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Re: Best valiant

Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:18 pm

With the current meta in late game, only Lucille Inqui and GR Kane.

There are pending plans for valiant revampbut devs are still finishing the mess they made with raids and summoners first. They are also have Leon and Theia on their bucket list for the next update. The update after, who knows? Maybe the three remaining summoner classes.
 
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Re: Best valiant

Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:46 pm

+1 i can't disagree more but if i may add darrion CK even he can be replaced by victoria CK :)
Darrion CK is more like the upgrade version of Victoria CK with slightly stats and skills.
Active: 150% magic damage instead of 140% magic damage.
Aura: Increasing ATK and DEF by 15% instead of 12-13% of the Hero's DEF.
But don't forget that Victoria is easier to Limit Break.
Ares/Zeus Ninja Shizu is still decent in my opinion.
Shizu Ninja is more like the upgrade version of Kai Ninja with slightly better stats and 50% instead of 40% (Reduce DEF & Refresh aura)
But don't forget that Kai is easier to Limit Break.

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But since you are new into this game (based on your other thread), it's doesn't matter anyway.
Here, the database of the valiant heroes. It even has a poll of which heroes that good on PvP and PvE.
http://db-valiants.rhcloud.com/en/
 
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Re: Best valiant

Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:44 pm

Thx so much y'all. However to summarise it WHICH IS THE ONE BEST VALIANT THAT WILL FORVER STAY STRONG AND THE BEST VALAINT IN ARENA AND STORY AND HAS GOOD EARLY, MID AND LATE GAME AND IS THE BEST VALIANT AMONG ALL THE OTHER VALIANTS AND THE ONE I SHOULD GET???!!!
 
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Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:53 pm

Thx so much y'all. However to summarise it WHICH IS THE ONE BEST VALIANT THAT WILL FORVER STAY STRONG AND THE BEST VALAINT IN ARENA AND STORY AND HAS GOOD EARLY, MID AND LATE GAME AND IS THE BEST VALIANT AMONG ALL THE OTHER VALIANTS AND THE ONE I SHOULD GET???!!!
IT DEPENDS ON THE STAGE. PVP? PVE? NOT MANY HEROES CAN FIT BOTH.

DARRION BLOODKNIGHT
FREYA DRAGOON
SHIZU SAMURAI
KIERA ELEMENTALIST
LUCILLE INQUISITOR
KANE GRANDRANGER

AND THIS THREAD IS GOING TO BE USELESS TBH WHEN THE VALIANT REVAMP COMES. BECAUSE DEVELOPERS GONNA CHANGE THEIR SKILL/AURA.

...but we don't know when the "valiant revamp" will come.
 
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Re: Best valiant

Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:47 pm

Any versatile ones. From the link above ^ its hard to understand what the votes mean? Anyone can take a look and tell me? Which is more impt ultimately arena or story... PvP or PvE? Maybe the valiant that is good at both... What is the requirement I should be looking for?
Cheers,
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Re: Best valiant

Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:06 pm

Any versatile ones. From the link above ^ its hard to understand what the votes mean? Anyone can take a look and tell me? Which is more impt ultimately arena or story... PvP or PvE? Maybe the valiant that is good at both... What is the requirement I should be looking for?
Cheers,
Jajacho
To be able to give you an answer, we need to make some dangerous assumptions that have been held constant from the start of game till now, but may change overtime, since no valiant will be the strongest forever (people will just ask for it to be nerfed) so having that thought about a valiant is a big fallacy. So now that I have stated a disclaimer (please dont blame me if the game changes in a way that disadvantages your choice), let me attempt to break it into simpler terms for you. 
From the collective responses gathered, the common go to choice by most thread posters is Kane grand ranger (hera).  And i would say go for that as well.
From a pve perspective, within a month or two, you should be getting a 5 star theia and 5 star leon (please keep them and level them but dont MLB until the update is out or dont feed them as training units). So you have gotten 5 star tank and healer covered. You now need a DPS. The dps that has been desirable since the beginning of the game and most versatile would be a kane. 
Archer class seems to be and will remain a favored class for the foreseeable future. The triggering is essential in many aspect of the game and also their stun CC (crowd control abilities). Just looking at their normal attack, they are ranged units which are quite valuable. The archer class also looks to remain to be a popular choice as we have yet to see an archer summoner and also the archer that can be triggered with healing. 
For pvp, archer goes well with current meta sven/ summoners. For pve, archer grand ranger kane will be helpful for your balthor battle. Capitol wise, a ranger will always find a place, tower as well, and gold mine can use an archer too. 
PVE although has been a boring part of game, but its important development area for starting players. With updates on pve coming (elf), i would think that choosing a DPS unit will benefit you better. 
Of course all these are but my own opinion. You can help others to help you better by sharing more information about your intended style of gameplay. For example, will you be a whale or a f2p player. All the choices may change depending on your gaming profile. 
By method of elimination, since u will be getting a tank n healer 5 star, you need dps. choose from shizu, kane and freya. 
Freya(my bias) is unfortunately quite a sitting duck in arena. Shizu wld be good for mines, decent for arena, but compared to kane, and the potential of trigger teams, seems like kane is more useful.
Also considering the kind of heros you may get, kane will go with almost every hero combination you can think of. if you get an extra archer, good, then u can pair with kane for more triggering. if u chose a shizu, your formation choices maybe limited if you get an archer. In short kane goes well with almost every other hero at the start, will remain useful until the late game.
Bear in mind, for a successful grandranger u need lots of crit stat. so that might be hard to achieve for F2P or new player (3-4months). If you dont have resource and impatient, maybe gunslinger could be better, since it can use ares or zeus faith. 
So to summarise, depends on how patient you are, how much you are willing to spend, how long you intend to play the game. In each of this instances, going with kane, cant be very wrong.
Your one word answer to your worry: KANE.
 
