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You can also use ninja to swap them out from their spot.

"Build a team of your favorite units"

Oh my lord. My strat is hyper offensive, and those units that I use FITS my strats, ok?

I kill the frontliner with my zerk, dragoon, shizu combo and the next wave I can use dragoon's skill to jump to the back row to finish the rangers/mages. It works well against most of other squads. But thats only like the main picture of how this squad works.

Ass heroes like Kai that switch places shines against these tanker cancers, but thats only it tho, his damage is not that decent, no bulk, and not for me. Lel.

My strat is really weak to ranger aura combo strat, or witch doctor poison aura combo strat. I know my weaknesses my friend.

The problem is

I can ohko a tank with my dragoon or zerk IF they crit, exactly like the guy above said, and if you havent already noticed, good champs wont have a good crit rate.

Champion is a hard counter, theoritically.

The way arena works, is that once those cancers take the ponts, youre on a timer, then YOU WONT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO KILL EM. THEY HEAL TOO MUCH. Unless you have like a really godly champ set. Even so, it's like saying I need a level 10 champ to win against a level 5 tank. How is that fair?

So the counter of a said class needs to be a lot stronger(lvl and equip) than the said class? That is no counter, that is overpowering.


I know Im on the wrong section, it's just most of the time people dont check that suggestion or whatever section too much.

"Build a team of your favorite units"

Oh my lord. My strat is hyper offensive, and those units that I use FITS my strats, ok?

I kill the frontliner with my zerk, dragoon, shizu combo and the next wave I can use dragoon's skill to jump to the back row to finish the rangers/mages. It works well against most of other squads. But thats only like the main picture of how this squad works.

Ass heroes like Kai that switch places shines against these tanker cancers, but thats only it tho, his damage is not that decent, no bulk, and not for me. Lel.

My strat is really weak to ranger aura combo strat, or witch doctor poison aura combo strat. I know my weaknesses my friend.

The problem is

I can ohko a tank with my dragoon or zerk IF they crit, exactly like the guy above said, and if you havent already noticed, good champs wont have a good crit rate.

Champion is a hard counter, theoritically.

The way arena works, is that once those cancers take the ponts, youre on a timer, then YOU WONT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO KILL EM. THEY HEAL TOO MUCH. Unless you have like a really godly champ set. Even so, it's like saying I need a level 10 champ to win against a level 5 tank. How is that fair?

So the counter of a said class needs to be a lot stronger(lvl and equip) than the said class? That is no counter, that is overpowering.


I know Im on the wrong section, it's just most of the time people dont check that suggestion or whatever section too much.

Ask yourself what do you want to achieve from Arena?  Since you do not want to follow meta and refuse to counter meta.

"Build a team of your favorite units"

Oh my lord. My strat is hyper offensive, and those units that I use FITS my strats, ok?

I kill the frontliner with my zerk, dragoon, shizu combo and the next wave I can use dragoon's skill to jump to the back row to finish the rangers/mages. It works well against most of other squads. But thats only like the main picture of how this squad works.

Ass heroes like Kai that switch places shines against these tanker cancers, but thats only it tho, his damage is not that decent, no bulk, and not for me. Lel.

My strat is really weak to ranger aura combo strat, or witch doctor poison aura combo strat. I know my weaknesses my friend.

The problem is

I can ohko a tank with my dragoon or zerk IF they crit, exactly like the guy above said, and if you havent already noticed, good champs wont have a good crit rate.

Champion is a hard counter, theoritically.

The way arena works, is that once those cancers take the ponts, youre on a timer, then YOU WONT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO KILL EM. THEY HEAL TOO MUCH. Unless you have like a really godly champ set. Even so, it's like saying I need a level 10 champ to win against a level 5 tank. How is that fair?

So the counter of a said class needs to be a lot stronger(lvl and equip) than the said class? That is no counter, that is overpowering.


I know Im on the wrong section, it's just most of the time people dont check that suggestion or whatever section too much.

Others have already given the solution, just swap them out and they're effectively useless meat shields that are able to only taunt you outside and dealing almost no damage to your units, one swap makes the game effectively 4v5. Ninja Kai in arena isn't weak at all and does a pretty hugeload of damage, sorry that it isn't your type of unit though. Any Rune Magus will fuck them over with knockbacks and trump wall, giving your team enough space to actually occupy the spot and ta-da, it's over for them since they deal shit damage. 

The issue about the cancer formation you mentioned regarding 3 tanks 2 healer and stuffs like that are that they deal literally almost little to no damage, sure, you most probably won't be able to snipe them or kill them with all the BK and healers healing, just swap two of them out and you're set for the game, there's a reason why you don't see such meme plays in the high level arena, simply because they're not as broken as you mentioned or thought to be, otherwise anyone could've done the same and steal a spot at the top with such cheap method. 
 

The Tanker Strategy is very weak to my "SUPER AMAZING RANDOM TELEPORT-SWAP-KNOCKBACK" STRATEGY

Seriously, if you can't beat those hard walls, just make use of the other option and this is a no-brainer strategy though you will require:

1.) Luthor Spirit Walker - He teleports targeted hero to somewhere else, mediocre healing though!
2.) Zedd Rune Magus - He puts a f*cking Great Wall of China in the middle tiles but mediocre damage though and might not work if the opposing tiles have heroes.
3.) Zedd Warlock - Another hero that can teleport heroes! Have to wait for 7 turns though
4.) Kai Ninja - Swap position + DEF reduction is win-win situation!
5.) Kiera Rune Magus - Similar to Zedd Rune Magus (Aura can trigger knockback too!)
6.) Kiera Warlock - Similar to Zedd Warlock but higher damage!
7.) Lucille Spirit Walker - Similar to Luthor Spirit Walker but with higher healing though (still mediocre)
8.) Shizu Ninja - Similar to Kai Ninja with higher DEF reduction!
9.) Victoria Chaos Knight - SWAP WITH MY TILE!
10.) Darrion Chaos Knight - SWAP WITH MY TILE! 

You dont have to beat them! Just outsmart them!

Everyone: you should try fight fire with water
You: Fight fire with sand, sand so OP

I mean sand is great and all, they make nice beaches, not really nice for fighting fire imo

I honestly had harder time against a stacked champion team than a team with 2-3 tanks. Every heroes/squad composition has their own counter tho, i pretty much prefer to get matched with a 3 tanks squad since I play with GR&GS ranger and a CK which can pretty much contest on point, rather than getting a match with a jumper class (extreme counter for ranger/mage).

me nub, but im fuking happy if my opponent full of tanker. its fuking guarantee win coz AI arena not so clever.

i fear berserker more. lol
damn >11k attack. that monster can 1hko my tank!

I see the point of the Op.

Right now almost only tank team need counter pick heroes..
Generally you can have a balanced team with tank 2 short ranged dps or 1 short and 1 long or 2 long ranged dps and 1 healer.. 

But if you want to counter a tank team you Need to put up some units.. That people above me have already mentioned..
I feel that tank should not be nerfed but maybe they should nerf the amount of point you take for middle positions and side on arena

Everyone: you should try fight fire with water
You: Fight fire with sand, sand so OP

I mean sand is great and all, they make nice beaches, not really nice for fighting fire imo

+1 
But seriously OP, basically what you're saying is "Please nerf tank cause my strategy doesn't work, and no I refuse to change my strategy, you change instead"