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So I assume the Empty Stars are the max potential and 5 stars are the best so what I currently have is
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Ability to become 5*?
Kane (Archer Hera) 3*
Zeddx2 (Spell Breaker Zeus and Mage Zeus) 4* and 3*
Kai (Rogue Ares) 4*
Cybelle (Archer Zeus) 3*
Theresa (Acolyte Kratos) 3*
Luthorx2 (Acolyte Zeus+Athena) 3*
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Ability to become up to 4*
Leon (Knight Zeus) 3*
Natalia (Zealot Ares) 4*
Ralph (Zealot Kratos) 4*
Winryx2 (Archer Hera and Zeus) 3*
Luna (Archer Hera) 3*
Aaron (Archer Hercules) 3*
Kristoph (Mage Hera) 3*
Vannx3 (Thief Hercus+Ares+Athena) 3*
What should I do with my Team and what should be my team?

PVP
Kane (Archer Hera) 3* > Grand Ranger/Gunslinger
Zeddx2 (Spell Breaker Zeus and Mage Zeus) 4* and 3* > Mind Warder
Kai (Rogue Ares) 4* > Assassin
Cybelle (Archer Zeus) 3* > Grand Ranger/Gunslinger
Theresa (Acolyte Kratos) 3* > Inquisitor/Archbishop
Luthorx2 (Acolyte Zeus+Athena) 3* > Archbishop (Athena)/Limit Break (Zeus)
Leon (Knight Zeus) 3* > Zealot

Story-Mode
Kane (Archer Hera) 3* > Grand Ranger
Zeddx2 (Spell Breaker Zeus and Mage Zeus) 4* and 3* > Mind Warder
Kai (Rogue Ares) 4* > Bench/Assassin
Cybelle (Archer Zeus) 3* > Grand Ranger/Gunslinger
Theresa (Acolyte Kratos) 3* > Archbishop
Luthorx2 (Acolyte Zeus+Athena) 3* > Archbishop (Athena)/Limit Break (Zeus)
Leon (Knight Zeus) 3* > Crusader

- You can decide for Cybella to be Grand Ranger (Knockback, sleep, chain attack) or Gunslinger (low CD, sleep, chain attack), totally up to you but replace with Hera faith if you ever get one to make full use of her aura.
- You can decide for Teresa to be Inquisitor (Constant heals, cleanse) or Archbishop (Chance to heal on hit, shield), replace both with Athena faith if you ever get one, Healers/Mystics are very reliant on MAG (Zedd is no exception).
- Leon is only there if you need a tank.
- Luthor is a terrible Healer, don't depend on him.
- Save your 4* Heroes for expeditions, they can still be useful.

PVP
Kane (Archer Hera) 3* > Grand Ranger/Gunslinger
Zeddx2 (Spell Breaker Zeus and Mage Zeus) 4* and 3* > Mind Warder
Kai (Rogue Ares) 4* > Assassin
Cybelle (Archer Zeus) 3* > Grand Ranger/Gunslinger
Theresa (Acolyte Kratos) 3* > Inquisitor/Archbishop
Luthorx2 (Acolyte Zeus+Athena) 3* > Archbishop (Athena)/Limit Break (Zeus)
Leon (Knight Zeus) 3* > Zealot

Story-Mode
Kane (Archer Hera) 3* > Grand Ranger
Zeddx2 (Spell Breaker Zeus and Mage Zeus) 4* and 3* > Mind Warder
Kai (Rogue Ares) 4* > Bench/Assassin
Cybelle (Archer Zeus) 3* > Grand Ranger/Gunslinger
Theresa (Acolyte Kratos) 3* > Archbishop
Luthorx2 (Acolyte Zeus+Athena) 3* > Archbishop (Athena)/Limit Break (Zeus)
Leon (Knight Zeus) 3* > Crusader

- You can decide for Cybella to be Grand Ranger (Knockback, sleep, chain attack) or Gunslinger (low CD, sleep, chain attack), totally up to you but replace with Hera faith if you ever get one to make full use of her aura.
- You can decide for Teresa to be Inquisitor (Constant heals, cleanse) or Archbishop (Chance to heal on hit, shield), replace both with Athena faith if you ever get one, Healers/Mystics are very reliant on MAG (Zedd is no exception).
- Leon is only there if you need a tank.
- Luthor is a terrible Healer, don't depend on him.
- Save your 4* Heroes for expeditions, they can still be useful.

