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Re: The new event quests are crazy

Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:36 pm

From my readings of the previous posts, the situation seems to be as follows:

1. 100 Arena Wins are necessary.
2. Arena energy is provided at 1 per hour.
3. The event lasts for 3 weeks. 

100 Wins / 3 weeks = Roughly 34 wins per week. Broken down on a per day basis, this generally means at least 5 wins per day. If matchmaking is working, then a 50%* win rate should mean 10 matches per day to complete this achievement. I'm not sure how long an arena match takes as I'm not in the game, but if we presume 5mins** per match, thats equivalent to 50minutes per day of arena battling. This time requirement will go up/down depending on your relative success.

I guess there are 2 questions at the end of the day around this:

1. Is a potential average of 50minutes extra per day a reasonable amount of play for this achievement
and 
2. What is the actual aim of this achievement? - is it to encourage more people to participate in arena, or is it to reward people who are skilled/persistent in arena (Essentially, is time in arena the goal or actual outcomes). 

Personally, I think 50 minutes seems fine. Provided that your ELO also gets adjusted in some way for every loss, it should allow for a suitable playing environment for the majority of players. 

*As CBT numbers are low, I'm probably guessing matchmaking isn't working that great, as there would be fewer players participating to spread the tiers apart.
**Adjust numbers as per your own experience.
Oh yeah matchmaking seems broken for me, got experience oppo got a good squad on s1 while im only got 2 5* and rest 3* on bronze 3 
 
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Re: The new event quests are crazy

Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:17 pm

I'm here don't have a strong team and guess what?
Don't tell me I have more than 500 arena orb on 21 days
You don't play this game while you sleep, already have a job or still studying, how about eat, spend time for my life and things?
Another fool who demands to be have the same achievements as those who spend more time playing without spending a dime.
LoL maybe we have the same goal but with me it won't and will never be important than the other things
I want 250 gems but won't left all behind just for it
Don't tell me if they change it to 50 wins you will say that is too easy and you want is harder
Not on the same boat but I'm firing on where your gun pointing duh
From my readings of the previous posts, the situation seems to be as follows:

1. 100 Arena Wins are necessary.
2. Arena energy is provided at 1 per hour.
3. The event lasts for 3 weeks. 

100 Wins / 3 weeks = Roughly 34 wins per week. Broken down on a per day basis, this generally means at least 5 wins per day. If matchmaking is working, then a 50%* win rate should mean 10 matches per day to complete this achievement. I'm not sure how long an arena match takes as I'm not in the game, but if we presume 5mins** per match, thats equivalent to 50minutes per day of arena battling. This time requirement will go up/down depending on your relative success.

I guess there are 2 questions at the end of the day around this:

1. Is a potential average of 50minutes extra per day a reasonable amount of play for this achievement
and 
2. What is the actual aim of this achievement? - is it to encourage more people to participate in arena, or is it to reward people who are skilled/persistent in arena (Essentially, is time in arena the goal or actual outcomes). 

Personally, I think 50 minutes seems fine. Provided that your ELO also gets adjusted in some way for every loss, it should allow for a suitable playing environment for the majority of players. 

*As CBT numbers are low, I'm probably guessing matchmaking isn't working that great, as there would be fewer players participating to spread the tiers apart.
**Adjust numbers as per your own experience.
Got bad luck rolling with a pys attack team
Two 4* mage or one 5* mage = I'm done
Welp, maybe I'm wrong but 5 wins each day is worth trying btw
 
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Re: The new event quests are crazy

Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:10 pm

CBT is bad enough? its not that bad, CBT is for testing the game and bug-fixing thing. Secondly, I did not spend loads of money, just the early bird and the per month subscription, and yet I dont feel like im not going to catch up, beside I intend to play it for fun, not for competition. Maybe the mindset of players need to change, maybe?
I agree with Empyrean.. 
CBT supposed to be testing game and bug fixing, it's the time where the Valiant Force is being introduced to us and how to gameplay works and etc .. The reason is to prevent people get shocked with the gameplay or maybe the quest and something(?) I dunno why some of you make it like it was a bad thing to have hard quest or tough, usually do people find it challenging?

Since when (some) gamers nowadays whining over difficult quest?
I thought we play for fun, we play for something new, we play for something different that any other mobile games.
They are so many people didn't get to play this game (didn't get invitation) or even iOS user has to wait till official launch..

and FYI again, it's still CBT.. 
have a thought, what if, what if the game official launch sooner like you guys want and then there;s so many bugs, error happen everytime, maintenance everytime, wouldn't you guys be more disappointed than ever? or have you ever been that situation? bcos I have, I played an early released game and until now, they still have some kind trouble with similar bugs (name is being censored)

lastly, I know Arena is very hard! so hard that I feel I want to stop wasting my Gold to upgrade my heroes and continue doing quest, but the FUN lies in Arena too.. Because you know how GG other team and what strategy did or whom we play with. But I don't complain if they have to make me win 100 times arena, I just have to play it and if I failed there is another chance with another achievement.. 

