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Mystics and healer was nerfed from the last patch, but right now some of the healers became really bad.
And lucille first of all of them was hit hard by the nerfhammer.


She is a valiant hero, but outside from her stats (that don't shine at all because of her class) she don't have anything powerfull or that can make you think she is a "Special" hero..
More bad outside from that is that Teresa (a normal hero) is a lot more powerfull in all the classes right now.

In my opinion this hero should be rewamped or buffed, because she has no spot right now, in pve or pvp.

I think her skill is very powerful right now. I wish I have one.

I don't think there is a need to revamp her. Those who got her should not hope that she is Teresa alike, those people who say she have no place in PVE haven't reached that stage yet. 

I don't think there is a need to revamp her. Those who got her should not hope that she is Teresa alike, those people who say she have no place in PVE haven't reached that stage yet. 

I have a 34 lucille archbishop and i finish even All the leggendary stages.
I prefer to use a 5 star teresa liv 30 rather than her, because she has NO use in all events/leggendary/pvp stages right now.
She stand and walk over the town hoping that someday her aura or skill will be more usefull.

just look at sojubeer setup LOL~!.. stacking def/mag to obtain capture points.. that's almost invinsible especially when she use her active skill.. almost impossible to kill in arena atm.. i sense arena system change or holy defender hard nerf in upcoming patch LOL~!

no offense but yea.. she's pretty much OP if you know how to set your formation by def stacking since def now provides magic resistance. but yea.. alot of ppl prefer traditional healing team.. but i do think the passive healing nerf is pretty balance atm.. but mystic mag dmg hard nerf became a small issue due to less dmg output if your mystic aren't elementalist since def now provides magic resist LOL~! buff def, nerf mag = hard nerf on magic user.. just my opinion.

I have a 34 lucille archbishop and i finish even All the leggendary stages.
I prefer to use a 5 star teresa liv 30 rather than her, because she has NO use in all events/leggendary/pvp stages right now.
She stand and walk over the town hoping that someday her aura or skill will be more usefull.

Evidence of the usefulness of her invincibility:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=316&sid=07ab2c13e5e ... 9a18bc54d1
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=321&sid=07ab2c13e5e ... 1&start=10

And let me tell you a funny story:
One day I was doing my daily arena routine and ran into a team with "4* guardian", and I was thinking to myself "oooh a 4*, guess its another walk in the park".
I tried to capture the middle lane with my own guardian but he got knockback by an arrow from the opponent's grandranger, and the "4* guardian" moved in to control that middle tile.
So I focus all my dps on the "4* guardian" and by the time I got his hp to 20%, he was healed to full and wrapped with invincibility shield. Still, I didnt give up and kept trying to dps the "4* guardian" down, but every time I got her to 5-20% hp, she was always covered with 2 turn invincibility shield. Before, I knew it, I already lost the match.
Moral of the story: 5 turn cd full heal with 2 turn invincibility is no joke. And thats not even a 5* guardian.

I have a 34 lucille archbishop and i finish even All the leggendary stages.
I prefer to use a 5 star teresa liv 30 rather than her, because she has NO use in all events/leggendary/pvp stages right now.
She stand and walk over the town hoping that someday her aura or skill will be more usefull.

Evidence of the usefulness of her invincibility:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=316&sid=07ab2c13e5e ... 9a18bc54d1
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=321&sid=07ab2c13e5e ... 1&start=10

And let me tell you a funny story:
One day I was doing my daily arena routine and ran into a team with "4* guardian", and I was thinking to myself "oooh a 4*, guess its another walk in the park".
I tried to capture the middle lane with my own guardian but he got knockback by an arrow from the opponent's grandranger, and the "4* guardian" moved in to control that middle tile.
So I focus all my dps on the "4* guardian" and by the time I got his hp to 20%, he was healed to full and wrapped with invincibility shield. Still, I didnt give up and kept trying to dps the "4* guardian" down, but every time I got her to 5-20% hp, she was always covered with 2 turn invincibility shield. Before, I knew it, I already lost the match.
Moral of the story: 5 turn cd full heal with 2 turn invincibility is no joke. And thats not even a 5* guardian.

