passive from dragoon is really handy sometimes. 

Also, do I really need a Healer? I'm at the mercy of RNG, if so...
- Definitely need one later on.
 
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Re: Help me build my party

Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:56 am

Just something to consider.. even though right now sharpshooter seems like the best archer path.. but for sharpshooter i think the best faith is Ares, then zeus. While hera faith is better for grand ranger in my opinion. But its up to you..
 
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Re: Help me build my party

Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:22 pm

Then nevermind.. its just theory crafting. I dont have both grand ranger and sharpshooter. But normally we choose sharpshooter for its pure damage.. and his skill is 250% attack.. and + crit for 3 turn by % of STR. So Ares with most STR is the most ideal for Sharpshooter. While hera is still good for its normal attack to crit, but when come to skill hera not giving any advantage.

Truthfully hera faith is better for cybella 3 another job, but beside grand ranger another job seems underpowered right now, not enough content for it to shine. While hera faith not give any advantage for grand ranger skill, its aura give 25% benefit to other stat, while sharpshooter only give 12%. And we use grand ranger for its status effect.. sleep 4 turn, not for damage, the skill damage only + 180% so the loss of not Ares faith is acceptable.

And other Tiny reason because of def.. hera faith def is so little, and sharpshooter's def is little too.. while grand ranger have the most def. So i just scared hera sharpshooter Will die too fast.

Its all just theory so relax.. you could see sharpshooter anywhere, sharpshooter still the best class for archer right now..
 
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Re: Help me build my party

Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:02 pm

So just saying from experience i have a cybelle sharpshooter with hera faith and its def is so low that only the mag stat is lower. So i really struggled in this event keeping my cybelle alive in legendary. She always died b4 the last stage so i couldnt make use of her atk and in the legendary story mode she's nearly worthless too cus she dies without heal pots in first wave by the 3rd map. So yea cybelle sharpshooter with hera faith is basically a glass cannon. So, i have this theory that the enemy units always targets the unit with lower defense as cybelle was always hit first cus she had the lowest def of 1.2k in my party. When i buffed her def , the enemy hit my zedd which had about the same def so yea u can consider that too when building ur team good luck :)
 
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Re: Help me build my party

Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:52 pm

If we talk about def in legendary it is not only about faith, even with zeus or kratos faith if the boss crit its normal to die with 1 hit. We need good eq, use item, heal, and maybe def aura.

About sleep and status effect i dont know.. even my holy defender taunt sometime miss.. but i can just Force close my game and resume the battle again and hope this time its working.

Arena ticket and Valiant ticket is random. You cannot choose.

Just advance your Ares cybella to sharpshooter +2 maxed. Right now stop your hera cybella at 4*, dont 5* her yet. Wait till you 100% sure what to do with her. You can use her to limit break your Ares cybella sharpshooter, or use her to complete stage which restricted 5* hero, sacrifice to change aura direction, or change other hero faith (if use for these wait for new mechanism of faith change).

Yes, Isabella is good at arena for its 5 turn cd silence. But the problem is again.. your hera faith. She is 4* mystic so her def is so bad.. and hera - athena is 2 faith with weak def, while athena can make your skill have the most damage, your hera bassically gave nothing. Enemy sharpshooter simple can 1 shot you.
 
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Re: Help me build my party

Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:25 pm

From what I see, grand ranger regardless of faith is more of a pve class. The sleep make it easier for mob control, but isnt that useful in arena, especially when your team has 2 great mystics. And now that you have ares cybella, just train her up instead and use your hera for limit break if you like. Talking about legendary stage, even my fully gear sharpshooter with 4*+15 equipments get one shotted standing in 2nd row after legendary act 2. You need def up items or holy defender/paladin to cover them.
 
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Re: Help me build my party

Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:12 pm

T-shape or inverted T are good enough for a guardian. In most circumstance, you wouldnt want to put more than 2 units in the front row anyway. My formation with a guardian is usually 2-2-1. There isnt much fight u wanna do 3-1-1 or 3-2-0.

Zeus faith is second best for tanking and has better damage so i dont see why not. I have a paladin as my main guardian myself, and he helps me clear up to legendary 24-2 (stuck on the last stage with not enough dps)

Dont worry about the 4* equipments, even if you get them from the event, they may not have the subfix you want. Meanwhile just use the 3* from heroic, you can start farming 4* again when you reach legendary.
 
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Re: Help me build my party

Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:21 am

When VF first launch.. yes my archbishop teresa can heal many times in one turn, but last time i try she cannot heal like that anymore, only can heal one time and heal more only if there is poison and burn.

But I don't know right now with recent patch and later patch. You should ask your guild member who have archbishop Teresa to test it at campaign map.
 
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Re: Help me build my party

Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:48 am

Just like kubizz said, the game mechanic still can change. Both of Teresa priest path are really good. Lets just say if they dont touch how healing aura work then i vote inquisitor for arena and archbishop for pve.
 
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Re: Help me build my party

Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:56 pm

There will be more 5* event hero in the future
With 6 aaria, or you feed her a bunch of hero for training and 100 job relic as promotion after waste 6 hero slot for a long time
Or you feed her to your main squad