My words maybe harsh , or mostly you will only skip the good one and assuming the bad one.. 
so I may don't know what you guys' problem is but I hope you guys try to enjoy the game even more!! :))
 
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Re: The new event quests are crazy

Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:08 pm

CBT is bad enough? its not that bad, CBT is for testing the game and bug-fixing thing. Secondly, I did not spend loads of money, just the early bird and the per month subscription, and yet I dont feel like im not going to catch up, beside I intend to play it for fun, not for competition. Maybe the mindset of players need to change, maybe?
lastly, I know Arena is very hard! so hard that I feel I want to stop wasting my Gold to upgrade my heroes and continue doing quest, but the FUN lies in Arena too.. Because you know how GG other team and what strategy did or whom we play with. But I don't complain if they have to make me win 100 times arena, I just have to play it and if I failed there is another chance with another achievement.. 
 
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Re: The new event quests are crazy

Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:22 am

Arena energy is given at 1/hr. u got 3wks. 21days x 24hrs = 504.

u got 504 tries and u cant event get 100? i highly doubt tat...
This is a pretty hilarious calculation. Perhaps you are not normal since you don't sleep or eat :)
 
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Re: The new event quests are crazy

Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:25 am

What I don't understand is why are you guys(newbies) expecting to be on par to people who've been playing this game much earlier.

It is like complaining when a guy on WoW who played the game for 10,000 hours and you just started and you complain why is he so strong and beats the hell out of you in PvP and starts sending ticket to blizz about being unfair etc..

There is No game, whether whale(cash spenders) or not, that will expect you to accomplish everything/all achievement within 5hours or 5days of playing.

Even Free players are able to be on par with cash spenders if they have played more hours than the cash spender.
They would have the knowledge where to farm, what to min-max in building and LEVELS.

Please before you moan about stuff being too hard, play it first. The event achievements are meant for both newbies and vets, it's just some of those achievements are supposed to give a challenge to older players.

If there is no hard challenge nobody would play the game longer than 1 week. 

By the way Cash Players usually have no time to play the game due to work that is why they spend Cash.
Free to Play Player have a ton of Time, maybe due to being a student etc, they can catch up by just spending more time. 
Interested to know where you get the stats where usually people who have no time to play is due to work that's why they spend cash.

WoW is an extremely different game. You need to pay monthly subscription for it. It's not free :)
 
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Re: The new event quests are crazy

Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:34 am

What I don't understand is why are you guys(newbies) expecting to be on par to people who've been playing this game much earlier.

It is like complaining when a guy on WoW who played the game for 10,000 hours and you just started and you complain why is he so strong and beats the hell out of you in PvP and starts sending ticket to blizz about being unfair etc..

There is No game, whether whale(cash spenders) or not, that will expect you to accomplish everything/all achievement within 5hours or 5days of playing.

Even Free players are able to be on par with cash spenders if they have played more hours than the cash spender.
They would have the knowledge where to farm, what to min-max in building and LEVELS.

Please before you moan about stuff being too hard, play it first. The event achievements are meant for both newbies and vets, it's just some of those achievements are supposed to give a challenge to older players.

If there is no hard challenge nobody would play the game longer than 1 week. 

By the way Cash Players usually have no time to play the game due to work that is why they spend Cash.
Free to Play Player have a ton of Time, maybe due to being a student etc, they can catch up by just spending more time. 
Interested to know where you get the stats where usually people who have no time to play is due to work that's why they spend cash.

WoW is an extremely different game. You need to pay monthly subscription for it. It's not free :)
So i guess you havent been invited to play cbt because apparently you dont know who mixa is. He/she is one of the top 10 players here in cbt including me and so it didnt cross your mind that he/she is speaking for him/herself? Oh and i guess you also dont know how much he/she has already spent on this game? Before you post something here make sure you know the person you are quoting and understand the meaning of their post because it seems to me that your comment here is utter non sense.
For those whinners and alike did you kmow that there is a serious flaw the way that ai works in arena? im currently at presige level 4 and level 65 and currently one of the top 10 in arena. So for new players and those that are not playing vf top 20 players here more or less has 5* equipment full set +15. Me what im using 3 to 4* + 12 max and i can wipe  most of the top 20 players with perfect rating. If the games is too easy will you still play this game? Is it gonna be fun to play a game that is too easy? It a matter of finding ways, using the resources that you have limited or not. I have only spent a more or less $50 in this game because im still waiting for the official launch and see if thing will work out well for vf because right now my honest opinion is, for you  to be competitve in this game it will take alot of money or if you dont plan on spending a ridiculous amount of time is needed. So im currently at rank master1 right now and cystal ranked players can still beat me due to the huge gap in equipments so if i got my ass handed to me in arena i dont whine because i know the gap that equipment makes in this game.
 
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Re: The new event quests are crazy

Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:06 am

People stop whinning and start grinding.
 
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Re: The new event quests are crazy

Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:39 pm

Start learning how to paragraph before posting.
 
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Re: The new event quests are crazy

Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:14 pm

Start learning how to paragraph before posting.
Wow haha i cant believe how dumb or how low your IQ is hahaha. How you consturct your reasoning is beyond comprehension hahaha.