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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series: "Solo DD Trigger Team Build" - Anti Mega Bosses (Phoenix)

Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:23 pm

Ooooohhh i love squads with spirit walkers! +1000

EDIT: I must agree that berzerker is better than Miu in this case. Miu might trigger more chances for having 2 Vampiric Auraus+1 Vampiric Rune but the Zerk's damage after skill cant be compared to what Miu can offer with her chain attacks. Kudos to you, Mikan and that wonderful Samurai Shizu is sure adding deadly chains! :)
You know it! SW Kahuna rocks XD
Each attack of berserker is like x4-5 triggers of most dps units so he's definitely better. The Miu as main DD build was tested by GraySea and yup it was more consistent but has alot lesser firepower.

+1
Great job Mikan

I have been struggle raising my cybella GS unit, for that trigger proc to help clear Legend Stage event.

Until i saw your guide about this underrated unit,
LOL i have all perquisites units , DD, kahuna, miu, shizu, leon, why the hell im not doin it sooner lol lol

Thanks for the guide, a lot more easier now

-culdesac
OMG culdesac! One of my very first friends that lasted long in my list XD
Goodluck on clearing the event!

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Aight I didnt read the tittle, so it's for mega boss, aight it's good enough

Especially samurai shizu which is the only true shizu the dank lord approves of using.
Ughhh, I actually don't like you but since you're using a quad LB'd Samurai Shizu, maybe I can lessen that dislike ... just a little!
 
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series - "The Solo DD Trigger Team Build" (Destroy that Phoenix!)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:46 am

How about using Luthor bishop?
To prevent the main DD from dying? Yes, it could work with AB Luthor. The problem is that he only offers a def boost on a single target. It also does not have any regen effect like Siena's skill.

Great job Mikan, as always ^^
Thank you ;3

Very good Mikan..
This is why they not put Kahuna in Hero Selector at Valianite Shop..
This guy have dangerous aura..
XD

I can't wait for your next underrated hero guide..
XD


Spirit Walker Luthor might help. Right, Ferico-sama ?
I think Luthor Spirit Walker only triggerring himself to attack if others in his aura healed..
Thanks Munilet! Please boost my friendship levels! lol

For the next guide, I'm still in doubt if I should release it or not. It probably is the most broken team composition I have ever came up with and possibly the strongest out of all trigger builds. If people has the right units and used it on arena, chances are most of us not using that team composition will just die in 1 turn. :/

Scary fact, my friend already tested the build and it worked so well that he even had a 25x trigger in just a single attack.
Awesome Guide!
Thank you!

@Thread Update: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2937#p16955
Of course I am.. XD
Actually I just pick friends automatically, maybe I'll choose yours manually next time..
XD

25 trigger is crazy.. XD
If it risky then build for fun is okay..
I also currently working on poison triggered team just for fun..
The trigger is only up to 9 times every turn, consist of two Witch Doctor..
And it's so broken in top tier arena, maybe because lack of equipment..
I need to further improve Luthor passive healing, and upgrade two miracle rune sticked on Luthor Archbishop and Luthor WD..
Sometimes I put them on arena in early season..
Well no one reacted, so I think it's not annoying enough..
XDD

p.s "looking forward" is better term than "I can't wait" to express "something that I really wanted to see it soon" -okay, today's learn..
XD
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series: "Solo DD Trigger Team Build" - Anti Mega Bosses (Phoenix)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:11 am

After seeing your video, It is very refreshing that we not necessary need vincent to clear this event, (although without him, the game will drag on and have high potential of it going wrong)

But in general, we need trigger proc heroes to "replace" the effectiveness of vincent and make up for the damages to clear the wings. Because in my opinion, it is not the head and tails that is irritating, but the blind skills that the wings have that will become the source of your problem and then allowing the head to heal.

Then it means that we need specific trigger proc heroes to do the job and in the end, it still leave some people, like me, not able to clear trial 2. Its salty but hard truth that it takes time to build a hero up to 5* +2 and not necessary usable for next event or this event. So unless we spend the money to rush the heroes, or else we can only slowly build them up, since job keys also limited daily.
 
