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2-3 archer in formation is really annoying, they can kill easily my champion frontliner in just one turn..
But, hey..
It's also part of the strategy (for brainless ppl, but it works as fu) and actually that's how ranger dominate another classes..
If they got nerf, then what rangers could offer to make people using them again?

wait, I didn't mean nerfing the rangers. What I mean is nerfing the attack-trigger aura like limiting the triggers in a turn, for example 'GS Cybella crits > triggers GR Kane to attack and Kane also crits > triggers Cybella to attack again and still deal crits' then that's it, no more attack trigger in that move. Of course, this also apply to other class with attack-trigger aura like magebane or samurai. This attack-trigger again and again and again is just annoying, not even a strategy, this game revolves around strategy but this long chain attack-trigger ironically facing against it :/


ps. sorry for my bad english

2-3 archer in formation is really annoying, they can kill easily my champion frontliner in just one turn..
But, hey..
It's also part of the strategy (for brainless ppl, but it works as fu) and actually that's how ranger dominate another classes..
If they got nerf, then what rangers could offer to make people using them again?

wait, I didn't mean nerfing the rangers. What I mean is nerfing the attack-trigger aura like limiting the triggers in a turn, for example 'GS Cybella crits > triggers GR Kane to attack and Kane also crits > triggers Cybella to attack again and still deal crits' then that's it, no more attack trigger in that move. Of course, this also apply to other class with attack-trigger aura like magebane or samurai. This attack-trigger again and again and again is just annoying, not even a strategy, this game revolves around strategy but this long chain attack-trigger ironically facing against it :/


ps. sorry for my bad english

Yes, I completely understand what you mean by "nerf"..
If they nerf how triggered attack work, then it shouldn't apply to everyone..
It should only applies to AI, this will keep Ranger hero still usefull..

And the AI is also abuseable so it's fine. My Ninja Kai is always in the frontline and I purposely put him there so he will become a bullet attractor. My Kai is using +15 Dodge Rune and a has Faye Paladin beside him. What happens with this combo? Well, just some absorb and dodge fest against trigger teams. The best part about trigger teams is it's a bunch of ranger squishies which is really easy to kill. I can also massively damage them with my Samurai Shizu's aoe skill because of how trigger teams are forced to be near each other.

Trigger teams has those weaknesses, you just need to see it instead of getting blinded by rage.

No tank is not an excuse. MLB'd Crusader Leon which can be obtained by everyone, can easily reach 7k def (w/o adding aura yet) with proper gears. 7k def adds 1.4k defense to any units on his aura, that's a solid -1400 damage to any incoming hits. Triggered attacks are mostly weak already since they are usually around 80% of ATK only with the exception of GS Cybella with 100% ATK trigger. So a 1400 damage mitigation will do so much against them.

Am I credible? I already reached 5k ratings, it's up to you if you find what I say credible or not.

wait, I didn't mean nerfing the rangers. What I mean is nerfing the attack-trigger aura like limiting the triggers in a turn, for example 'GS Cybella crits > triggers GR Kane to attack and Kane also crits > triggers Cybella to attack again and still deal crits' then that's it, no more attack trigger in that move. Of course, this also apply to other class with attack-trigger aura like magebane or samurai. This attack-trigger again and again and again is just annoying, not even a strategy, this game revolves around strategy but this long chain attack-trigger ironically facing against it :/


ps. sorry for my bad english

Yes, I completely understand what you mean by "nerf"..
If they nerf how triggered attack work, then it shouldn't apply to everyone..
It should only applies to AI, this will keep Ranger hero still usefull..

If they want to nerf it shouldnt limit to AI only it should be for both players and AI, otherwise they dont need to bother nerfing anything.

Oh ya now i started to get convinced that the trigger aura mechanics is somehow "nerfed".
It rarely trigger 4th attacks, example if i crit with GR first, then it triggers the GS to crit, and if it triggers back the GR to crit again the GS will not attack anymore and if it does it rarely happens.

Im assuming now that everytime the rangers crit procs, their chances to trigger aura are drastically reduced, thus, reducing the chance of an archer team getting infinite trigger chains.

wait, I didn't mean nerfing the rangers. What I mean is nerfing the attack-trigger aura like limiting the triggers in a turn, for example 'GS Cybella crits > triggers GR Kane to attack and Kane also crits > triggers Cybella to attack again and still deal crits' then that's it, no more attack trigger in that move. Of course, this also apply to other class with attack-trigger aura like magebane or samurai. This attack-trigger again and again and again is just annoying, not even a strategy, this game revolves around strategy but this long chain attack-trigger ironically facing against it :/


ps. sorry for my bad english

Yes, I completely understand what you mean by "nerf"..
If they nerf how triggered attack work, then it shouldn't apply to everyone..
It should only applies to AI, this will keep Ranger hero still usefull..

If they want to nerf it shouldnt limit to AI only it should be for both players and AI, otherwise they dont need to bother nerfing anything.

Oh ya now i started to get convinced that the trigger aura mechanics is somehow "nerfed".
It rarely trigger 4th attacks, example if i crit with GR first, then it triggers the GS to crit, and if it triggers back the GR to crit again the GS will not attack anymore and if it does it rarely happens.

Im assuming now that everytime the rangers crit procs, their chances to trigger aura are drastically reduced, thus, reducing the chance of an archer team getting infinite trigger chains.