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I support this petition 100%. I believe nerf should really be on the way. Ranger trigger team just way too overpowered. It's no wonder why most players who are in the top 10 or top 100 arena utilize this kind of lineup. It just takes a away the fun of having a kind of diverse lineup to compete in the arena.

Option 4.

To me.. it's not just same class. But more on same character.

Imagine in real life combat, you see 3 of yourself in field. That's boring.

In short, limit to 1 char of same name per team. This will make people think of the team line up base on different characters.

I've never seen any other game with this "Trigger" mechanic, I love it, it's make the game combat more dynamic and amusing to watch than boring 1 attacks.

Like, If you can win in the same way, do you guys have more fun with full tanks team or full trigger team..? 3 tank frontline is really boring to me.. add a Lucille and you get boring arena game.

No. whatever you do, do not nerf any of the class, instead create new ones to counter these skills. I've been building my trigger team for a while and now you're saying nerf it?? might as well nerf all the classes as well ea: nerf stupid huge damage from berserker to 50% in arena, nerf Ronan stupidly huge attack and skill delay how does that make you feel? Are you saying it's easy to create a trigger team? i only have 2 valiant and thats 2 KANE and now you're saying you want to nerf it? YES nerf it and give all the owner of KANE, CYBELLA a new valiant/hero with proper faith

I feel you. It would be too unfair to nerf archer too much as it took much effort and resources to create such team. However, to limit trigger rate just in arena, I think it is fair enough, or maybe create new system like team aura. "Increase defend against archer 20% but reduce attack power by 20%" Something like than would be fun and fair to all player. Make it like new set of equipment for the team to use to add some bonus effect to the team.

What are you people? Dumb?

What about the people that just starts the game? Or free player that hasnt got any luck on summoning? Since the summoning is RNG, who can tell if they will have different classes of heroes?

So if they only have like 5 heroes consisting of 3 vincents and 2 theresas, they cant play arena? You gotta be fucking with me.

I remember back then I started with 4 vincents and 1 theresa.

The best is either nerf their trigger chance, or lower their atk percentage upon trigger.

Smh these people.

Classes: Champion, Shadow, Guardian, Archer, Mystic

Job: Grand Ranger, Gunslinger, Berserker, Samurai, etc

One more thing, the poll is rigged. THESE ARE NOT THE ONLY SOLUTIONS, THERE ARE OTHER TONS. We might just havent think about it.

>Noticed 3 outta 5 choices are the shit that me and some people posted on some other threads.

Or maybe they can use character with *3/*4 max for starter instead. There's a thing called progress you know. I also used that kind of lineups on my early arena days and I still meet ppl who use max LB leon, luna, winry, vaan on master tier.

IMO, it's not that hard to find units with different class. But finding *5 units with different class, yes that's a different story.
But that's where the strategy aspect of this game plays out. You need to utilize your available resources. And that way, newbie will be more focused to improve their current heroes before stepping on the Arena while waiting to get their lineups ready.

I also use hero like Dante Leon and Theia till Silver rank during early days. Heck, one of my friend even used *2 Boar creep to fill his champion slot. And now we managed to reach master tier just fine without using the same class on our lineups. And i believe the rng needed to get at least *4 units with 5 different class is not as bad as you implied in the first place.

Addition:
Warlord and any archer class + magebane can still be utilized for trigger combo. The newly added Drake and any DPS healer can also be used for trigger. There's so many aura and passive to be experimented upon. And i'll remind you again, this is strategy game if you find it hard to play strategy games. Try 7K, no need to to think a lot, just follow the same unit as the top tiers and you'll reach the top in no time

Oh and FYI i personally won against almost every vincent zerk user on arena. So that's that.

IMO, it's not that hard to find units with different class. But finding *5 units with different class, yes that's a different story.
But that's where the strategy aspect of this game plays out. You need to utilize your available resources. And that way, newbie will be more focused to improve their current heroes before stepping on the Arena while waiting to get their lineups ready.

I also use hero like Dante Leon and Theia till Silver rank during early days. Heck, one of my friend even used *2 Boar creep to fill his champion slot. And now we managed to reach master tier just fine without using the same class on our lineups. And i believe the rng needed to get at least *4 units with 5 different class is not as bad as you implied in the first place.

Lets take an example shall we.

A person has 2 cybellas, a kane, a vincent, and a shizu.

But you cant use the same classes.

So the only heroes eligible are 1 bella/kane, 1 vincent, and 1 shizu.

If that person were to use the best of his resource he can reach top 20 easily. But since theres a restriction. He can only use his vincent, shizu and his bella or kane.

He doesnt have anything else other than those heroes besides some trash *3/*4.

Because of that he can only get to top 100.

Now. You see my point? He has the resource but the system hold him back.

So unless youre lucky with having different classes, people that spends will be having a lot greater advantage (since they will be having more chances on having different classes of heroes) than our situation now.

ALL TO NERF ARCHER.

And shortly after people will ask to release the restriction cause of how stupid it is in the first place

addition:

Impractical combo, 30% chance wl + 75% chance mb, good luck. Not to mention wl's skill to pull is useless considering you can 1 shot with zerk's skill, also the crazy buff AND the buff he gives to other heroes on his aura.

Btw nice job on winning against zerk AI, they really shows how zerk is utilized.

Accidental double post.