Ok so I havent Unlocked PVP yet but for Story I can run
Kai (Assasin)
Kane (Grand Ranger)
Cybelle (Gunslinger I guess Variety is nice?)
Zedd (Mind Warder)
Theresa (Inquisitor)

1.) How far can I get in the STory with this team? Esp with no Tank
2.) I guess Theresa > Luthor so Luthor is perma Benched?
3.) Should I use my Zedd dupe to Limit Break my Zedd?
4.) Whats the best way to position them?
5.) Are any of my Units Bad Faiths?

PVP
Kane (Archer Hera) 3* > Grand Ranger/Gunslinger
Zeddx2 (Spell Breaker Zeus and Mage Zeus) 4* and 3* > Mind Warder
Kai (Rogue Ares) 4* > Assassin
Cybelle (Archer Zeus) 3* > Grand Ranger/Gunslinger
Theresa (Acolyte Kratos) 3* > Inquisitor/Archbishop
Luthorx2 (Acolyte Zeus+Athena) 3* > Archbishop (Athena)/Limit Break (Zeus)
Leon (Knight Zeus) 3* > Zealot

Story-Mode
Kane (Archer Hera) 3* > Grand Ranger
Zeddx2 (Spell Breaker Zeus and Mage Zeus) 4* and 3* > Mind Warder
Kai (Rogue Ares) 4* > Bench/Assassin
Cybelle (Archer Zeus) 3* > Grand Ranger/Gunslinger
Theresa (Acolyte Kratos) 3* > Archbishop
Luthorx2 (Acolyte Zeus+Athena) 3* > Archbishop (Athena)/Limit Break (Zeus)
Leon (Knight Zeus) 3* > Crusader

- You can decide for Cybella to be Grand Ranger (Knockback, sleep, chain attack) or Gunslinger (low CD, sleep, chain attack), totally up to you but replace with Hera faith if you ever get one to make full use of her aura.
- You can decide for Teresa to be Inquisitor (Constant heals, cleanse) or Archbishop (Chance to heal on hit, shield), replace both with Athena faith if you ever get one, Healers/Mystics are very reliant on MAG (Zedd is no exception).
- Leon is only there if you need a tank.
- Luthor is a terrible Healer, don't depend on him.
- Save your 4* Heroes for expeditions, they can still be useful.

Ok so I havent Unlocked PVP yet but for Story I can run
Kai (Assasin)
Kane (Grand Ranger)
Cybelle (Gunslinger I guess Variety is nice?)
Zedd (Mind Warder)
Theresa (Inquisitor)

1.) How far can I get in the STory with this team? Esp with no Tank
2.) I guess Theresa > Luthor so Luthor is perma Benched?
3.) Should I use my Zedd dupe to Limit Break my Zedd?
4.) Whats the best way to position them?
5.) Are any of my Units Bad Faiths?

1.) Honestly I don't really know, I never really used a tank before and I'm up to the last chapter in Legendary. But that was a long time ago, it may be easier to clear story content as it was compared to last time. Equipment and Runes will also play a huge factor in your success.

2.) Unless you want to build a poison team for PVP, then yes he's benched. But I think poison is kinda negligible, better not to rely on it. 

3.) Yep, keep the one with Athena faith.

4.) I cannot give you a straight answer, depending on their aura directions, you have to juggle them around and experiment which ways to better place them to get the best benefit.

5.) Generally all Healers/Mystics need Athena to shine as they are pretty reliant on MAG. Kai and Cybelle's faith are fine, but not the best. Hera is good for both of them as mentioned.