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series: "Solo DD Trigger Team Build" - Anti Mega Bosses (Phoenix)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:45 pm

Now , this is what I called a real guide, instead of roflstomping things with overpowered prestige gear , you actually managed to use heroes based on how their aura works *hatsoff*
looking forward to your next work :D
 
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series: "Solo DD Trigger Team Build" - Anti Mega Bosses (Phoenix)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:01 pm

I am now pretty darn sure there are even more combinations out there waiting to be discovered  :shock:
 
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series: "Solo DD Trigger Team Build" - Anti Mega Bosses (Phoenix)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:06 pm

After seeing your video, It is very refreshing that we not necessary need vincent to clear this event, (although without him, the game will drag on and have high potential of it going wrong)

But in general, we need trigger proc heroes to "replace" the effectiveness of vincent and make up for the damages to clear the wings. Because in my opinion, it is not the head and tails that is irritating, but the blind skills that the wings have that will become the source of your problem and then allowing the head to heal.

Then it means that we need specific trigger proc heroes to do the job and in the end, it still leave some people, like me, not able to clear trial 2. Its salty but hard truth that it takes time to build a hero up to 5* +2 and not necessary usable for next event or this event. So unless we spend the money to rush the heroes, or else we can only slowly build them up, since job keys also limited daily.
It should be a lesson learned. When building units, always thinks if what you're investing on is foolproof not just some one-trick pony, etc.

Now , this is what I called a real guide, instead of roflstomping things with overpowered prestige gear , you actually managed to use heroes based on how their aura works *hatsoff*
looking forward to your next work :D
Thank you! It might take a while before the next guide but it will come.

I am now pretty darn sure there are even more combinations out there waiting to be discovered  :shock:
Most should've been covered up already. New ones will just be improvised versions of the old or common builds. Though yes, I'm sure there are still a number of undiscovered builds but not alot since we're still very limited on trigger types.
 
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series - "The Solo DD Trigger Team Build"

Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:46 am

Frequently Asked Questions

Q1. I am poor but I have all the units required. Can I perform at the same caliber as your squad?
Answer: Yes, this team is actually very low cost. The only unit needed to be geared properly is the main DD. Other units need only to have enough defense to survive or have a unit that increase the survivability of the team like my suggestion, Siena.
Image   Image
While everyone were working on their event units (Miu, Ronan, etc.), all I was doing was improving my Berserker Vincent because I have bad luck getting event units. Those gears are nothing special, they are all farmable, nothing exclusive to paying players only.

Q2. I have made the team composition but ... OMG my RNG sucks! Please help me! What should I do?!
Answer: Simple answer is to boost the consistency of the triggers by adding units such as Siena or improve your Berserker stats further so it only requires lesser triggers to finish up whatever enemy you're fighting. 

If you are fighting against Phoenix at legendary and the boss only has a few HP left and your berserker buff already ran out, you can still try to kill the boss with normal taps. To prevent the boss from using it's skills as you normal tap it to death, you should taunt it using Leon or Darrion. Somehow, they made the phoenix only do normal attacks if taunted so this acts like a silence debuff.

If nothing else works, use the FDC (Forced Disconnect) trick. Shutdown VF application and open the app again, you should be able to resume the battle and it will start again back at Wave 1. There is a problem though with this method, for each FDC you do, you get a 5% stat penalty. So for example, you restarted your run 5 times, you get a -25% stat penalty.

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Trivia

Back on Faye event, I was using a Samurai Shizu ally on one of my legendary runs (event). When one of my unit died (unit behind Faye), it was replaced by the ally Shizu and luckily, the aura of the Shizu ally has an arrow pointing forwards. The formation was,

Shizu
Faye  -  Shizu

My Faye was already standing beside my own Samurai Shizu so what happened was the 2 samurai auras stacked on Faye. When I made my Faye attack, she straight killed Darrion with 12x triggers. It was then when I realized how strong 2 samurai shizu aura can be especially if an event unit is doing the attacks or maybe even a Berserker Vincent.

