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Ok so i just start this game few days ago.. im thinking to go for pvp but before i read some guides i have these characters on my team
Zeus- Shizu 4-5 :  as Kensei+2 ( 1st imma thinkin about change her into samurai for my 2nd tanks because of her faith) but some guides said i should go with rogue's path for pvp
Ares- Victoria 4-5 : as Crusader, she's going to be my main tank.. which path should i choose for her? paladin or holy defender?
Zeus- Cybella 5-5 : as Grand Ranger, couldnt choose anything for her.. i pulled her at 5*
Athena- Aaron 4-4: as Marksman, i got him on kratos, and sacrifice my vaan on him.. now all of my attackers have weak crits.. sad me 
Kratos- Claude 3-4 as Acolyte+2 ( i think he's going priest ) but again.. his magic are weak
-roster-
hercules-Dante 3-4 (should i work on him?)
and the one and only Zeus-Leon 3-4

now as a pvp oriented player i guess i totally f***d up.. because my 1st mistake are promoted shizu into kensei
my question.. did the samurai really didnt have a chance into pvp? also my unreliable faith on the rest of my team?

when i read those guides.. i think that i'll restarting my progress, but i dont think throwing my Cybella away is a good choice.. 

You'll eventually get better pulls so stick with them. Grand Ranger Cybella ain't bad. She's actually decent or great depending on your team. Since you mostly have PVE jobs, you should focus on doing PVE maps and get those gems from trials for more summons. IMO you shouldn't really be thinking about PVP as of now because you'll need way better pulls to get a decent team. 

You'll eventually get better pulls so stick with them. Grand Ranger Cybella ain't bad. She's actually decent or great depending on your team. Since you mostly have PVE jobs, you should focus on doing PVE maps and get those gems from trials for more summons. IMO you shouldn't really be thinking about PVP as of now because you'll need way better pulls to get a decent team. 

ok thanks for the answer, i'll hold my desire for PVP then
btw... as a Zeus Samurai Shizu.. is she viable for pvp? or she's just a pure pve

a single ninja kai took me from 1100 in arena to 1500 in less than a week

yes i know that ninja are so powerful, but my question are.. samurai viable for pvp? also my other characters?
i wanna know how many characters that i have who viable for pvp 

Samurai are viable in some case in PvP, they can slain a tank quickly because of the -def debuff and clear a tile quickly (assuming you have strong attacker).
Just stick with what you have now, adapt and improve is the best strategic for new starter.

Your possible arena cores:
Front row
-Shizu as samurai
-Victoria as either job (there is no much difference between 2 in PvP, as holy defender she can remove stun or silence, given your Victoria is not suffering from those debuffs, and paladin for more damage output and a reliable shield for your squadmate.)

Middle/back row
-Cybella, just use her skill to knockback their tank from the tile, quite useful if you start as second.

As for the other unit you mentioned, you should make your Claude as Sage for the debuff removal, since it doesn't scale with your magic, and also free up your Victoria for mass debuff removal if yor Victoria is suffering from 1. Your Aaron is kinda bad, the only thing I think it worth being a PvP squadmate is the skill counter delay, but it only delay 1 unit so it kinda meh. Don't work on your Dante unless you need his 20% def reduction as Slayer.

TL;DR: Use your Shizu and Victoria to capture the tile and support them with Cybella, and your Claude as Sage should do an OK job along with them. The other units you mentioned are just cannon fodder used to lure the enemy nukes.

woah mr locket.. that's really inspiring.. thank you for your tips.. i'll farm gems and see what's i'll get from the next pulls.. thank you

woah mr locket.. that's really inspiring.. thank you for your tips.. i'll farm gems and see what's i'll get from the next pulls.. thank you

You're welcomed. Gems are relatively easy to obtain in this game, however I recommend you to do the gem draw when you have the quest for it to maximise your gain, especially if there is a quest that requires you to spend gem or something.
As for now you should aim to build a strong team in term of bronze rank in arena. If you improve rank too fast you will find it difficult to win, especially when you have to face at least 3x5* squad everytime, this could hinder your progress to complete arena win for event quest (if there is one).

woah mr locket.. that's really inspiring.. thank you for your tips.. i'll farm gems and see what's i'll get from the next pulls.. thank you

You're welcomed. Gems are relatively easy to obtain in this game, however I recommend you to do the gem draw when you have the quest for it to maximise your gain, especially if there is a quest that requires you to spend gem or something.
As for now you should aim to build a strong team in term of bronze rank in arena. If you improve rank too fast you will find it difficult to win, especially when you have to face at least 3x5* squad everytime, this could hinder your progress to complete arena win for event quest (if there is one).

ok. i've just did the 10 summons.. i got some new 3*cybella which one of em have the ares faith (better than my other cybella who had athena and zeus) also got a 4* rogue kai (FINALLY !!!) but didnt get any champions.. lol so.. should i make progress my other cybella then limitbreak her (ares cybella) ? my future arena squad will be: 
shizu(samurai)-Victoria(paladin)-Kai(ninja) in the front row
Cybella(i dont know which the best for ares cybella)-Claude(sage)
this comp sounds good?

ok. i've just did the 10 summons.. i got some new 3*cybella which one of em have the ares faith (better than my other cybella who had athena and zeus) also got a 4* rogue kai (FINALLY !!!) but didnt get any champions.. lol so.. should i make progress my other cybella then limitbreak her (ares cybella) ? my future arena squad will be: 
shizu(samurai)-Victoria(paladin)-Kai(ninja) in the front row
Cybella(i dont know which the best for ares cybella)-Claude(sage)
this comp sounds good?

Sure, that would work in most situation. For the Cybella I recommend you to make another Grand Ranger with Ares faith because Ares is definitely better than Zeus faith on Cybella (plus better crits). With 3 melee line up the Grand Ranger Cybella's skill and aura will work well by clearing tiles and capture all 3 tiles with your 3 melees.
There is an alternative way for your formation, you can put your ninja at the far corner with no one nearby, and ready to swap enemy guardian away from the occupied tile. Of course it is up to you and see which one fits your playstyle better.

Overview on 5* Cybella
GR- Supportish ranger with knockback and sleeping skill. Aura helps disrupting enemy front row and suitable in "capture the tile" strategic.
RH- A pure supportish ranger with shielding and mis-directing (does not work in arena). This job's aura works great when you have 2 or more ranged heroes and against 2 or more enemy ranged heroes. This is not a PvP hero unless you have some special tactics with her.
GS- Best with Hera faith, the 95% aura trigger chance will almost guarantee you to chain attack with other unit after crit. The skill is kinda meh because it only sleep 1 unit for mere 2 turns.(Small tips: If the ninja killed someone in the chain attack and the ninja's aura triggered, Cybella will get refreshed and possible to set up another chain attack, which is extremely deadly in arena.)
SS- Ranger with best attack among all 4 jobs. Her aura works well with hero that would use some crit boost. The downside is the 7 turns cooldown, which is only 1 skill usage per 2 turn on average.

You can continue using your current 5* Cybella and leave the ares Cybella on hold until you have better unit for the 5th unit, and again it's up to you.