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yes so means it has not reached the point it is only for whales right? He still has equal chance at the ladder by being able to play at the same stage (of course not withstanding those outlandish super high paying whales) 

If you actually read her post, she wasn't complaining about competing in ladder.

so it is a must to complete trial 2?

just fyi, tower solo version lvl 30 with that megaboss luthor, i did not even managed to complete trial 1 even with my 2 miu team. Was twin tower miu's event? Yes it is rightfully Miu's very important major event. Hell I had 7 mius from summon and i cannot even complete it, i just took it that my team is not good enough and never even thought it was a must to clear it even when i paid quite alot for those mius. It was just a challenge in game that i found i could not meet and just left it as that and not complain that I must clear it cos i paid damn lot for the mius which is not even applicable here as he clearly can even clear trial 1 and mean it was not beyond him to play at this high level.

That was when all credits to Mikan, he can complete trial 3 with no miu but with his SDD team. So congrats to him which i did congrats him too when he posted on completing trial 3 with no miu.

Same here, why must only talissa be focused on if there is just a trial which is not suitable for her (It is only trial 2 btw, trial 3 allows skills to be used). Other people can clear without talissa as main point. He happened to have his SDD team at that moment in time which credit to him, he thought of a way to clear it without miu so why now it has to be only talissa?  

1. Mikan doesn't have talissa. Mikan was making a point that the trial design is counter intuitive and lazy.
2. Did anyone clear this trial yet?
3. Your post just admit that you think Mikan is a good player for thinking up strategy to do challenging map, yet you're also saying she shouldn't expect to clear this trial because she doesn't pay. She doesn't need to pay. She play the game long enough to have runes/equipment just as strong as any top arena players. 
4. Your post is focusing on the wrong aspect. Referring to my point 1, Mikan complains that the design for the trial is bad not that she can't clear it herself.
Here's the quote in case you miss it: 

EVENTS
Now we have Sentinel Covenant. Luckily, my SDD team build is able to do master easily but WOW, then came trial 2. Trial 2 requires me to not use any skills, jesus christ, just how bad are the game designers of this game? They cannot think of a proper implementation of increased difficulty but instead would just give these no-skill bullcrap. Funny thing is how Talissa, the main event hero, who is a summoner, cannot even do her own specialty which is summoning a pet because of this trial. Well designed! I can't wait for the next event where master trial 2 is 4* hero only!

Hi Mikan..
Do not leave this game..
Please..

If you actually read her post, she wasn't complaining about competing in ladder.

so it is a must to complete trial 2?

just fyi, tower solo version lvl 30 with that megaboss luthor, i did not even managed to complete trial 1 even with my 2 miu team. Was twin tower miu's event? Yes it is rightfully Miu's very important major event. Hell I had 7 mius from summon and i cannot even complete it, i just took it that my team is not good enough and never even thought it was a must to clear it even when i paid quite alot for those mius. It was just a challenge in game that i found i could not meet and just left it as that and not complain that I must clear it cos i paid damn lot for the mius which is not even applicable here as he clearly can even clear trial 1 and mean it was not beyond him to play at this high level.

That was when all credits to Mikan, he can complete trial 3 with no miu but with his SDD team. So congrats to him which i did congrats him too when he posted on completing trial 3 with no miu.

Same here, why must only talissa be focused on if there is just a trial which is not suitable for her (It is only trial 2 btw, trial 3 allows skills to be used). Other people can clear without talissa as main point. He happened to have his SDD team at that moment in time which credit to him, he thought of a way to clear it without miu so why now it has to be only talissa?  

1. Mikan doesn't have talissa. Mikan was making a point that the trial design is counter intuitive and lazy.
2. Did anyone clear this trial yet?
3. Your post just admit that you think Mikan is a good player for thinking up strategy to do challenging map, yet you're also saying she shouldn't expect to clear this trial because she doesn't pay. She doesn't need to pay. She play the game long enough to have runes/equipment just as strong as any top arena players. 
4. Your post is focusing on the wrong aspect. Referring to my point 1, Mikan complains that the design for the trial is bad not that she can't clear it herself.
Here's the quote in case you miss it: 

1) Precisely my point, Mikan thinks SDD is the one and best strategy, if SDD cannot clear it means the game is flawed.
2)Archer trigger squad can be used to clear it
3) Who the hell said that, i said that it is a game and if there is something that is not able to be cleared at the moment, to take it that just not meant to be cleared. Even if i paid but cannot clear it, it is just a game, why is there a need to clear everything? Ego?

so it is a must to complete trial 2?

just fyi, tower solo version lvl 30 with that megaboss luthor, i did not even managed to complete trial 1 even with my 2 miu team. Was twin tower miu's event? Yes it is rightfully Miu's very important major event. Hell I had 7 mius from summon and i cannot even complete it, i just took it that my team is not good enough and never even thought it was a must to clear it even when i paid quite alot for those mius. It was just a challenge in game that i found i could not meet and just left it as that and not complain that I must clear it cos i paid damn lot for the mius which is not even applicable here as he clearly can even clear trial 1 and mean it was not beyond him to play at this high level.

That was when all credits to Mikan, he can complete trial 3 with no miu but with his SDD team. So congrats to him which i did congrats him too when he posted on completing trial 3 with no miu.

