Anyone noticed we have zero defence centric Guardian event hero till now?
We have 3 shadow (miu, izumi, seraphina), 1 healer (kahuna), 2 HP centric tank (aden and faye), 3 champions (drake,silvia and leah), 2 mages (ronan and talissa) and 2 archers (winfry and nadia)
but totally 0 defense based Guardian event hero?
Defense is now totally outclassed, no one is even using defensed based hero seriously now as even their taunt can be resisted easily or if people are using tanks, it is the HP versions of faye and aden. The last time i even used a defense based hero was over 3 months ago (using victoria CK in tower). Aden BK has even way overtaken darrion HD as the best aura defender given from his higher HP centric stat.
Defense based stewards like Darrion Blood knight, Darrion Holy defender or the Victoria versions are now totally way outclassed that few people even use them anymore. This is especially when Darrion is supposed to be the best defender.....now he is like a 4* chicken lord compared to Aden
We need a hero with taunt that cannot be resisted and aura + defence higher then aden's HP version and it is way way overdue
Re: Defense centric Guardian Hero way overdue
Taunt should also comes with something like absorb 50% of damage to those around him as now bosses has high enough attk to even possibly1 hit those around the tank even if taunt work and the boss attack the tank but does area damage like the dark lord boss
If the absorb damage is not there, the taunt is like only partially useful and the tank is like not a tank compared to some other games with taunt where the tanks really absorb 50-70% of damages the party receives. Now the defense tanks in this game is almost like only protecting himself/herself but party wise defense is way limiting as even now for darrion HD, adding 3k defense to those around him is not alot since boss can have like 14.7k attk now.
An effective tank is very very important as it brings about diversity to party formations as with the tank doing his/her job well, other heros actually has a chance to perform. Without which, it is always about pure DPS or too reliant on certain parties like archer party or too heavily event heros reliant parties. If this carries on, players will get tired as they will feel they have to keep chasing the meta else they cannot clear the game content and it makes the game much more like a chore.
So this game is way way overdue for an effective tank to bring more diversity and bit more fun into it rather then now the only point is to keep chasing the meta.
If the absorb damage is not there, the taunt is like only partially useful and the tank is like not a tank compared to some other games with taunt where the tanks really absorb 50-70% of damages the party receives. Now the defense tanks in this game is almost like only protecting himself/herself but party wise defense is way limiting as even now for darrion HD, adding 3k defense to those around him is not alot since boss can have like 14.7k attk now.
An effective tank is very very important as it brings about diversity to party formations as with the tank doing his/her job well, other heros actually has a chance to perform. Without which, it is always about pure DPS or too reliant on certain parties like archer party or too heavily event heros reliant parties. If this carries on, players will get tired as they will feel they have to keep chasing the meta else they cannot clear the game content and it makes the game much more like a chore.
So this game is way way overdue for an effective tank to bring more diversity and bit more fun into it rather then now the only point is to keep chasing the meta.
Last edited by Tywin on Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:43 am, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Defense centric Guardian Hero way overdue
Truly.. If I pull another Faye.. I will also replace her with my Victoria in arena. My Victoria is only now a meat shield on the tile and sometime they just swap her and there she goes.. Useless.. 
I really like her and she helped me complete Legend. But other than that.. She got o room for events or pvp if there are, choices.
I been resisting myself to not buy Aden but he is a better tanker to be used in arena and t he only resistance is the valiant ticket and 6k token doesn't come easy for me.
I really like her and she helped me complete Legend. But other than that.. She got o room for events or pvp if there are, choices. I been resisting myself to not buy Aden but he is a better tanker to be used in arena and t he only resistance is the valiant ticket and 6k token doesn't come easy for me.
Re: Defense centric Guardian Hero way overdue
And to games developers, do you even know why till now all the events you have put out is considered boring compared to tower?
It is precisely in tower the tank actually has auto taunt and was an effective tank thus allowing players to have fun with their own set of selected heros who are actually able to perform when there was an effective tank around. All the events after that is like all for the purpose of chasing the meta and the fun factor due to being limited to lesser set of heros is brought way down.
If you are really listening and you want the game to survive longer, you need to make tanks effective again, they are now bloody useless and thus players who are tired of chasing the meta just choose to leave as the game is no longer fun. You need to make taunt that cannot be resisted as that is the only sole purpose of using a tank
It is precisely in tower the tank actually has auto taunt and was an effective tank thus allowing players to have fun with their own set of selected heros who are actually able to perform when there was an effective tank around. All the events after that is like all for the purpose of chasing the meta and the fun factor due to being limited to lesser set of heros is brought way down.
If you are really listening and you want the game to survive longer, you need to make tanks effective again, they are now bloody useless and thus players who are tired of chasing the meta just choose to leave as the game is no longer fun. You need to make taunt that cannot be resisted as that is the only sole purpose of using a tank
Re: Defense centric Guardian Hero way overdue
Yup i have many 3* Darrions sitting in my account and don't even bother to upgrade him...
Re: Defense centric Guardian Hero way overdue
Let me give you a very very good suggestion. Increase Leon to 5* and give him very very good defensive quality.
He is the main protagonist of the game and giving him only 4* till now is an extreme big injustice.
I am very sure you have heard this many many times, why is leon not 5*?
