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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:38 pm

whats paywall are u guys even talking about? have u seen the 1st place player in the arena? he is even using monsters in his squad and im pretty sure the monsters are not 'VIP content'.
 
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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:41 pm

whats paywall are u guys even talking about? have u seen the 1st place player in the arena? he is even using monsters in his squad and im pretty sure the monsters are not 'VIP content'.
Pretty sure this game has no paywall for content so far, hopefully not in future, well I'll be too early to judge. 
 
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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:43 pm

whats paywall are u guys even talking about? have u seen the 1st place player in the arena? he is even using monsters in his squad and im pretty sure the monsters are not 'VIP content'.
Pretty sure this game has no paywall for content so far, hopefully not in future, well I'll be too early to judge. 
But... why talk about things which you are not sure if it will happen and talk the game down?

Like the admin said, just try and help with improving the current content.
 
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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:54 pm

whats paywall are u guys even talking about? have u seen the 1st place player in the arena? he is even using monsters in his squad and im pretty sure the monsters are not 'VIP content'.
Pretty sure this game has no paywall for content so far, hopefully not in future, well I'll be too early to judge. 
But... why talk about things which you are not sure if it will happen and talk the game down?

Like the admin said, just try and help with improving the current content.
Must I say again, because the game follows the same exact mechanics & monetization methods from the Chinese game and the publisher is Funplus which are the pioneers...
The paywalls in those game are content which are gated to the players since you need high levels & rarity to clear them as the monsters suddenly does ton more damage than usual, grinding for rarity and levels in those game are horrendous, I did not state by any means this game has paywalls, I did said games from China or games base off the Chinese mechanic has paywalls though.
 
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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:21 pm

This is just the CBT, Might as well enjoy the game as F2P until official launch. Just see how far we can progress as f2p AND if the game is not too greedy in its p2p aspects i dont mind spending on the game at launch. If not might as well drop it and find other alternatives even though the game is quite good.

From developers point of view its better for them to have a smaller player base of whales than a larger player base of f2p so i doubt anything will be done about the current system, dont blame the devs this is their game if we dont like it then we can just move along.

As for gacha games in general, it is true Japanese games tend to be more friendly towards casual players this is due to the fact there is a large competition for similar games.
Some of the good ones are Bravefrontier and Final fantasy brave exvius. 
But in Global theres not really much competition for these types of games (maybe in the future?) so the company can get greedy and get away with it XD.
You can always use sites like siliconera or kongbakpao for info on upcoming games 
 
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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:25 pm

Pretty sure this game has no paywall for content so far, hopefully not in future, well I'll be too early to judge. 
But... why talk about things which you are not sure if it will happen and talk the game down?

Like the admin said, just try and help with improving the current content.
Must I say again, because the game follows the same exact mechanics & monetization methods from the Chinese game and the publisher is Funplus which are the pioneers...
The paywalls in those game are content which are gated to the players since you need high levels & rarity to clear them as the monsters suddenly does ton more damage than usual, grinding for rarity and levels in those game are horrendous, I did not state by any means this game has paywalls, I did said games from China or games base off the Chinese mechanic has paywalls though.
Korean mobile games are gated heavily for this "sudden increase in monster toughness". Seven Knights and HIT are 2 of the more recent ones I play, and the community is flourishing. Have yet to meet such "paywall" in VF though.
 
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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:35 pm

But... why talk about things which you are not sure if it will happen and talk the game down?

Like the admin said, just try and help with improving the current content.
Must I say again, because the game follows the same exact mechanics & monetization methods from the Chinese game and the publisher is Funplus which are the pioneers...
The paywalls in those game are content which are gated to the players since you need high levels & rarity to clear them as the monsters suddenly does ton more damage than usual, grinding for rarity and levels in those game are horrendous, I did not state by any means this game has paywalls, I did said games from China or games base off the Chinese mechanic has paywalls though.
Korean mobile games are gated heavily for this "sudden increase in monster toughness". Seven Knights and HIT are 2 of the more recent ones I play, and the community is flourishing. Have yet to meet such "paywall" in VF though.
I heard good things about 7 Knights probably 1 of the friendly Korean game from netmarble not too sure about HIT, as for Nexon I can only remember that Mabinogi Duels is a pretty good mobile game from my experience and has quite a good system but too grindy competitive for me haha.
 
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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:48 pm

Must I say again, because the game follows the same exact mechanics & monetization methods from the Chinese game and the publisher is Funplus which are the pioneers...
The paywalls in those game are content which are gated to the players since you need high levels & rarity to clear them as the monsters suddenly does ton more damage than usual, grinding for rarity and levels in those game are horrendous, I did not state by any means this game has paywalls, I did said games from China or games base off the Chinese mechanic has paywalls though.
Korean mobile games are gated heavily for this "sudden increase in monster toughness". Seven Knights and HIT are 2 of the more recent ones I play, and the community is flourishing. Have yet to meet such "paywall" in VF though.
I heard good things about 7 Knights probably 1 of the friendly Korean game from netmarble not too sure about HIT, as for Nexon I can only remember that Mabinogi Duels is a pretty good mobile game from my experience and has quite a good system but too grindy competitive for me haha.
The team referenced Seven Knights, one of the many games we researched on, for the monetization system.

We are still curious to know what "paywall" you are referring to. We have not made any content, hero, items, or anything else exclusive to those with Prestige level. 

Do enlighten us.

Thank you.
 
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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:48 pm

I understand the point your trying to make with this post heatz your basically saying Funplus has been known to practice shady p2w practices in their games and we should be prepared for that to happen with this game. Like they saying goes "history repeats itself."
 
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Re: Facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:55 pm

I understand the point your trying to make with this post heatz your basically saying Funplus has been known to practice shady p2w practices in their games and we should be prepared for that to happen with this game. Like they saying goes "history repeats itself."
It would be wiser to judge based on game content rather than past record.

FunPlus, our global partner, currently only has 2 English mobile games if I am not wrong. 

So far, FunPlus has been nothing but helpful in the whole development process, which means all features are not influenced by them, but by other games and player habits the team researched on.
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