When the Miu event patched in, I had alot of troubles dealing with the bosses because I never was able to pull my own Miu. So I thought, if only there's another unit with the same aura as Samurai Shizu then I can invest on a Vincent Berserker and clear these ridiculous bosses similar to how my Faye destroyed Darrion before. I was then thinking critically until I remembered Kahuna. I remembered that Spiritwalker Kahuna had an aura similar to Samurai Shizu except that it requires a unit to be healed. So I thought "what if I just put a vampire rune on berserker, it should then work the same way as shizu's aura". The prototype of this build was born, I was using the setup below,

Faye
Vincent  -  Kahuna
Shizu

I thought, if Vincent gets hit, Faye will absorb the damage and heal him at the same time which can start the trigger fest. As I kept running this composition, I thought, "okay, this is very inconsistent, I need to make it consistent". So I thought, why not add one more lifesteal? I then worked on Leon THUS finalizing the build. Yes, I don't have a Miu and Darrion so my only option was Leon but it is not a bad thing. When I reached PoE 30, Luthor was at the edge of the map out of my berserker's reach and I do not have the luxury to walk forward first as it is very fatal due to Luthor's 15k+ ATK. Then I thought, Leon's skill was a blessing, I just had to pull Luthor in front of berserker and my berserker shredded Luthor into pieces. That is how I cleared PoE 30 w/o owning a Miu.

Thanks for reading my story ;3
Ahh, nice story..
Reading this made me try to guessing your future guide about the most triggered chain attack team build..

What do you think about this lineup?

Kai Samurai - Kane GR
Shizu Samurai
Freya Warlord - Cybella GS

This lineup is well balanced and still have it triggered chain potential without being cancerous..
We can replace Freya WL with Freya Berserker to add more attack plus free stun (if she get hitted)
Vincent Berserker is OK but not recommended because he doesn't have triggered attack aura..

If you want more cancer I suggest this one..

empty - Luthor Archbishop - empty
Miu Samurai - Cybella GS - Kahuna Spirit Walker
empty - Lucille Archbishop - empty

Lucille Archbishop can be replaced by Teresa Inquisitor

Or this..

empty - empty - Luthor Archbishop
Freya Warlord - Cybella GS - Kahuna Witch Doctor
empty - empty - Lucille Archbishop

When talking about Kahuna there is so much combination to bring up..
But we need to kick ranger and Kahuna from this party, so I suggest this one..

empty - Luthor Archbishop - empty
Vincent Berserker - Lucille Spirit Walker - Lucille AB
empty - Teresa Inquisitor - empty

Please no heal triggered attack!!

Kai Magebane
Shizu Samurai - Ronan MW
Shizu Magebane - Shizu Ninja

That's it..
All combination I could thinking..
And of course it's hard to build..
XDD
 
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series - "The Solo DD Trigger Team Build"

Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:39 am

Frequently Asked Questions

Q1. I am poor but I have all the units required. Can I perform at the same caliber as your squad?
Answer: Yes, this team is actually very low cost. The only unit needed to be geared properly is the main DD. Other units need only to have enough defense to survive or have a unit that increase the survivability of the team like my suggestion, Siena.
Image   Image
While everyone were working on their event units (Miu, Ronan, etc.), all I was doing was improving my Berserker Vincent because I have bad luck getting event units. Those gears are nothing special, they are all farmable, nothing exclusive to paying players only.

Q2. I have made the team composition but ... OMG my RNG sucks! Please help me! What should I do?!
Answer: Simple answer is to boost the consistency of the triggers by adding units such as Siena or improve your Berserker stats further so it only requires lesser triggers to finish up whatever enemy you're fighting. 

If you are fighting against Phoenix at legendary and the boss only has a few HP left and your berserker buff already ran out, you can still try to kill the boss with normal taps. To prevent the boss from using it's skills as you normal tap it to death, you should taunt it using Leon or Darrion. Somehow, they made the phoenix only do normal attacks if taunted so this acts like a silence debuff.