Same here, why must only talissa be focused on if there is just a trial which is not suitable for her (It is only trial 2 btw, trial 3 allows skills to be used). Other people can clear without talissa as main point. He happened to have his SDD team at that moment in time which credit to him, he thought of a way to clear it without miu so why now it has to be only talissa?  

1. Mikan doesn't have talissa. Mikan was making a point that the trial design is counter intuitive and lazy.
2. Did anyone clear this trial yet?
3. Your post just admit that you think Mikan is a good player for thinking up strategy to do challenging map, yet you're also saying she shouldn't expect to clear this trial because she doesn't pay. She doesn't need to pay. She play the game long enough to have runes/equipment just as strong as any top arena players. 
4. Your post is focusing on the wrong aspect. Referring to my point 1, Mikan complains that the design for the trial is bad not that she can't clear it herself.
Here's the quote in case you miss it: 

1) Precisely my point, Mikan thinks SDD is the one and best strategy, if SDD cannot clear it means the game is flawed.
2)Archer trigger squad can be used to clear it
3) Who the hell said that, i said that it is a game and if there is something that is not able to be cleared at the moment, to take it that just not meant to be cleared. Even if i paid but cannot clear it, it is just a game, why is there a need to clear everything? Ego?

1. Mikan definitely doesn't think SDD is THE one and best strategy. It's an alternative to the infinite archer team that she and many others have voice opinion against (which she has addressed in her post). Of course if there's a better strategy that doesn't involve the boring 5 archer team, she'll use it (but I wonder if there's a better one?). 
2. Did anyone clear it? And oh boy archer squad? What a creative way to design a trial. /s
3. Why is there a need to clear everything? Why make a game that players can't clear? What kind of genius dev have that time to make content that isn't cater to players? What kind of players don't want to challenge themselves to beat extremely hard map? 
Rhetorical question aside, it's not ego but simply someone who want to clear the game content especially when the content is time limited. But of course, sure let's follow your rhetoric, so now she don't need to clear the trial, in fact, she'll quit the game so she doesn't have to bother with playing the game at all. After all, only an egoistical person try to play the game xD.
p/s: what with the inferiority complex toward mikan? She was originally not going to share her strat outside of her guild but she choose to to share with people and it has help a lot of people. All you display in your post is aggression because she somehow takes pride in the strat she comes up with.

Awww Mikan pls don't leave. Your posts help me a lot

so it is a must to complete trial 2?

just fyi, tower solo version lvl 30 with that megaboss luthor, i did not even managed to complete trial 1 even with my 2 miu team. Was twin tower miu's event? Yes it is rightfully Miu's very important major event. Hell I had 7 mius from summon and i cannot even complete it, i just took it that my team is not good enough and never even thought it was a must to clear it even when i paid quite alot for those mius. It was just a challenge in game that i found i could not meet and just left it as that and not complain that I must clear it cos i paid damn lot for the mius which is not even applicable here as he clearly can even clear trial 1 and mean it was not beyond him to play at this high level.

That was when all credits to Mikan, he can complete trial 3 with no miu but with his SDD team. So congrats to him which i did congrats him too when he posted on completing trial 3 with no miu.

Same here, why must only talissa be focused on if there is just a trial which is not suitable for her (It is only trial 2 btw, trial 3 allows skills to be used). Other people can clear without talissa as main point. He happened to have his SDD team at that moment in time which credit to him, he thought of a way to clear it without miu so why now it has to be only talissa?  

1. Mikan doesn't have talissa. Mikan was making a point that the trial design is counter intuitive and lazy.
2. Did anyone clear this trial yet?
3. Your post just admit that you think Mikan is a good player for thinking up strategy to do challenging map, yet you're also saying she shouldn't expect to clear this trial because she doesn't pay. She doesn't need to pay. She play the game long enough to have runes/equipment just as strong as any top arena players. 
4. Your post is focusing on the wrong aspect. Referring to my point 1, Mikan complains that the design for the trial is bad not that she can't clear it herself.
Here's the quote in case you miss it: 

1) Precisely my point, Mikan thinks SDD is the one and best strategy, if SDD cannot clear it means the game is flawed.
2)Archer trigger squad can be used to clear it
3) Who the hell said that, i said that it is a game and if there is something that is not able to be cleared at the moment, to take it that just not meant to be cleared. Even if i paid but cannot clear it, it is just a game, why is there a need to clear everything? Ego?

Well pretty sure archer team can clean every quest right now

Awww.mikan i feel you man, 10/10 they should fire the guild raid designer... I feel like vf is made for archer team, hail archer team~

I have to agree that the introduction of master is interesting and it's really indicating that it's for each gamers with all 6 * equipment.  Darkness is already very tough and now with trial 2 in this form,  I was shocked.
Even with a squad of 3 talissa, I still thinking how an event hero like her mystic cannot use her skill in trial 2. If shadow or champion, maybe different,  but a mystic use her mag to kill.  Without her skill,  it's like asking her to go for ares faith for trial 2

So events should only use event hero if it makes no sense? Precisely the developers want to challenge you to think outside of event heros... Ever thought that a archer trigger squad is the way to go for no skill to be used? By now there should be already many people who cleared trial 2 and if you are only stuck in the thinking that have to use talissa then prehaps you are not up to the standard required for challenging this.

Hmm thinking out of the box... Nah be like more using the same team ti conquer the game over n over