PVP
Kane (Archer Hera) 3* > Grand Ranger/Gunslinger
Zeddx2 (Spell Breaker Zeus and Mage Zeus) 4* and 3* > Mind Warder
Kai (Rogue Ares) 4* > Assassin
Cybelle (Archer Zeus) 3* > Grand Ranger/Gunslinger
Theresa (Acolyte Kratos) 3* > Inquisitor/Archbishop
Luthorx2 (Acolyte Zeus+Athena) 3* > Archbishop (Athena)/Limit Break (Zeus)
Leon (Knight Zeus) 3* > Zealot

Story-Mode
Kane (Archer Hera) 3* > Grand Ranger
Zeddx2 (Spell Breaker Zeus and Mage Zeus) 4* and 3* > Mind Warder
Kai (Rogue Ares) 4* > Bench/Assassin
Cybelle (Archer Zeus) 3* > Grand Ranger/Gunslinger
Theresa (Acolyte Kratos) 3* > Archbishop
Luthorx2 (Acolyte Zeus+Athena) 3* > Archbishop (Athena)/Limit Break (Zeus)
Leon (Knight Zeus) 3* > Crusader

- You can decide for Cybella to be Grand Ranger (Knockback, sleep, chain attack) or Gunslinger (low CD, sleep, chain attack), totally up to you but replace with Hera faith if you ever get one to make full use of her aura.
- You can decide for Teresa to be Inquisitor (Constant heals, cleanse) or Archbishop (Chance to heal on hit, shield), replace both with Athena faith if you ever get one, Healers/Mystics are very reliant on MAG (Zedd is no exception).
- Leon is only there if you need a tank.
- Luthor is a terrible Healer, don't depend on him.
- Save your 4* Heroes for expeditions, they can still be useful.

Ok so I havent Unlocked PVP yet but for Story I can run
Kai (Assasin)
Kane (Grand Ranger)
Cybelle (Gunslinger I guess Variety is nice?)
Zedd (Mind Warder)
Theresa (Inquisitor)

1.) How far can I get in the STory with this team? Esp with no Tank
2.) I guess Theresa > Luthor so Luthor is perma Benched?
3.) Should I use my Zedd dupe to Limit Break my Zedd?
4.) Whats the best way to position them?
5.) Are any of my Units Bad Faiths?

1.) Honestly I don't really know, I never really used a tank before and I'm up to the last chapter in Legendary. But that was a long time ago, it may be easier to clear story content as it was compared to last time. Equipment and Runes will also play a huge factor in your success.

2.) Unless you want to build a poison team for PVP, then yes he's benched. But I think poison is kinda negligible, better not to rely on it. 

3.) Yep, keep the one with Athena faith.

4.) I cannot give you a straight answer, depending on their aura directions, you have to juggle them around and experiment which ways to better place them to get the best benefit.

5.) Generally all Healers/Mystics need Athena to shine as they are pretty reliant on MAG. Kai and Cybelle's faith are fine, but not the best. Hera is good for both of them as mentioned.

1.) Ok thanks
2.) is Althena Luthor worse than Kratos Theresa? What makes Luthor Bad and Theresa Good?
3.) I dont have an Althena Zedd both are Zeus sadly
4.) ok thanks
5.) ok so Kai (Ares) is good Faith not best. Cybelle (Zeus) is good Faith but not Best.  Zedd and Theresa (Zeus and Kratos) are bad because not Althena. What about Kane (Hera) ? How important is Faith in this game?

Ok so I havent Unlocked PVP yet but for Story I can run
Kai (Assasin)
Kane (Grand Ranger)
Cybelle (Gunslinger I guess Variety is nice?)
Zedd (Mind Warder)
Theresa (Inquisitor)

1.) How far can I get in the STory with this team? Esp with no Tank
2.) I guess Theresa > Luthor so Luthor is perma Benched?
3.) Should I use my Zedd dupe to Limit Break my Zedd?
4.) Whats the best way to position them?
5.) Are any of my Units Bad Faiths?

1.) Honestly I don't really know, I never really used a tank before and I'm up to the last chapter in Legendary. But that was a long time ago, it may be easier to clear story content as it was compared to last time. Equipment and Runes will also play a huge factor in your success.

2.) Unless you want to build a poison team for PVP, then yes he's benched. But I think poison is kinda negligible, better not to rely on it. 

3.) Yep, keep the one with Athena faith.

4.) I cannot give you a straight answer, depending on their aura directions, you have to juggle them around and experiment which ways to better place them to get the best benefit.

5.) Generally all Healers/Mystics need Athena to shine as they are pretty reliant on MAG. Kai and Cybelle's faith are fine, but not the best. Hera is good for both of them as mentioned.

1.) Ok thanks
2.) is Althena Luthor worse than Kratos Theresa? What makes Luthor Bad and Theresa Good?
3.) I dont have an Althena Zedd both are Zeus sadly
4.) ok thanks
5.) ok so Kai (Ares) is good Faith not best. Cybelle (Zeus) is good Faith but not Best.  Zedd and Theresa (Zeus and Kratos) are bad because not Althena. What about Kane (Hera) ? How important is Faith in this game?