I have already made another poll, because some people point out that inquisitor lucille is preatty strong, but spirit walker and archbishop are terrible.. You can find it here:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=515

Other than that, if you focus a tank on a pvp play, it is just you that are a terrible tactician, not that a skill is nice.

I have a 34 lucille archbishop and i finish even All the leggendary stages.
I prefer to use a 5 star teresa liv 30 rather than her, because she has NO use in all events/leggendary/pvp stages right now.
She stand and walk over the town hoping that someday her aura or skill will be more usefull.

Evidence of the usefulness of her invincibility:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=316&sid=07ab2c13e5e ... 9a18bc54d1
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=321&sid=07ab2c13e5e ... 1&start=10

And let me tell you a funny story:
One day I was doing my daily arena routine and ran into a team with "4* guardian", and I was thinking to myself "oooh a 4*, guess its another walk in the park".
I tried to capture the middle lane with my own guardian but he got knockback by an arrow from the opponent's grandranger, and the "4* guardian" moved in to control that middle tile.
So I focus all my dps on the "4* guardian" and by the time I got his hp to 20%, he was healed to full and wrapped with invincibility shield. Still, I didnt give up and kept trying to dps the "4* guardian" down, but every time I got her to 5-20% hp, she was always covered with 2 turn invincibility shield. Before, I knew it, I already lost the match.
Moral of the story: 5 turn cd full heal with 2 turn invincibility is no joke. And thats not even a 5* guardian.

I have already made another poll, because some people point out that inquisitor lucille is preatty strong, but spirit walker and archbishop are terrible.. You can find it here:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=515

Other than that, if you focus a tank on a pvp play, it is just you that are a terrible tactician, not that a skill is nice.

Yep, mistake were made, we all are human being after all. But who would have thought a 4* unit would be able to survive through the dps of 3 average 8k atk champion/ranger just because of a single spell?

Evidence of the usefulness of her invincibility:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=316&sid=07ab2c13e5e ... 9a18bc54d1
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=321&sid=07ab2c13e5e ... 1&start=10

And let me tell you a funny story:
One day I was doing my daily arena routine and ran into a team with "4* guardian", and I was thinking to myself "oooh a 4*, guess its another walk in the park".
I tried to capture the middle lane with my own guardian but he got knockback by an arrow from the opponent's grandranger, and the "4* guardian" moved in to control that middle tile.
So I focus all my dps on the "4* guardian" and by the time I got his hp to 20%, he was healed to full and wrapped with invincibility shield. Still, I didnt give up and kept trying to dps the "4* guardian" down, but every time I got her to 5-20% hp, she was always covered with 2 turn invincibility shield. Before, I knew it, I already lost the match.
Moral of the story: 5 turn cd full heal with 2 turn invincibility is no joke. And thats not even a 5* guardian.

I have already made another poll, because some people point out that inquisitor lucille is preatty strong, but spirit walker and archbishop are terrible.. You can find it here:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=515

Other than that, if you focus a tank on a pvp play, it is just you that are a terrible tactician, not that a skill is nice.

Yep, mistake were made, we all are human being after all. But who would have thought a 4* unit would be able to survive through the dps of 3 average 8k atk champion/ranger just because of a single spell?

But you have to admit that this spell is rather usless in pvp and pve, just because one unit invincible can't change anything on both the modes.
Inquisitor lucille and teresa can make invincible all the team (hp armor for 2 turns) 

I have already made another poll, because some people point out that inquisitor lucille is preatty strong, but spirit walker and archbishop are terrible.. You can find it here:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=515

Other than that, if you focus a tank on a pvp play, it is just you that are a terrible tactician, not that a skill is nice.

Yep, mistake were made, we all are human being after all. But who would have thought a 4* unit would be able to survive through the dps of 3 average 8k atk champion/ranger just because of a single spell?

But you have to admit that this spell is rather usless in pvp and pve, just because one unit invincible can't change anything on both the modes.
Inquisitor lucille and teresa can make invincible all the team (hp armor for 2 turns) 

Erm but i just tried to elaborate a situation that she is made useful in pvp, ie. to assist with the holding of capture point, and that was done by the AI. I am sure people can do better with their imagination.