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Klifter
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Equipment Change

Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:10 pm

First of all, i dont know why suddenly vf dev decided to change the set equipment by seperating it. Not just seperate, some of the 4 set equipment becomes single equipment. I know its cbt, changes are bound to be made but there are better option to look at for changes.

If this is a way to close the gap between new and old, it really does rigged the old players team setup, if not all, most of the cbt players. If these are the point of the recent patch update, my suggestions are as follows:

1. Instead of equipment seperations. Make a 2 piece bonus peak and a 4 piece bonus peak for the set equipment or a 2 piece, 3 piece and a 4 piece bonus peak without breaking the 4 set equipment pieces.

my reasoning:
By doing so, new players can have the benefit from the set equipment bonus partially and in the same time rebalancing the differences between old players that use 4 piece set equipment. The old players that work to get the set equipment deserve it. But with this update, u are pulling the leg of the older players. i myself dont have a 4 piece set equipment yet with the patch, those equipment, let it be weapons or armors. From usefull becomes useless.

2. forging in weapons forge, make forge weapon from the same rarity and type of weapons will yield same but higher level of weapon.

Example:
Forging 1: 2 x 1* mystic staff = 100% 2* mystic staff

Forging 2: 1* ranger bow & 1* mystic staff = 50% chance 2* ranger bow and 50% chance 2* mystic staff

Forging 3: 3 x 4* champion halberd + 4* ranger bow + 4* healer staff = 60% chance 5* champion halberd or 20% chance ranger bow or 20% chance healer staff

To simplify:
2* = 2 x 1* weapon (50% each)
3* = 3 x 2* weapon (33.3% each)
4* = 4 x 3* weapon (25% each)
5* = 5 x 4* weapon (20% each)

My reasoning:
To recude the unwanted weapons yield from weapon forging. The cost of forging 5* weapon is 100k, its a waste if the result weapons cant be use or unwanted or already have plenty of it.

3. Make shield useble for forging.

My reasoning:
As you all know, shield can be pull from a weapon ticket yet it cant be use in weapon forging. if shield is not a part of a weapon, remove it from weapon ticket pulls or make it available to use in weapon forge. main and off hand ticket is understandable since shield is a off-hanf equipment.

4. Make a weapons and armor gallery

My reasoning:
When u look at Heroes gallery, we can review and understand them easily. With weapons gallery, we know what weapons and armor out there. We dont have to waste gold and time investing on the wrong weapons. Plus, have an understanding on witch weapons and armor best for heroes. With this said, the "find it" button can be remove from the weapons/armor discription and be incorporated into the weapons/armor gallery.

i guess thats all from me at the moment. Thank you for reading and bare with my spelling or grammer. I hope that VF Dev will take this into consideration for a better friendly user game for the future.

P/S: did the encounter rate for a 3* equipment and heroes dropped in heroic stage???
 
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Re: Equipment Change

Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:14 pm

First of all, i dont know why suddenly vf dev decided to change the set equipment by seperating it. Not just seperate, some of the 4 set equipment becomes single equipment. I know its cbt, changes are bound to be made but there are better option to look at for changes.

If this is a way to close the gap between new and old, it really does rigged the old players team setup, if not all, most of the cbt players. If these are the point of the recent patch update, my suggestions are as follows:

1. Instead of equipment seperations. Make a 2 piece bonus peak and a 4 piece bonus peak for the set equipment or a 2 piece, 3 piece and a 4 piece bonus peak without breaking the 4 set equipment pieces.

my reasoning:
By doing so, new players can have the benefit from the set equipment bonus partially and in the same time rebalancing the differences between old players that use 4 piece set equipment. The old players that work to get the set equipment deserve it. But with this update, u are pulling the leg of the older players. i myself dont have a 4 piece set equipment yet with the patch, those equipment, let it be weapons or armors. From usefull becomes useless.

2. forging in weapons forge, make forge weapon from the same rarity and type of weapons will yield same but higher level of weapon.

Example:
Forging 1: 2 x 1* mystic staff = 100% 2* mystic staff

Forging 2: 1* ranger bow & 1* mystic staff = 50% chance 2* ranger bow and 50% chance 2* mystic staff

Forging 3: 3 x 4* champion halberd + 4* ranger bow + 4* healer staff = 60% chance 5* champion halberd or 20% chance ranger bow or 20% chance healer staff

To simplify:
2* = 2 x 1* weapon (50% each)
3* = 3 x 2* weapon (33.3% each)
4* = 4 x 3* weapon (25% each)
5* = 5 x 4* weapon (20% each)

My reasoning:
To recude the unwanted weapons yield from weapon forging. The cost of forging 5* weapon is 100k, its a waste if the result weapons cant be use or unwanted or already have plenty of it.

3. Make shield useble for forging.

My reasoning:
As you all know, shield can be pull from a weapon ticket yet it cant be use in weapon forging. if shield is not a part of a weapon, remove it from weapon ticket pulls or make it available to use in weapon forge. main and off hand ticket is understandable since shield is a off-hanf equipment.

4. Make a weapons and armor gallery

My reasoning:
When u look at Heroes gallery, we can review and understand them easily. With weapons gallery, we know what weapons and armor out there. We dont have to waste gold and time investing on the wrong weapons. Plus, have an understanding on witch weapons and armor best for heroes. With this said, the "find it" button can be remove from the weapons/armor discription and be incorporated into the weapons/armor gallery.

i guess thats all from me at the moment. Thank you for reading and bare with my spelling or grammer. I hope that VF Dev will take this into consideration for a better friendly user game for the future.