2.) Luthor is terrible at everything as compared to Teresa, doesn't matter what faith he gets, just compare them and their skills/aura you can easily distinguish the differences. Most notably is the healing, Inquisitor Luthor doesn't have passive healing compared to Inquisitor Teresa. Archbishop Luthor only targets one ally instead of everyone compared to Archbishop Teresa.

5.) Sorry, let me make one correction, Kai should be Ninja for PVP (I made the same mistake on another topic). For a Kane with Hera faith, Grand Ranger is more suitable due to his aura. Gunslinger is there for his low CD and useful aura.

1.) Honestly I don't really know, I never really used a tank before and I'm up to the last chapter in Legendary. But that was a long time ago, it may be easier to clear story content as it was compared to last time. Equipment and Runes will also play a huge factor in your success.

2.) Unless you want to build a poison team for PVP, then yes he's benched. But I think poison is kinda negligible, better not to rely on it. 

3.) Yep, keep the one with Athena faith.

4.) I cannot give you a straight answer, depending on their aura directions, you have to juggle them around and experiment which ways to better place them to get the best benefit.

5.) Generally all Healers/Mystics need Athena to shine as they are pretty reliant on MAG. Kai and Cybelle's faith are fine, but not the best. Hera is good for both of them as mentioned.

1.) Ok thanks
2.) is Althena Luthor worse than Kratos Theresa? What makes Luthor Bad and Theresa Good?
3.) I dont have an Althena Zedd both are Zeus sadly
4.) ok thanks
5.) ok so Kai (Ares) is good Faith not best. Cybelle (Zeus) is good Faith but not Best.  Zedd and Theresa (Zeus and Kratos) are bad because not Althena. What about Kane (Hera) ? How important is Faith in this game?

2.) Luthor is terrible at everything as compared to Teresa, doesn't matter what faith he gets, just compare them and their skills/aura you can easily distinguish the differences. Most notably is the healing, Inquisitor Luthor doesn't have passive healing compared to Inquisitor Teresa. Archbishop Luthor only targets one ally instead of everyone compared to Archbishop Teresa.

5.) Sorry, let me make one correction, Kai should be Ninja for PVP (I made the same mistake on another topic). For a Kane with Hera faith, Grand Ranger is more suitable due to his aura. Gunslinger is there for his low CD and useful aura.

2.) Ah ok Thanks. So I should save Luthor for the Faith Reroll thing? How Big of a thing is Faith? Does it make a big Difference?
5.) How about for PVE? Is it Assasi for PVE and Ninja for PVP? or Is ninja better for both?  Noted Grand Ranger for Kane. Would it be better to just have both Cybelle and Kane as Grand Rangers? Grand Ranger seems better than Gunslinger

1.) Ok thanks
2.) is Althena Luthor worse than Kratos Theresa? What makes Luthor Bad and Theresa Good?
3.) I dont have an Althena Zedd both are Zeus sadly
4.) ok thanks
5.) ok so Kai (Ares) is good Faith not best. Cybelle (Zeus) is good Faith but not Best.  Zedd and Theresa (Zeus and Kratos) are bad because not Althena. What about Kane (Hera) ? How important is Faith in this game?

2.) Luthor is terrible at everything as compared to Teresa, doesn't matter what faith he gets, just compare them and their skills/aura you can easily distinguish the differences. Most notably is the healing, Inquisitor Luthor doesn't have passive healing compared to Inquisitor Teresa. Archbishop Luthor only targets one ally instead of everyone compared to Archbishop Teresa.

5.) Sorry, let me make one correction, Kai should be Ninja for PVP (I made the same mistake on another topic). For a Kane with Hera faith, Grand Ranger is more suitable due to his aura. Gunslinger is there for his low CD and useful aura.

2.) Ah ok Thanks. So I should save Luthor for the Faith Reroll thing? How Big of a thing is Faith? Does it make a big Difference?
5.) How about for PVE? Is it Assasi for PVE and Ninja for PVP? or Is ninja better for both?  Noted Grand Ranger for Kane. Would it be better to just have both Cybelle and Kane as Grand Rangers? Grand Ranger seems better than Gunslinger

"I suggest you ignore the faith first as it is more of an end-game feature and focus more on getting them to 5*. Faith is pretty much negligible until you feel you can push your heroes to the limit. On a side note, re-rolling faith is getting a revamp in the future as it is too costly to do so now so let's wait for that." 

