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Re: Presumed facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:35 pm

Actually, I think a lot of players are too focused on getting a Valiant. Some of the 4* and 3* (with chance to upgrade further) heroes have pretty sick skills. I'm grooming some of these heroes for my pvp squad.

If you look at the players on the top of the arena, their teams are not filled with Valiants either.

Also, 3* heroes are useful to be deployed on expeditions or fused with your main heroes.
 
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Re: Presumed facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:57 pm

Actually, I think a lot of players are too focused on getting a Valiant. Some of the 4* and 3* (with chance to upgrade further) heroes have pretty sick skills. I'm grooming some of these heroes for my pvp squad.

If you look at the players on the top of the arena, their teams are not filled with Valiants either.

Also, 3* heroes are useful to be deployed on expeditions or fused with your main heroes.
I agree to that, each and every hero, despite being in the same class, they have different skill sets and stats.

I also discovered that "Faith" HEAVILY affects the stats. More inputs to come once I get more screenshots to prove this.
 
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Re: Presumed facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:15 pm

Valiants should be extremely rare in this game as if you see the codex ingame, they are classified as "Special". 

As a calculative buying user like me (Only bought the best optimized packages), I will definitely happy with heroes that can go 5s and slowly train them up. 

Just another note if every testers here notice, you will get your 2nd Valiant in last day of 4th weeks!!!
 
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Re: Presumed facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:40 pm

i know some games that has a balance game

Game of Dice by JoyCity (monopoly with card game)
you can win against lvl 30 if you are level 1
depends on your strategy in card creating combo by using pull drag etc., dice controlling and luck 

Soccer Spirits by Com2us ( in Arena here only AI/Computer can control both players)
HomeRun Battle 2 by Com2us this game can beat game buyers even if they have whole set of bat uniforms etc. (requires skill though)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... oid.common

Texas Holdem Poker 

Pokemon Go 
Are those all hero/monster collecting games?

Sounds more like casual games though. And comparing with Pokemon GO is... kind of out there :o
Well Try to read the question above first OK

It only says mobile game that has a balance between F2p and P2p
 
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Re: Presumed facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:04 pm

Lies on how you define "Balance" at the end.

For me, balance in such game is the ability to achieve what p2p players can achieve over time (may b 2 months or so).

For his case, he was pointing out that balance is where regardless of what kind of user you are, VIP user, normal user. You'd still be on equal footing and chances of normal user>VIP user is still there. It is not unusual for some games such as the ones he pointed out, as well as those rhythm games (dancing/music).

And possibly there could be much more perceptions out of for "balance" that we aren't aware of. Best solution over this issue? Make a poll and get people to vote. Make a petition etc.

Sorry to say, despite I'm saddened by the fact that whales own me so badly in arena, I still think it is alright, they paid, I didn't (actually I did, just not at their extend).
 
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Re: Presumed facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:06 pm

Sorry to say, despite I'm saddened by the fact that whales own me so badly in arena, I still think it is alright, they paid, I didn't (actually I did, just not at their extend).
How badly? :o And they are all Valiants?
 
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Re: Presumed facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:11 pm

Hmm..? Losing almost all of my arena battles due to poor team composition and lack of investment in equipment. Overall, lacking in resources. Which gems can buy.

Not all are Valiants, but some are just too much. "Silence whole team" ggwp.
 
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Re: Presumed facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:15 pm

Hmm..? Losing almost all of my arena battles due to poor team composition and lack of investment in equipment. Overall, lacking in resources. Which gems can buy.

Not all are Valiants, but some are just too much. "Silence whole team" ggwp.
I am staying away from the arena for now. Farm up first. F2P players like us need like 5 times the time to catch up. Do-able, but just longer :(
 
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Re: Presumed facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:29 pm

Hihi do Arena for the sake of "Daily quests" if they ever do come out. Personally, I still need to put in more time to gear up and pray my next Gem summon which I would most likely buy soon gives me something good. ;/...
 
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Re: Presumed facts about Valiant Force (Lets be real)

Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:48 pm

Actually, I think a lot of players are too focused on getting a Valiant. Some of the 4* and 3* (with chance to upgrade further) heroes have pretty sick skills. I'm grooming some of these heroes for my pvp squad.

If you look at the players on the top of the arena, their teams are not filled with Valiants either.

Also, 3* heroes are useful to be deployed on expeditions or fused with your main heroes.
I agree to that, each and every hero, despite being in the same class, they have different skill sets and stats.

I also discovered that "Faith" HEAVILY affects the stats. More inputs to come once I get more screenshots to prove this.
In the general units viewing tab you can see the stat changes for seperate faiths at max level etc. Its kinda obvious that faith affects stats quite heavily.
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