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As the name of the topic, mystics are bad, just bad. For the damage dealer class, they can't even compete with warrior, archer or even shadow both PVE and PVP.
PVE
Most people probably already know why mystic are not worth keeping, most of the time. Why?.
1. Normal attack barely do anything, skill take too long and too little damage that other class can do more before they can skill once.
2. Require a protection, which mean you have to cut more damage dealer for guardian just for mystic and sometimes they still die anyway.

PVP
Let's just compare to most general team you going to fight above 3600 rank.
Against Archer Team
์์Not much to be said, either they trigger until you lose, or they not trigger until you win, but archers have 6 turns to attack before mystic can do anything so, archers win most of the time.

Against Mystic Team
Magic vs magic, depend on who has stronger MAG

Against Guardian Team
This make mystic look laughably weak, because guardians have low MAG and high DEF so, mystics are suppose to be their counter.
Making DEF effect magic defense is always questionable for me, instead of encourage every class to use MAG, let's just make it worthless outside of mystics and healers. This mean guardian can just pump DEF and can take every kind of damage.
Other than that, guardians raid set also have free resilience which is a double middle finger on every mystics.


Against Class Mixing Team
Difficulty is depend on formation and class, if enemy team has 1 or more champion, mystic pretty much win.

In conclusion, Mystics have too little PROS and too many CONS. They are not worth to invest on them since other class can do the same job but better.

TL'DR: Mystic suck, please fix.

+1

In every game i know, there must always be a weakness triangle.
Whether it's Archer>Melee>Mage or the other way around.

In this game however, mystics and healers are severely underused. And with the last balancing patch only making it worse. The only usable meta are rangers and guardians.

I understand that shadows and champions are more favorable in the PvE so it's okay if they're not really great in PvP. But even so, some shadows and champions are still used.

Meanwhile mages and healers generally sucks in both PvE and PvP. It's pointless to build them now and even more frustrating that before the patch you have a lvl 40 Talissa. The resources used to build her could be used to build other heroes that is more useful in PvE. It's very frustrating for me at least, and I'm sure some players also experience the same frustration.

Back then in the developer plan there was a plan to scale mystics normal atk damage from mag instead of atk. When will it be implemented? Mystics has been off balance for a very long time. I think it's about time you guys fix this issue.

Mystic lost their soul in Tower of Lost Soul..
XD

+1

In every game i know, there must always be a weakness triangle.
Whether it's Archer>Melee>Mage or the other way around.

In this game however, mystics and healers are severely underused. And with the last balancing patch only making it worse. The only usable meta are rangers and guardians.

I understand that shadows and champions are more favorable in the PvE so it's okay if they're not really great in PvP. But even so, some shadows and champions are still used.

Meanwhile mages and healers generally sucks in both PvE and PvP. It's pointless to build them now and even more frustrating that before the patch you have a lvl 40 Talissa. The resources used to build her could be used to build other heroes that is more useful in PvE. It's very frustrating for me at least, and I'm sure some players also experience the same frustration.

Back then in the developer plan there was a plan to scale mystics normal atk damage from mag instead of atk. When will it be implemented? Mystics has been off balance for a very long time. I think it's about time you guys fix this issue.

The only cycle i see is archer > guardian > others.
and thats just sad

well they also nerf zedd.... i still don't understand why they make CD delay 80%....

he already has the weakest stats in the game, so what you protect him for 6 turn

then he cast skill but fail to delay the CD?


again tower of lost soul, mystic wait 6 turn to deal 10k dmg to enemy, archer dish out more than 10k dmg in 1 turn?

lets say if you bring mystic team to tower of lost soul, waited for 6 turn, cast all skills and compare to total dmg of archer team dish out in 6 turn.

ain't it supposed to be balanced? i've already said this back then, if they dont balanced out mystic and healer.... is gonna be archer force and guardian force again, just look at the god damn arena. SO MUCH FUN FORMING YOUR OWN TEAM and get rekt by archer  

RIP Mystics.

And here I thought that mystics will get an upgrade in their ATK Stats at the very least but no, we have to invest in the effing skill tree just to get that one.

#ArcherForce
#GuardianForce

the other thing i want to say about is the raid set.

we all know now raid set is the best set for every job...............but mystic.

OK.... well the raid set did give high stats bonus and miracle effect active only when you got one shot when your hp is above 75%.

THATS  JUST USELESS .....

people normally put mystic on 2nd row and 3rd row with protection.

so archer first hit always took away 1/2 hp or 1/3 hp... but then it triggers........  then it kills your mystic..... your mystic never got a chance to trigger that miracle shit.....

WELL thats just one thing...  all classes have 2 set weapon that fits perfectly with raid set.

archer we have beach blaster, and one hit wonder
guardian we have the new justice set 
champion we have  spirit dragon set
shadow we have twin dragon set

mystic and healer.............. RIP

I see some chance to better Mystic's placement in game with the arrival of talent tree.. If only they made mystic and Healer talent to revolve around helping them cast their active skill faster...

But then, I realize one noticeable flaw in my suggestion. Who would be willing to spend their resources just to make Mystics (and Healer) to be slightly more usable than before, when they can spend their resource to improve other classes (that is already usable from the beginning)?

I'm going to assume that either they don't have any solution or they just couldn't care any less, based on their lack of respone.

Hi guys,

Your feedback is appreciated. We are always reading these suggestions. However, we can't just make changes immediately as any change to the entire mystic class would be a drastic overhaul which requires plenty of time. 

Thank you for your patience! We are aware of this as well and are actively discussing this topic.