If nothing else works, use the FDC (Forced Disconnect) trick. Shutdown VF application and open the app again, you should be able to resume the battle and it will start again back at Wave 1. There is a problem though with this method, for each FDC you do, you get a 5% stat penalty. So for example, you restarted your run 5 times, you get a -25% stat penalty.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Trivia

Back on Faye event, I was using a Samurai Shizu ally on one of my legendary runs (event). When one of my unit died (unit behind Faye), it was replaced by the ally Shizu and luckily, the aura of the Shizu ally has an arrow pointing forwards. The formation was,

Shizu
Faye  -  Shizu

My Faye was already standing beside my own Samurai Shizu so what happened was the 2 samurai auras stacked on Faye. When I made my Faye attack, she straight killed Darrion with 12x triggers. It was then when I realized how strong 2 samurai shizu aura can be especially if an event unit is doing the attacks or maybe even a Berserker Vincent.

When the Miu event patched in, I had alot of troubles dealing with the bosses because I never was able to pull my own Miu. So I thought, if only there's another unit with the same aura as Samurai Shizu then I can invest on a Vincent Berserker and clear these ridiculous bosses similar to how my Faye destroyed Darrion before. I was then thinking critically until I remembered Kahuna. I remembered that Spiritwalker Kahuna had an aura similar to Samurai Shizu except that it requires a unit to be healed. So I thought "what if I just put a vampire rune on berserker, it should then work the same way as shizu's aura". The prototype of this build was born, I was using the setup below,

Faye
Vincent  -  Kahuna
Shizu

I thought, if Vincent gets hit, Faye will absorb the damage and heal him at the same time which can start the trigger fest. As I kept running this composition, I thought, "okay, this is very inconsistent, I need to make it consistent". So I thought, why not add one more lifesteal? I then worked on Leon THUS finalizing the build. Yes, I don't have a Miu and Darrion so my only option was Leon but it is not a bad thing. When I reached PoE 30, Luthor was at the edge of the map out of my berserker's reach and I do not have the luxury to walk forward first as it is very fatal due to Luthor's 15k+ ATK. Then I thought, Leon's skill was a blessing, I just had to pull Luthor in front of berserker and my berserker shredded Luthor into pieces. That is how I cleared PoE 30 w/o owning a Miu.

Thanks for reading my story ;3
Ahh, nice story..
Reading this made me try to guessing your future guide about the most triggered chain attack team build..

What do you think about this lineup?

Kai Samurai - Kane GR
Shizu Samurai
Freya Warlord - Cybella GS

This lineup is well balanced and still have it triggered chain potential without being cancerous..
We can replace Freya WL with Freya Berserker to add more attack plus free stun (if she get hitted)
Vincent Berserker is OK but not recommended because he doesn't have triggered attack aura..

If you want more cancer I suggest this one..

empty - Luthor Archbishop - empty
Miu Samurai - Cybella GS - Kahuna Spirit Walker
empty - Lucille Archbishop - empty

Lucille Archbishop can be replaced by Teresa Inquisitor

Or this..

empty - empty - Luthor Archbishop
Freya Warlord - Cybella GS - Kahuna Witch Doctor
empty - empty  - Lucille Archbishop

When talking about Kahuna there is so much combination to bring up..
But we need to kick ranger and Kahuna from this party, so I suggest this one..

empty - Luthor Archbishop - empty
Vincent Berserker - Lucille Spirit Walker - Lucille AB
empty - Teresa Inquisitor - empty

Please no heal triggered attack!!

Kai Magebane
Shizu Samurai - Ronan MW
Shizu Magebane - Shizu Ninja

That's it..
All combination I could thinking..
And of course it's hard to build..
XDD
Hmmm ... just look forward to the next episode ;3 though it might really take a while before I release. Probably within the next event or something?
 
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series: "Solo DD Trigger Team Build" - Anti Mega Bosses (Phoenix)

Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:28 am

Very good guide Mr Mikan +1
 
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Re: [Guide] Underrated Heroes Series: "Solo DD Trigger Team Build" - Anti Mega Bosses (Phoenix)

Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:25 pm

Very good guide Mr Mikan +1
Thanks Reed! Please boost our friendship pts further XD
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