P/S: did the encounter rate for a 3* equipment and heroes dropped in heroic stage???
I agree with you on almost everything you have write in here.
I really don't get why the dev suddenly change 4* star equips and slice them in other sets when they could make new sets of 4* 2/2, seems justr the first step on the nerf of the beta playerbase (ahah seems funny to read and tell, but it could really be..) 

The bonus sets exist from more than 12 years, and the first example i remember was vanilla world of warcraft, where, like you suggest, the peaces of armor was given different bonuses from the number you had:

2 equip of the same name of equip Bonus X
3 equip of the same name of equip Bonus X+Y
4 ...  and go on X+Y+Z

And still from 12 years this kind idea, is still used a lot, because gives to the players a "sense" of progression and even create a sort of connection between the player and his armor, because it's not a peace of garbage he will replace in some days, but something he have to work on and improve over the time.

I have same opinion about weapon forge, and armorsmith..
I still don't get why the armorsmith can't create armor of all classes, i really don't get it..
And i still don't understand if Devs want to keep 5* and 6* equips only buyable from the shop / prestije bonuses or if they will implement it on pve one day (not far i hope).
 
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Re: Equipment Change

Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:28 pm

First of all, i dont know why suddenly vf dev decided to change the set equipment by seperating it. Not just seperate, some of the 4 set equipment becomes single equipment. I know its cbt, changes are bound to be made but there are better option to look at for changes.

If this is a way to close the gap between new and old, it really does rigged the old players team setup, if not all, most of the cbt players. If these are the point of the recent patch update, my suggestions are as follows:

1. Instead of equipment seperations. Make a 2 piece bonus peak and a 4 piece bonus peak for the set equipment or a 2 piece, 3 piece and a 4 piece bonus peak without breaking the 4 set equipment pieces.

my reasoning:
By doing so, new players can have the benefit from the set equipment bonus partially and in the same time rebalancing the differences between old players that use 4 piece set equipment. The old players that work to get the set equipment deserve it. But with this update, u are pulling the leg of the older players. i myself dont have a 4 piece set equipment yet with the patch, those equipment, let it be weapons or armors. From usefull becomes useless.

2. forging in weapons forge, make forge weapon from the same rarity and type of weapons will yield same but higher level of weapon.

Example:
Forging 1: 2 x 1* mystic staff = 100% 2* mystic staff

Forging 2: 1* ranger bow & 1* mystic staff = 50% chance 2* ranger bow and 50% chance 2* mystic staff

Forging 3: 3 x 4* champion halberd + 4* ranger bow + 4* healer staff = 60% chance 5* champion halberd or 20% chance ranger bow or 20% chance healer staff

To simplify:
2* = 2 x 1* weapon (50% each)
3* = 3 x 2* weapon (33.3% each)
4* = 4 x 3* weapon (25% each)
5* = 5 x 4* weapon (20% each)

My reasoning:
To recude the unwanted weapons yield from weapon forging. The cost of forging 5* weapon is 100k, its a waste if the result weapons cant be use or unwanted or already have plenty of it.

3. Make shield useble for forging.

My reasoning:
As you all know, shield can be pull from a weapon ticket yet it cant be use in weapon forging. if shield is not a part of a weapon, remove it from weapon ticket pulls or make it available to use in weapon forge. main and off hand ticket is understandable since shield is a off-hanf equipment.

4. Make a weapons and armor gallery

My reasoning:
When u look at Heroes gallery, we can review and understand them easily. With weapons gallery, we know what weapons and armor out there. We dont have to waste gold and time investing on the wrong weapons. Plus, have an understanding on witch weapons and armor best for heroes. With this said, the "find it" button can be remove from the weapons/armor discription and be incorporated into the weapons/armor gallery.

i guess thats all from me at the moment. Thank you for reading and bare with my spelling or grammer. I hope that VF Dev will take this into consideration for a better friendly user game for the future.

P/S: did the encounter rate for a 3* equipment and heroes dropped in heroic stage???
I agree with you on almost everything you have write in here.
I really don't get why the dev suddenly change 4* star equips and slice them in other sets when they could make new sets of 4* 2/2, seems justr the first step on the nerf of the beta playerbase (ahah seems funny to read and tell, but it could really be..) 

The bonus sets exist from more than 12 years, and the first example i remember was vanilla world of warcraft, where, like you suggest, the peaces of armor was given different bonuses from the number you had:

2 equip of the same name of equip Bonus X
3 equip of the same name of equip Bonus X+Y
4 ...  and go on X+Y+Z

And still from 12 years this kind idea, is still used a lot, because gives to the players a "sense" of progression and even create a sort of connection between the player and his armor, because it's not a peace of garbage he will replace in some days, but something he have to work on and improve over the time.

I have same opinion about weapon forge, and armorsmith..
I still don't get why the armorsmith can't create armor of all classes, i really don't get it..
And i still don't understand if Devs want to keep 5* and 6* equips only buyable from the shop / prestije bonuses or if they will implement it on pve one day (not far i hope).
Cant create armor of all classes. U mean all armor?
I think coz its still in an early stage atm, so dev want to see which rarity does the players majority use..from there that they change how the armor will be use in the future. Like of what happen now. Which i dont really fond of.

My opinion 5* & 6* should be buyable only but after some time, the old ones i hope can be accessible through event or smthing. I hope.