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I think i agree with you, Arclaine, because for now i will avoid that kind of squad, but later on if there is no other way to counter the meta, the game will be archer gaming xD, unfortunately i don't have descent archer squad yet, so can't speak from user archer PoV yet, but from a player that fight against it, if the squad not using Guardian absolutely Very hard to beat , 

but maybe Kiera + mag squad can beat it? i don't know, but that's the only solution i can think off, but unfortunately i don't have mag Kiera yet. so i can't tell :\

freya berserker can counter quite well

That would require them to target Freya specifically and on top of that, do you position archers to the left and right of a freya berserker to even land hits on their archer positioned far away? It seems to work on paper, but this idea is as dumb as it gets.

Sometimes i wonder why i even bother replying to you.
You dont need range to trigger stun freya aura. As long as theres someone there in the aura, it will trigger stun.

Beartroll, hmmm it might work, will try it ur idea once i get descent freiya, hmm ur idea a bit solid, but idk how 30% chance freiya aura will trigger, i hope she's not dead before it triggered;) ty i am exciting about the solution though

ya, it's not like freya cant take 2 triggers from a full fledged GS/GR. Yeah. And enemy archers will mostly target your archer first if you're using an archer squad. So....

I call BS on this meta, got tired of being mad at arena for getting the 2nd turn and lose just because of a mere crit (and win with the same method), it's just that stupid, whenever I click play again or whatever forgot the button, I always pray that I get the first turn and crit, because that's what determines the outcome of the match.

Nobody speaks loud for this meta cause they love this kind of stupidity, it's not a "strategy" whatever game that used to "challenge our creativity" (or whatever they used to say it) to make a working aura combo or form. It's just:
>Get a GS Bella
>Get a GR Bella or GS Kane
>Get an optional GR Bella or GS kane
>Raise their crit rate and set up their equipments and runes.
>GG

Yes archers are too Over Power now. It would be good to nerf archers or power up the other unit to match them.

best nerf would be only 2 class each max in arena, like max 2 rangers, 2 champs, etc

or with every trigger the chance reduced by 10% every trigger

I think dodge rune also pretty good against rangers team. But the current 25% is a tad low and unreliable. I think 35% should be good.

To be honest, LUCK is all you need that a ranger doesnt crit on his/her 1st turn but I find disrupting their formation with a ninja or disabling the "Central" ranger (usually GRane/GS Cybella/GS Nadia) working at most of my battles.

Also, buff up your front liners! Limit breaking your champs to be tanky is also a good way to withstand those dreaded crits.

Are you honestly naive enough to believe you can survive 5 turns before his skill cooldown is over? Up against these lineups, it usually ends in 2-3 turns, and he could always just sleep your ninja since they share the same cooldown duration and if he goes first, assuming you can even survive to the fifth turn.

I dont know that's why i said LUCK is all you need. People calling naive is too much for an opinion, isn't it?

They should at least make heal on hit / heal on turn bigger to fights those trigers early on

best nerf would be only 2 class each max in arena, like max 2 rangers, 2 champs, etc

I like this idea ALOT. Also Arclaine's suggestion on his other thread, increase penalty on attacking 2nd and 3rd row because with the current powercreep, archers can still easily gibb backrow units with 2-3 trigger attacks.

Though I really prefer the 2 max of each class. This will really challenge people's creativity than just facerolling with the same units.

best nerf would be only 2 class each max in arena, like max 2 rangers, 2 champs, etc

I like this idea ALOT. Also Arclaine's suggestion on his other thread, increase penalty on attacking 2nd and 3rd row because with the current powercreep, archers can still easily gibb backrow units with 2-3 trigger attacks.

Though I really prefer the 2 max of each class. This will really challenge people's creativity than just facerolling with the same units.

I do agree..
And not only in arena but also in pve maps..
You know some people are just using their five archers to clear the current legendary event maps, Capitol 3 and much more..
They will do that in every future event, abandoning their other hero and keep making their archers OP..

Anyone please create a thread suggestion about this until the devs notice it..
Once it's applied in the next patch, every possible Power Creep lineup will end straight away..