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Nice game, for me there should be data wipe for cbt gamers,.

Newbie gamers will have to grind up for months and invest large sum of money inorder to catch up with high level accounts from cbt gamers. Almost cbt gamers has lvl 70+ accounts with many 5 star valiant heroes,. And +15 orange equips.

An administrator said that newbies or new gamers can definitely catch up from cbt gamers. I think this will happen if only new gamers will go p2p and focus on grinding in months.
Also i have played many games and joined many cbt launch from other online games pc or mobile. CBT test should be a phase to test the game if the game is nearly good to launch or if there are any major bugs or glitch that needed to be fixed in order to have a successful OBT or Game launch. And in order to make good competition between gamers. CBT data wipe is always done to ensure fair starting with fellow gamers. But in this game CBT gamers will experience no data wipe so from that point they already have a huge advantage in game.
But from my perspective they just dont want to do cbt data wipe in order to encourage newbie gamers to invest large money in order to compete with cbt gamers with op accounts. Also its part of their marketing strategy cant blame them.

I can understand that if they told the cbt gamers that it is not a Closed Beta Testing but already a soft launching of the game or an OBT.
Because in OBT the game is already accessible or released. And its open for all gamers.
While they chose a few hundreds gamers for cbt
It doesnt mean that they or we have the right to be ahead of other gamers. because its just a testing Phase but not an officially released game.
And last if vf decides to have a wipe out, cbt gamers has already a big advantage in game because they or we already knew the strategy or right build for their valiant or characters playing this game.
While newbiees or new gamers needs some time in order to get used in choosing the right faiths aura and equip set to build characters.

GOOD LUCK and more power Valiant Force in launching the game in few hours.

Hope you guys understand and please dont be harsh on me or bash me out from your comments goodspeed and btw im sorry for my poor english.

I don't understand this....
I provide a one man squad on arena...
Share my experience and still learning more just to help newbies...
Don't have dragoon Vincent yet but still finding one for whoever need stunlock...
And i don't want all of my hard word become dust...
Just bcuz some people don't choose to play before official release...

Personally, I have no problem with whether or not they wipe everything. Way I see it, as someone waiting for the game to even release at the moment, is that it's more of an opportunity to learn from them and see what kind of team comps they go with.

It doesnt mean that they or we have the right to be ahead of other gamers. because its just a testing Phase but not an officially released game.
And last if vf decides to have a wipe out, cbt gamers has already a big advantage in game because they or we already knew the strategy or right build for their valiant or characters playing this game.
While newbiees or new gamers needs some time in order to get used in choosing the right faiths aura and equip set to build characters.

Look, you can even tell that to yourself months from now, there will always be newcomers in the game. What are you talking about big advantage? The way I understand what you said is like everytime there is a new player, VF should date wipe it, if thats what you meant by new gamers need some time in order to get used to. And why do you want to be in par with the cbt gamers? They also spend months. In time you will be in par. This game is not all about arena that you have to compare yourself with the cbt gamers. Just enjoy the game.

FYI i stay neutral with wipe or no wipe because i've participate in alot of cbt games so i am mentally prepared any scenario.
I believe everyone have their own perspective on this topic, so below statement is based on my personal point of view. No offense
I think as a newcomer it is normal to see their frustration against no wipe because of that unfairness feeling.
Knowing that they will be competing against a groups of vets, even a none spender vets will ranked higher than them due to the units that they have already trained & developed. If they're a low or average spender, it could takes them a month or more to keep up with the pace against a "none spender" players especially job keys is harder to get now. How about the cbt low/average & top spender?, they will be out of reach until maybe 3 months~ 6 months of farming with the usage of gem on items like jobs keys and such till they fully maxed out all their units. Summary is that they'll need extra effort & money to keep up with the pace, i do think it doesn't matters to non-spenders because they just play and go which happens in alot of games. If you put yourself into their shoe, you will understand why. "If you aren't chosen for CBT, will you feel frustrated? will you ask for such request?" Think again.

And still, i remains neutral for wipe or no wipe, but if wipe is going to happen. i do think cbt players deserve something based on how they helped in game & community to build a more balanced and better game.

Peace. 