Adding on to what I said before above, faith only affects like say... 5-25% of your stat depending on the grade. For Kai, the Rogue path is leaning towards more on the PVP side, while the Kensei path on the PVE side. Gunslingers can be deadly at times when their aura chains continuously, if not they have the lowest CD for a 5* which is also annoying in PVP.

2.) Luthor is terrible at everything as compared to Teresa, doesn't matter what faith he gets, just compare them and their skills/aura you can easily distinguish the differences. Most notably is the healing, Inquisitor Luthor doesn't have passive healing compared to Inquisitor Teresa. Archbishop Luthor only targets one ally instead of everyone compared to Archbishop Teresa.

5.) Sorry, let me make one correction, Kai should be Ninja for PVP (I made the same mistake on another topic). For a Kane with Hera faith, Grand Ranger is more suitable due to his aura. Gunslinger is there for his low CD and useful aura.

2.) Ah ok Thanks. So I should save Luthor for the Faith Reroll thing? How Big of a thing is Faith? Does it make a big Difference?
5.) How about for PVE? Is it Assasi for PVE and Ninja for PVP? or Is ninja better for both?  Noted Grand Ranger for Kane. Would it be better to just have both Cybelle and Kane as Grand Rangers? Grand Ranger seems better than Gunslinger

"I suggest you ignore the faith first as it is more of an end-game feature and focus more on getting them to 5*. Faith is pretty much negligible until you feel you can push your heroes to the limit. On a side note, re-rolling faith is getting a revamp in the future as it is too costly to do so now so let's wait for that." 

Adding on to what I said before above, faith only affects like say... 5-25% of your stat depending on the grade. For Kai, the Rogue path is leaning towards more on the PVP side, while the Kensei path on the PVE side. Gunslingers can be deadly at times when their aura chains continuously, if not they have the lowest CD for a 5* which is also annoying in PVP.

Ok thanks  but whats your opinion on why Ninja is better than Assasin? Kai is alrdy a rogue so I cant go the Kensei path. Is Ninja better than Assasin in PVE and PVP?

2.) Ah ok Thanks. So I should save Luthor for the Faith Reroll thing? How Big of a thing is Faith? Does it make a big Difference?
5.) How about for PVE? Is it Assasi for PVE and Ninja for PVP? or Is ninja better for both?  Noted Grand Ranger for Kane. Would it be better to just have both Cybelle and Kane as Grand Rangers? Grand Ranger seems better than Gunslinger

"I suggest you ignore the faith first as it is more of an end-game feature and focus more on getting them to 5*. Faith is pretty much negligible until you feel you can push your heroes to the limit. On a side note, re-rolling faith is getting a revamp in the future as it is too costly to do so now so let's wait for that." 

Adding on to what I said before above, faith only affects like say... 5-25% of your stat depending on the grade. For Kai, the Rogue path is leaning towards more on the PVP side, while the Kensei path on the PVE side. Gunslingers can be deadly at times when their aura chains continuously, if not they have the lowest CD for a 5* which is also annoying in PVP.

Ok thanks  but whats your opinion on why Ninja is better than Assasin? Kai is alrdy a rogue so I cant go the Kensei path. Is Ninja better than Assasin in PVE and PVP?

No, having a Ninja in PVE is either excess baggage, or a liability to the team. Besides the gold event which makes the Ninja somewhat useful due to his refresh aura, you cannot really depend on it when facing monsters. As the story progress, so does the toughness of the mobs. You can use his skill to swap places with monsters, but that would mean you are placing him in their territory alone, and when his stealth runs out, he's gonna die fast. Let's not forget who you swapped with, if you can't kill that monster before he gets to react, your team is gonna take a big hit. 

As for Assassin, critical attacks are easier to achieve with high CRIT instead of kills. He has a slightly lower chance to trigger his refresh as compared to the Ninja, and also his refresh doesn't include himself. But instead of swap, he gets a 3 turn silence instead, which can be useful in most situations but still have to watch out for normal attacks.