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Re: 9200 gem summons! To XII Braves/RNGesus, I am watching you.

Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:32 pm

spent 2k gems on this event summon.
the first, second, third and fourth 10x pulls only got fodders (no 5* potential)
got faye and victoria on the fifth 10x pull though

worst event summon ever!!!
Spent more than 4K before I got my first Ronan. Can totally feel you man. Ya,as seen from the video, mine too had a few where there were no 5* potentials at all. Very disappointing. 
 
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Re: 9200 gem summons! To XII Braves/RNGesus, I am watching you.

Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:50 pm

As disappointing and painful as it is, i believe it's all down to RNG. I mean, my previous events pull were bad but for this event i did one 10x summon and got ronan and teresa. 
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:08 pm

As disappointing and painful as it is, i believe it's all down to RNG. I mean, my previous events pull were bad but for this event i did one 10x summon and got ronan and teresa. 
Perhaps it is, we should be able to tell from a larger sample size. A coin will always show 50/50 the closer it gets to infinity.
 
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Re: 9200 gem summons! To XII Braves/RNGesus, I am watching you.

Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:38 pm

While I do agree that the 5* potential rate is around 10% and your post results shows that too, we should still take this thread as biased. It's such a small poll, I saw some people posting some time ago on a collaborative effort, and even then, with low data we can't assume anything, so, please, have precautions when making assumptions 

Besides, we can't only compare your results from time to time as all Mobile Companies keeps changing their summon rates from time to time, be it for an event or a promotion of some sort.

Maybe it's best to make a community effort again, and even then it's hard to take it all without any bias, some people like to post good results while some others only like to post bad results.
 
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:19 am

to tell you the truth i don't even believe VALIANT FORCE and all its representatives, trolls, uploaders or speakers when they say "INCREASED SUMMON RATES" because it's all bulls*it blaming rngesus is also a COWARDLY EXCUSE for them to make, thanks for sharing this video, oh yeah and i don't even get my hopes up anymore when summoning. (like meh whatever, playing this game is like GETTING STUCKED ON A FAILED RELATIONSHIP OR MARRIAGE OR GETTING YOUR GF PREGNANT with no support from your friends and families anyway.)
 
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Re: 9200 gem summons! To XII Braves/RNGesus, I am watching you.

Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:23 am

As disappointing and painful as it is, i believe it's all down to RNG. I mean, my previous events pull were bad but for this event i did one 10x summon and got ronan and teresa. 
no such thing as RNG, the devs or brainwashed players are just using this excuse when in fact the summoning pool and it's rates are RIGGED anyway.

Ex.

Today = after 100 times of summoning has occurred the event heroes will be summoned immediately like maybe one or two will be given as the quota for 100 times summon has been reached, so next 200 pulls, and it goes on and on and on. (WAKE UP PEOPLE)
 
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:15 am

9200 gems is a lot..
Maybe system have rush detection, more summon meaning less rate..
I'm just guessing..

Actually I've only do 1x premium summon but only trash inside..
Another day I try solo summon 5x times, I've got Ronan Athena and Kai Ares..
Hi, I did not open all 9200 gems worth of summons one shot. Rather, I did one every single day and recorded it over 14 days. 
Ooh, sorry -I missed that one..
Okay, some people luck and some people don't..
Luckily they have new system that will make every unlucky player feel better..
 
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Re: 9200 gem summons! To XII Braves/RNGesus, I am watching you.

Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:19 am

As disappointing and painful as it is, i believe it's all down to RNG. I mean, my previous events pull were bad but for this event i did one 10x summon and got ronan and teresa. 
no such thing as RNG, the devs or brainwashed players are just using this excuse when in fact the summoning pool and it's rates are RIGGED anyway.

Ex.

Today = after 100 times of summoning has occurred the event heroes will be summoned immediately like maybe one or two will be given as the quota for 100 times summon has been reached, so next 200 pulls, and it goes on and on and on. (WAKE UP PEOPLE)
Hi there,

Please refrain from spreading rumors. As previously mentioned, every roll is purely RNG, and currently there is no system where the more you roll, the more chance of getting a 5* card.

The team takes the spreading of false rumors very seriously. Thank you.
 
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Re: 9200 gem summons! To XII Braves/RNGesus, I am watching you.

Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:20 am

While I do agree that the 5* potential rate is around 10% and your post results shows that too, we should still take this thread as biased. It's such a small poll, I saw some people posting some time ago on a collaborative effort, and even then, with low data we can't assume anything, so, please, have precautions when making assumptions 

Besides, we can't only compare your results from time to time as all Mobile Companies keeps changing their summon rates from time to time, be it for an event or a promotion of some sort.

Maybe it's best to make a community effort again, and even then it's hard to take it all without any bias, some people like to post good results while some others only like to post bad results.
I agree that the current results are perhaps very inaccurate. However, this is just the beginning. Let's say that for the next event of perhaps 14 days, I do another 14 draws. That could up the sample size to 280. 

However, like you mentioned, perhaps with each event, the rates change. Well, to that, all I have to say is we will have to see about that. I mean if I consistently get a 1.3% new event summon rate for the next 2 events, we can maybe, just maybe assume that we are on the right track. Once is an incident, twice a coincidence, third time is a pattern. Worst come to worst, the draws between each event vary a lot and we will just settle for an inconclusive result. Looking forward to the draws of the next event. Stay tuned! 
 
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Re: 9200 gem summons! To XII Braves/RNGesus, I am watching you.

Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:29 am

As disappointing and painful as it is, i believe it's all down to RNG. I mean, my previous events pull were bad but for this event i did one 10x summon and got ronan and teresa. 
no such thing as RNG, the devs or brainwashed players are just using this excuse when in fact the summoning pool and it's rates are RIGGED anyway.

Ex.

Today = after 100 times of summoning has occurred the event heroes will be summoned immediately like maybe one or two will be given as the quota for 100 times summon has been reached, so next 200 pulls, and it goes on and on and on. (WAKE UP PEOPLE)
Hi there,

Please refrain from spreading rumors. As previously mentioned, every roll is purely RNG, and currently there is no system where the more you roll, the more chance of getting a 5* card.

The team takes the spreading of false rumors very seriously. Thank you.
Wow a moderator commented on my post.

By the way, I am not sure why but my post seems to be both in the Feedback and Suggestions as well as General Chat at the same time. Also, it seems that any further comments do not bump the post up the top of the list. Could you help me with that please? I already reported it but it doesn't seem to be fixed. 

Lastly, any comments with regards to releasing gatcha rates? 

Thanks for taking notice of my post.  It's an honor.