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Re: Best valiant

Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:24 pm

Thx so much y'all. However to summarise it WHICH IS THE ONE BEST VALIANT THAT WILL FORVER STAY STRONG AND THE BEST VALAINT IN ARENA AND STORY AND HAS GOOD EARLY, MID AND LATE GAME AND IS THE BEST VALIANT AMONG ALL THE OTHER VALIANTS AND THE ONE I SHOULD GET???!!!
IT DEPENDS ON THE STAGE. PVP? PVE? NOT MANY HEROES CAN FIT BOTH.

DARRION BLOODKNIGHT
FREYA DRAGOON
SHIZU SAMURAI
KIERA ELEMENTALIST
LUCILLE INQUISITOR
KANE GRANDRANGER

AND THIS THREAD IS GOING TO BE USELESS TBH WHEN THE VALIANT REVAMP COMES. BECAUSE DEVELOPERS GONNA CHANGE THEIR SKILL/AURA.

...but we don't know when the "valiant revamp" will come.

Lol your reply made me lmao'd hahahah
 
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Re: Best valiant

Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:10 pm

No, the best valiant is kiera. I dont know what you guys are talking about.
 
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Re: Best valiant

Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:54 pm

Any versatile ones. From the link above ^ its hard to understand what the votes mean? Anyone can take a look and tell me? Which is more impt ultimately arena or story... PvP or PvE? Maybe the valiant that is good at both... What is the requirement I should be looking for?
Cheers,
Jajacho
To be able to give you an answer, we need to make some dangerous assumptions that have been held constant from the start of game till now, but may change overtime, since no valiant will be the strongest forever (people will just ask for it to be nerfed) so having that thought about a valiant is a big fallacy. So now that I have stated a disclaimer (please dont blame me if the game changes in a way that disadvantages your choice), let me attempt to break it into simpler terms for you. 
From the collective responses gathered, the common go to choice by most thread posters is Kane grand ranger (hera).  And i would say go for that as well.
From a pve perspective, within a month or two, you should be getting a 5 star theia and 5 star leon (please keep them and level them but dont MLB until the update is out or dont feed them as training units). So you have gotten 5 star tank and healer covered. You now need a DPS. The dps that has been desirable since the beginning of the game and most versatile would be a kane. 
Archer class seems to be and will remain a favored class for the foreseeable future. The triggering is essential in many aspect of the game and also their stun CC (crowd control abilities). Just looking at their normal attack, they are ranged units which are quite valuable. The archer class also looks to remain to be a popular choice as we have yet to see an archer summoner and also the archer that can be triggered with healing. 
For pvp, archer goes well with current meta sven/ summoners. For pve, archer grand ranger kane will be helpful for your balthor battle. Capitol wise, a ranger will always find a place, tower as well, and gold mine can use an archer too. 
PVE although has been a boring part of game, but its important development area for starting players. With updates on pve coming (elf), i would think that choosing a DPS unit will benefit you better. 
Of course all these are but my own opinion. You can help others to help you better by sharing more information about your intended style of gameplay. For example, will you be a whale or a f2p player. All the choices may change depending on your gaming profile. 
By method of elimination, since u will be getting a tank n healer 5 star, you need dps. choose from shizu, kane and freya. 
Freya(my bias) is unfortunately quite a sitting duck in arena. Shizu wld be good for mines, decent for arena, but compared to kane, and the potential of trigger teams, seems like kane is more useful.
Also considering the kind of heros you may get, kane will go with almost every hero combination you can think of. if you get an extra archer, good, then u can pair with kane for more triggering. if u chose a shizu, your formation choices maybe limited if you get an archer. In short kane goes well with almost every other hero at the start, will remain useful until the late game.
Bear in mind, for a successful grandranger u need lots of crit stat. so that might be hard to achieve for F2P or new player (3-4months). If you dont have resource and impatient, maybe gunslinger could be better, since it can use ares or zeus faith. 
So to summarise, depends on how patient you are, how much you are willing to spend, how long you intend to play the game. In each of this instances, going with kane, cant be very wrong.
Your one word answer to your worry: KANE.