Almost 100% of the people playing are waiting for his 5* which is deservedly so. It is rightfully time for him to shine and bring the fun back into this game via a Hero that people can actually relate to the game story rather then some random new meta that pops out of nowhere and is claimed to be joining the fight when the main big hero is still a 4*
He is the main protagonist of the game and giving him only 4* till now is an extreme big injustice.
I am very sure you have heard this many many times, why is leon not 5*?
Almost 100% of the people playing are waiting for his 5* which is deservedly so. It is rightfully time for him to shine and bring the fun back into this game via a Hero that people can actually relate to the game story rather then some random new meta that pops out of nowhere and is claimed to be joining the fight when the main big hero is still a 4*
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Here is another suggestion.
Ok good, you have created a set of heirloom items that grows with the level and people looks forwards to upgrading it.
Now have the main protagonist grow with the story.
I grew up playing very interesting old school games starting with storybooks games like Lonewolf series etc and these storybooks games are so interesting as they have incorporated a good story together with the hero growing up together as the story progressed. People identify with the main hero and wishes to make him strong so they have the desire to carry on with the next book etc etc.
Now you have a game with the main protagonist like a 3rd rate hero that does not relates to how he is supposed to be the main story but is stagnant there, and each time the story comes up with leon chatting with the new meta hero makes it worst as it is a constant reminder that the main hero which people should look up to is actually a useless bum. It totally does not gel with the story, and your game thus has extremely poor storyline that does not sync with the main hero.
Develop a storyline for Leon where people knows that with each part of the storyline (new event) completed, Leon will grow stronger by a certain degree. This will be your heirloom system that is going to keep many players having something to look forward to the game as they the satisfaction of seeing a main character developing with the game is something that is totally missing now or even in most new age games which is all instant gratification.
You need a good story line that people can actually see it progress to continue this game, not just coming up with new heros via new random events that totally does not contribute to a progressing story which people are only going to be getting excited for 2 weeks then recycled with a new meta hero via another random event that players may not see how it will develop the story. Players get tired of this fast as it is only telling players that ok here is a new event, pay up cash to get it again and again.
Ok good, you have created a set of heirloom items that grows with the level and people looks forwards to upgrading it.
Now have the main protagonist grow with the story.
I grew up playing very interesting old school games starting with storybooks games like Lonewolf series etc and these storybooks games are so interesting as they have incorporated a good story together with the hero growing up together as the story progressed. People identify with the main hero and wishes to make him strong so they have the desire to carry on with the next book etc etc.
Now you have a game with the main protagonist like a 3rd rate hero that does not relates to how he is supposed to be the main story but is stagnant there, and each time the story comes up with leon chatting with the new meta hero makes it worst as it is a constant reminder that the main hero which people should look up to is actually a useless bum. It totally does not gel with the story, and your game thus has extremely poor storyline that does not sync with the main hero.
Develop a storyline for Leon where people knows that with each part of the storyline (new event) completed, Leon will grow stronger by a certain degree. This will be your heirloom system that is going to keep many players having something to look forward to the game as they the satisfaction of seeing a main character developing with the game is something that is totally missing now or even in most new age games which is all instant gratification.
You need a good story line that people can actually see it progress to continue this game, not just coming up with new heros via new random events that totally does not contribute to a progressing story which people are only going to be getting excited for 2 weeks then recycled with a new meta hero via another random event that players may not see how it will develop the story. Players get tired of this fast as it is only telling players that ok here is a new event, pay up cash to get it again and again.
Re: Defense centric Guardian Hero way overdue
Let's really hope that there are some changes. Currently I only see people using the same Heroes. No matter how I try to think of a way to incorporate other heroes into arena or event. They just don't cut it.
Like what's the point of putting Victoria in the event when the boss still hit your dps and take him down when you left with a tanker that cannot deal any damage to the boss.
Like what's the point of putting Victoria in the event when the boss still hit your dps and take him down when you left with a tanker that cannot deal any damage to the boss.
Re: Defense centric Guardian Hero way overdue
+1
Really good points about the game design, Tywin. Agree on the main protagonist, lack of usefulness of guardians/healers and how the tower event is still the best one overall (although I did enjoy the CNY event too... very generous with red packets, fit the festive occasion!).
Really good points about the game design, Tywin. Agree on the main protagonist, lack of usefulness of guardians/healers and how the tower event is still the best one overall (although I did enjoy the CNY event too... very generous with red packets, fit the festive occasion!).
Re: Defense centric Guardian Hero way overdue
Problem is not defense is worse than HP, it's the characters that use HP have way better skill.
Faye can shield WHOLE team with only 5 turns cooldown (plus buff removal or 40% Thorn), Aden has better aura and 80% HP nuke (that also has low cooldown) that can one shot almost any squishy shadow and archer.
Meanwhile only class that somewhat useful for Darrion and Victoria is Chaos Knight, both HD and Paladin skill is way shittier version of Faye and who use Blood Knight???
Faye can shield WHOLE team with only 5 turns cooldown (plus buff removal or 40% Thorn), Aden has better aura and 80% HP nuke (that also has low cooldown) that can one shot almost any squishy shadow and archer.
Meanwhile only class that somewhat useful for Darrion and Victoria is Chaos Knight, both HD and Paladin skill is way shittier version of Faye and who use Blood Knight???
