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LOL seriously the developer need to do something about this
the summoner are super OP right now.
i really think the summoner need to be nerf to be balanced 
few of my friend retired thanks to the summoner they keep facing in the arena
now with sven this game really going downhill somehow
the dragon it summoned can easily kill after being summonned like WTF
please fix this shit and bring back old good VF

At this rate, all players will end up with at least 3 summoners or 4. And the title will be 'Summoners Force'.

Well I hope you guys already think of the counter heroes for the summoners. Heroes balancing is what makes all game interesting.

No doubts, having summoners in your team give you a extra turn. But i don't think there is a problem if your squad is using a decent eq. / runes. The skills from Talissa itself doesn't hurt as much as a normal Mystic would do. If you move and attack ur squad properly, whenever summoner summon will just give them a 1 turn window and does not give them a auto win. You have units with 4 turn cd silence / stuns / sleeps to play with them.

Did you actually read Topic Creator's opinion or my comment?
In my rank, usually Master 3 (4900 - 5100) -Talissa's skill deal Poison Damage to my team and left them with 60%-80% HP..
Her pet also dealing more Poison in the next turn each time it attack..
And because my opponent have 1 ekstra Turn, Ronan in their back row ready to melt my team with his missile and they don't even give my Faye a chance to use her skill even though she have shorter CD!

You cannot Kill Talissa easily because in Master 3 and above, Talissa and Ronan are well guarded by Aden and/or Lucille Inquisitor..
Both give them MAG and DEF buff..
Ronan RM himself have aura to Buff MAG and DEF to everyone in his Aura..
Now give me an idea how to kill this sick Party?
Even if you have 13K Vincent Berserker, all Hero's skill is based on MAG Damage and you cannot easily OHKO MAG Specialist with MAG Damage!

Archers?
No you cannot, most of my Guild mate have OP Archers team..
They usually stay in Champion Rank and after the META shifted, they started to change their team with this Summoners because they knew Archers Team is obsolete already!

No doubts, having summoners in your team give you a extra turn. But i don't think there is a problem if your squad is using a decent eq. / runes. The skills from Talissa itself doesn't hurt as much as a normal Mystic would do. If you move and attack ur squad properly, whenever summoner summon will just give them a 1 turn window and does not give them a auto win. You have units with 4 turn cd silence / stuns / sleeps to play with them.

No offense meant in asking this, but what is your arena ranking?

Try fighting Emperor for example in PvP as mentioned above. I just saw had my Faye with 9k DEF got killed by his Wyvern in a SINGLE turn. I haven't even started with Talissa yet.

Expert 2, play this game for 2 month+. Just kill his Wyvern with ur dps unit 1st?

Lol yuutaro sorry doesn't work with emperor's team - u will understand if u meet his team one day. But honestly emperor is a bad example cos his team is op even without sven in front. Ironically my win rate against him is better now with talissa in my team.

I think it's a bit too early to pass judgment on Summoners in pvp. Gotta let the meta settle a bit more first as team formations ares still changing week by week. My main gripe instead is how unvaliant the valiants are. For example Keira. Totally useless for a very long time now.

Lol just killed a triple summoner team, Double Talissa, Sven, Kain and Faye. My team was Double Faye, MB Izumi, MW Ronan and AB Luthor.

Basically the Berserker summoned his wyvern and I hit it with a Haunting Scripture causing it to OHKO one of the Talissas lolol. You heard it here folks Izumi new meta, the cure to triple summoner. MW Ronan is also always good against heroes with powerful skills.

The Fayes were also really cute. My Faye would cast Righteous Rebuke then enemy Faye would cast Heart of the Fortress then my other Faye would cast Heart of the Fortress...

But yeah if it's just double Talissa I tend to get owned.

Lol just killed a triple summoner team, Double Talissa, Sven, Kain and Faye. My team was Double Faye, MB Izumi, MW Ronan and AB Luthor.

Basically the Berserker summoned his wyvern and I hit it with a Haunting Scripture causing it to OHKO one of the Talissas lolol. You heard it here folks Izumi new meta, the cure to triple summoner. MW Ronan is also always good against heroes with powerful skills.

The Fayes were also really cute. My Faye would cast Righteous Rebuke then enemy Faye would cast Heart of the Fortress then my other Faye would cast Heart of the Fortress...

add him as friend, run 100 mock battle, then we will see you lol-ed again, please~
the thing is how summoner heroes affect this whole turn-base game, not 'lol i won cuz my skill one shot the cute dragon.'
But is quite good to see your faye and faye vs faye and summoner team, so is Faye really a straight counter to summoner? not sure yet.

Lol just killed a triple summoner team, Double Talissa, Sven, Kain and Faye. My team was Double Faye, MB Izumi, MW Ronan and AB Luthor.

Basically the Berserker summoned his wyvern and I hit it with a Haunting Scripture causing it to OHKO one of the Talissas lolol. You heard it here folks Izumi new meta, the cure to triple summoner. MW Ronan is also always good against heroes with powerful skills.

The Fayes were also really cute. My Faye would cast Righteous Rebuke then enemy Faye would cast Heart of the Fortress then my other Faye would cast Heart of the Fortress...

That team is off a bit.

Just read Munilet's reply lol. You'll know and feel it when you are constantly in the top 50.

Just kidding guys. I know it was super luck that his wyvern took out a Talissa. Often times I don't get so lucky.

Still that battle was so hilarious I just had to brag a little about it.

No offense meant in asking this, but what is your arena ranking?

Try fighting Emperor for example in PvP as mentioned above. I just saw had my Faye with 9k DEF got killed by his Wyvern in a SINGLE turn. I haven't even started with Talissa yet.

Expert 2, play this game for 2 month+. Just kill his Wyvern with ur dps unit 1st?

I think it's a bit too early to pass judgment on Summoners in pvp. Gotta let the meta settle a bit more first as team formations ares still changing week by week.

So, let those 2-4cd OP skills rot for a while in arena while some players quit because of that. Pretty neat, huh?