To freydom:
I am quite patient as long it yearns good results or outcomes, I am unfortunately a FREE TO PLAY player and I intend to play this game for about 1 year?! So does it change who I should go for and just reply that ONE NAME WHO IS THE BEST VALIANT AMONG THE REST WHICH PROVES TO BE BETTER IN EVERY ASPECT LIKE PVP AND PVE AND WILL HELP ME BECOME PRO AND BE USEFUL TO ME MORE THAN ANY OF THE OTHER VALIANTS!!!
 
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Re: Best valiant

Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:18 pm

Any versatile ones. From the link above ^ its hard to understand what the votes mean? Anyone can take a look and tell me? Which is more impt ultimately arena or story... PvP or PvE? Maybe the valiant that is good at both... What is the requirement I should be looking for?
Cheers,
Jajacho
To be able to give you an answer, we need to make some dangerous assumptions that have been held constant from the start of game till now, but may change overtime, since no valiant will be the strongest forever (people will just ask for it to be nerfed) so having that thought about a valiant is a big fallacy. So now that I have stated a disclaimer (please dont blame me if the game changes in a way that disadvantages your choice), let me attempt to break it into simpler terms for you. 
From the collective responses gathered, the common go to choice by most thread posters is Kane grand ranger (hera).  And i would say go for that as well.
From a pve perspective, within a month or two, you should be getting a 5 star theia and 5 star leon (please keep them and level them but dont MLB until the update is out or dont feed them as training units). So you have gotten 5 star tank and healer covered. You now need a DPS. The dps that has been desirable since the beginning of the game and most versatile would be a kane. 
Archer class seems to be and will remain a favored class for the foreseeable future. The triggering is essential in many aspect of the game and also their stun CC (crowd control abilities). Just looking at their normal attack, they are ranged units which are quite valuable. The archer class also looks to remain to be a popular choice as we have yet to see an archer summoner and also the archer that can be triggered with healing. 
For pvp, archer goes well with current meta sven/ summoners. For pve, archer grand ranger kane will be helpful for your balthor battle. Capitol wise, a ranger will always find a place, tower as well, and gold mine can use an archer too. 
PVE although has been a boring part of game, but its important development area for starting players. With updates on pve coming (elf), i would think that choosing a DPS unit will benefit you better. 
Of course all these are but my own opinion. You can help others to help you better by sharing more information about your intended style of gameplay. For example, will you be a whale or a f2p player. All the choices may change depending on your gaming profile. 
By method of elimination, since u will be getting a tank n healer 5 star, you need dps. choose from shizu, kane and freya. 
Freya(my bias) is unfortunately quite a sitting duck in arena. Shizu wld be good for mines, decent for arena, but compared to kane, and the potential of trigger teams, seems like kane is more useful.
Also considering the kind of heros you may get, kane will go with almost every hero combination you can think of. if you get an extra archer, good, then u can pair with kane for more triggering. if u chose a shizu, your formation choices maybe limited if you get an archer. In short kane goes well with almost every other hero at the start, will remain useful until the late game.
Bear in mind, for a successful grandranger u need lots of crit stat. so that might be hard to achieve for F2P or new player (3-4months). If you dont have resource and impatient, maybe gunslinger could be better, since it can use ares or zeus faith. 
So to summarise, depends on how patient you are, how much you are willing to spend, how long you intend to play the game. In each of this instances, going with kane, cant be very wrong.
Your one word answer to your worry: KANE.


To freydom:
I am quite patient as long it yearns good results or outcomes, I am unfortunately a FREE TO PLAY player and I intend to play this game for about 1 year?! So does it change who I should go for and just reply that ONE NAME WHO IS THE BEST VALIANT AMONG THE REST WHICH PROVES TO BE BETTER IN EVERY ASPECT LIKE PVP AND PVE AND WILL HELP ME BECOME PRO AND BE USEFUL TO ME MORE THAN ANY OF THE OTHER VALIANTS!!!
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