Maybe introduce seasons like D3 and POE. but for pvp only. Thus having a season pvp ladder and non season ladder. Reasons for whales to spend again every season to keep their rankings and chance for new players to catch up.

what a newcomer have missed:

from 6 sept ~ 27 oct
worth of energy @ 8mins per energy rate & lunch/dinner energy
worth of job keys @ 3 keys from guild quest, 1 key from daily, some key from wishing well
worth of arena orb
wishing well
guild dailies
event - gold mines, tower of despair, capitol's last stand & previous event
building time
market reset
gold from gold mine(building)
some gems from gem cavern
daily quest
gem/normal summoning (hero/equipment)
maintenance gift

No offense, but doesn't it sounds like a hugh advanage?. i don't know, it's something for "you" to judge.
Peace.

It doesnt mean that they or we have the right to be ahead of other gamers. because its just a testing Phase but not an officially released game.
And last if vf decides to have a wipe out, cbt gamers has already a big advantage in game because they or we already knew the strategy or right build for their valiant or characters playing this game.
While newbiees or new gamers needs some time in order to get used in choosing the right faiths aura and equip set to build characters.

Look, you can even tell that to yourself months from now, there will always be newcomers in the game. What are you talking about big advantage? The way I understand what you said is like everytime there is a new player, VF should date wipe it, if thats what you meant by new gamers need some time in order to get used to. And why do you want to be in par with the cbt gamers? They also spend months. In time you will be in par. This game is not all about arena that you have to compare yourself with the cbt gamers. Just enjoy the game.

Mr. I dont know what your talking about here the way you understand what i wrote here is just stupid. im sorry for saying that word. please have a open mind and understood what it really meant. or your just reading some parts of the message. 
why would you even say that the way you understood my message is everytime there is a new player Vf should data wipe it please dont spout non sense.
you said why do you want to be in par with cbt gamers? they also spend months. lol im also part of the cbt gamers ROLF. 
please read all the message before posting. your just select what you want to read and say thigs that irrelevant.

what a newcomer have missed:

from 6 sept ~ 27 oct
worth of energy @ 8mins per energy rate & lunch/dinner energy
worth of job keys @ 3 keys from guild quest, 1 key from daily, some key from wishing well
worth of arena orb
wishing well
guild dailies
event - gold mines, tower of despair, capitol's last stand & previous event
building time
market reset
gold from gold mine(building)
some gems from gem cavern
daily quest
gem/normal summoning (hero/equipment)
maintenance gift

No offense, but doesn't it sounds like a hugh advanage?. i don't know, it's something for "you" to judge.
Peace.

first of all thanks for replying
but do you know the meaning of advantage it means a condition or circumstance that puts one in a favorable or superior position.
if you have already played cbt since it started, you already have a huge amount of time to collect 5 star hero or valiants, 
plus energy gems job quest key wc you already stated are also part of the advantage. because your already ahead and in a superior postion.
CBT is just a testing Phase, so a test phase should have a data be wipe out, while if its OBT the game is already realeased so you dont need to wipe does data out.
nice reply BTW, peace

what a newcomer have missed:

from 6 sept ~ 27 oct
worth of energy @ 8mins per energy rate & lunch/dinner energy
worth of job keys @ 3 keys from guild quest, 1 key from daily, some key from wishing well
worth of arena orb
wishing well
guild dailies
event - gold mines, tower of despair, capitol's last stand & previous event
building time
market reset
gold from gold mine(building)
some gems from gem cavern
daily quest
gem/normal summoning (hero/equipment)
maintenance gift

No offense, but doesn't it sounds like a hugh advanage?. i don't know, it's something for "you" to judge.
Peace.

first of all thanks for replying
but do you know the meaning of advantage it means a condition or circumstance that puts one in a favorable or superior position.
if you have already played cbt since it started, you already have a huge amount of time to collect 5 star hero or valiants, 
plus energy gems job quest key wc you already stated are also part of the advantage. because your already ahead and in a superior postion.
CBT is just a testing Phase, so a test phase should have a data be wipe out, while if its OBT the game is already realeased so you dont need to wipe does data out.
nice reply BTW, peace

Yea i played CBT and was a top 5 players after the first 2 wave of arena during mystic era, i think my previous post before that mention something about "newcomer facing against CBT player that already have trained & developed units" this additional reply is for people who keeps saying there aren't much difference, eventually players like us will keep developing heros and maybe max LB some of the units in a month or few months time. And ofcos i do know what's CBT & OBT, usually CBT is to gather information in prepare for official OBT launch with a wipe to maintain fairness to all players. because everyone is humans and people made mistake, and ofcos all the information i stated there is just for reference.
If i offended anyone, i apologize. peace.