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Re: [Feedback] Ronan - All you need is 2 Ronans on arena

Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:34 pm

I believe it is still too early to suggest nerf on Ronan.  Ronan can be overpowered only if you are the one controlling him in arena. But if you are fighting Ronan AI, there are many ways to counter it. Whereas archer trigger team, even if you are fighting against an AI, they are still very devastating in the first round. That's why a lot of people have complained about archer trigger team but only very few and actually none that I know of ever say that they could not beat a lineup with Ronan/Ronans in arena.
Because only few people has Ronan as he is a newly introduced unit. Even myself only has 1 Ronan which I got randomly from a 2-4* ticket at the start of Drake Event. Go to VF Discord and chat with people there about 2 Ronans. Some are just not vocal but they are not stupid to not know that 2 Ronan teams is just cancer.
 
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Re: [Feedback] Ronan - All you need is 2 Ronans on arena

Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:56 pm

To be honest , ill rather meet 3 archers than 2 Ronans with a Faye pala lol , previously i think there was a bug which RM ronan not doing skills in arena or hitting dead enemies etc , with that fixed now , ronan skills are deadly . Ninja could swap in and try to kill off ronans *only if u managed to trigger or kill off the front line if not with faye pala shield will be suicide for the ninja , and the next turn both ronans skills are up , most of the time ill try to take out the faye 1st which is not easy at my ratings , overall , i dont know whether ronan needs a nerf or not , but be sure upcoming we gonna see more dbl ronans in arena  
 
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Re: [Feedback] Ronan - All you need is 2 Ronans on arena

Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:18 pm

It still remains to be seen whether Ronan-centric arena team will proliferate if and when the archer trigger team gets nerfed. I use Ronan and I actually don't have any problem with archer trigger team.  My team can withstand any archer trigger team in arena except maybe a few consistent top 10 players who use trigger team, however, it still a matter of public demand when it comes to nerfing.  I suppose it's too soon for this issue right now.
 
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Re: [Feedback] Ronan - All you need is 2 Ronans on arena

Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:51 pm

I just wish to say this. I am a lazy arena player. For past 2 weeks, i thought my team grew stronk outta nowhere. Turns on Ronan was not using his special in arena lmao. I have been repeatedly pulverized by him. So Stronk!  :shock:
 
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Re: [Feedback] Ronan - All you need is 2 Ronans on arena

Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:53 pm

Have you try zedd rune magus, see how good ronan missile handle them ...
 
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Re: [Feedback] Ronan - All you need is 2 Ronans on arena

Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:05 pm

Mikan,

I think I get where you coming from. Why I thought ninja can do the job is because of the current rating I in. I believe when you hit that high rating, everything become ridiculous, cause mostly should have good equipments with optimised stats. So my guess is, Ronan with such equipment and runes will become overwhelmed and swapping or silence will render useless due to the high stats they have.
Even though I cant see it now, because I in a much lower rating,  but I feel that might be the situation now. Because their tanky or front liner can easily absorb the damage of their backliner. While their backliner just wait for the time to ripe to unleash.
I'll be honest, Ninja as counter is actually not a bad idea, I always had been tempted to make a Ninja Kira. The problem though is there are other factors to consider. It's not like you are only fighting 2 Ronans with a bunch of dummies in front of them that doesn't do anything.
Hmm, it depends on the AI, because when we fighting, it is against AI, and not human. So AI can be quite stupid.
Example, for me to build a team with 2 ronan, i will put a 2 ronan behind. infront with lucille, then 2 tanker infront. This will provide enough def up for ronan at the backline because of lucille and the def ronan. (lucille also become tougher because of ronan).
AI team with swapper always swap the tile, meaning this formation will guarentte win, unless your ronan is 1 hit KO (since ronan now become the sole Damage provider)
So let say u meet my team and you are a swapper team build. I will not swap the mid tile, i will swap with the backline ronan. First round will finish without any much damage, but ninja already swap in.
So there is 2 situation now, 1 is, 2nd round my ninja bounce on ronan and lucille and killed the ronan that is at the back row. 2 is, i didnt manage to kill anyone at the back row. Base on AI, first ronan will cast the push back skill, then i will be able to cast my faye shield, then this will go on.
So i feel that, because of AI, they can become quite stupid. but luck play a part here. Because i have seen Ronan AI attack and 3 missile hit my tanker, almost killing it. Crazy.
 
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Re: [Feedback] Ronan - All you need is 2 Ronans on arena

Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:53 pm

Have you try zedd rune magus, see how good ronan missile handle them ...
Sure. Both skills has 6-turn cooldown meaning it will be RNG who will decide if you will get to cast your walls before the enemy Ronan cast his skill.
 
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Re: [Feedback] Ronan - All you need is 2 Ronans on arena

Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:17 pm

if your using them i think its a good team to climb with, cuz its gonna act like a glass cannon, yu charge and survive thenn boooom...
but i cant say the same if yur facing them in arena, 
....swap really counters them easily.... just aim for the MW 1st  ...i mean.. if yu cant really kill a ronan thats been swapped that means yu need to upgrade yur dps units..
 
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Re: [Feedback] Ronan - All you need is 2 Ronans on arena

Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:33 pm

I am using one ronan MW in my arena team and yes I have to agree he is strong. He can decimate champions and archers easily if there is no shields to block. Now I imagine 2 ronans plus 2 faye HD and PL in an arena team, this team will be hard to deal with. Seriously, valiants need a buff -.- Kiera elementalist can't even compare well enough to ronans.
 
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Re: [Feedback] Ronan - All you need is 2 Ronans on arena

Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:34 pm

yeah nerf till ur SDD is the best right? All others should be nerf just because ur team cannot win against it. I think we should nerf all heros till all heros have 1 attk, 1 def, 1 crit, 1 hp
Another toxic forumer. My SDD build isn't meant for arena and I know too well that it will underperform there because it is very reliant on just 1 unit or maybe you didn't have the capacity to even think of that. That build only excels on extremely tanky bosses, it is a niche build and hopefully you know the meaning of "niche". I also do not use any form of trigger team except for a duo archer on arena so get your facts straight.
Sorry you are the toxic one. 2 ronan are damn easy to kill, especially with kira swapping in, next turn crit and ronan is dead. I have fought arena not using a archer trigger team and have won 2 ronan multiple times. 2 ronan might be what you call strong for a reason, people invest in them. Other people who have similarly invested in some other good enough units can take them out.
To those people who just because not able to win 2 ronan and anyhow say they are OP to get them nerf so they they can try pull other people down to a level they can compete against are the toxic ones, not people who spend time and effort to build up a team