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Is Kahuna meant to be a solo healer for your team?

Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:29 pm

I see that Kahuna is one of the featured heroes but when I first started this game, I did roll a 4-star Kahuna (Zeus faith I think). I had no other healer then but found that (s)he was practically useless in healing my team until his skill activated at the 4th turn. I found his aura was unreliable as well, but at 4-star, he only links to two other heroes. I replaced him with a Teresa as soon as I could and ended up using him as fodder. I find Teresa's party shields/healing to be more versatile, along with Lucille Inquisitor's 100% damage reduction.

Now I rolled another 3-star Kahuna but I don't really know what to do with him. I tend to do more PvE. I'm mostly F2P with Emiko's Delivery purchase. No way do I intend to compete with the Whales or the other levels of P2P. 

So what is the best way to use him? His skillset seems to work better for arena since he can reduce healing or reflect damage. Also it seems to be a MUST to pair him with another healer or a hero that can trigger heals like Faye Holy Defender, Victoria/Darrion blood knight, Drake Gladiator or Leon Zealot. It just seems like you have to build around him specifically and he seems to be very situational. I might be missing something but I don't see the appeal of doing so.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Is Kahuna meant to be a solo healer for your team?

Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:35 pm

I see that Kahuna is one of the featured heroes but when I first started this game, I did roll a 4-star Kahuna (Zeus faith I think). I had no other healer then but found that (s)he was practically useless in healing my team until his skill activated at the 4th turn. I found his aura was unreliable as well, but at 4-star, he only links to two other heroes. I replaced him with a Teresa as soon as I could and ended up using him as fodder. I find Teresa's party shields/healing to be more versatile, along with Lucille Inquisitor's 100% damage reduction.

Now I rolled another 3-star Kahuna but I don't really know what to do with him. I tend to do more PvE. I'm mostly F2P with Emiko's Delivery purchase. No way do I intend to compete with the Whales or the other levels of P2P. 

So what is the best way to use him? His skillset seems to work better for arena since he can reduce healing or reflect damage. Also it seems to be a MUST to pair him with another healer or a hero that can trigger heals like Faye Holy Defender, Victoria/Darrion blood knight, Drake Gladiator or Leon Zealot. It just seems like you have to build around him specifically and he seems to be very situational. I might be missing something but I don't see the appeal of doing so.

Thanks in advance.
Check the SDD team build, he is meant to be use as a heal trigger to allow berserk to trigger more hit then any trigger. And heal trigger can be used together with leech like leon, drake, etc.
 
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Re: Is Kahuna meant to be a solo healer for your team?

Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:54 pm

I see that Kahuna is one of the featured heroes but when I first started this game, I did roll a 4-star Kahuna (Zeus faith I think). I had no other healer then but found that (s)he was practically useless in healing my team until his skill activated at the 4th turn. I found his aura was unreliable as well, but at 4-star, he only links to two other heroes. I replaced him with a Teresa as soon as I could and ended up using him as fodder. I find Teresa's party shields/healing to be more versatile, along with Lucille Inquisitor's 100% damage reduction.

Now I rolled another 3-star Kahuna but I don't really know what to do with him. I tend to do more PvE. I'm mostly F2P with Emiko's Delivery purchase. No way do I intend to compete with the Whales or the other levels of P2P. 

So what is the best way to use him? His skillset seems to work better for arena since he can reduce healing or reflect damage. Also it seems to be a MUST to pair him with another healer or a hero that can trigger heals like Faye Holy Defender, Victoria/Darrion blood knight, Drake Gladiator or Leon Zealot. It just seems like you have to build around him specifically and he seems to be very situational. I might be missing something but I don't see the appeal of doing so.

Thanks in advance.
What do you mean by using him as Fodder? If you fused him as power up or anything, please do not use any 5* Potential hero for this in future. (5* heroes has 3 layer of job in Train page)
And back to your question, Kahuna is really a Trigger-Aura hero, either by Self heal and trigger others or Other is healed and might hit more than once.
If you are a starter (or don't even have more than five 5* heroes), Kahuna is NOT you all-rounded healer, Teresa is better is Priest line, and Luthor is better in Sage line.
You could save Kahuna for now, and train someone like Teresa. But all in all, I advice you to 5*+2 for Teresa is enough, but don't go limit breaking them yet.
 
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Re: Is Kahuna meant to be a solo healer for your team?

Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:20 am

YES A BIG YES! Some people might see him as an Aura Slave Spirit Walker but low-cooldown Healers are gold in the arena specially if your opponents usually kill your heroes within 4-5 turns.

In my case, my berserker is usually targetted by rangers in the first 4-5 turns until he dies and cant use his awesome skill but putting an amazing Lucille Archbishop or SW Kahuna can easily mitigate this until your berserker goes BERSERK! AB Lucille has amazing one-single heal and shield while SW Kahuna has amazing single HoT and Reflect which would be very useful against hard-hitting rangers. Hope this helps! :)
 
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Re: Is Kahuna meant to be a solo healer for your team?

Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:50 am

I see that Kahuna is one of the featured heroes but when I first started this game, I did roll a 4-star Kahuna (Zeus faith I think). I had no other healer then but found that (s)he was practically useless in healing my team until his skill activated at the 4th turn. I found his aura was unreliable as well, but at 4-star, he only links to two other heroes. I replaced him with a Teresa as soon as I could and ended up using him as fodder. I find Teresa's party shields/healing to be more versatile, along with Lucille Inquisitor's 100% damage reduction.

Now I rolled another 3-star Kahuna but I don't really know what to do with him. I tend to do more PvE. I'm mostly F2P with Emiko's Delivery purchase. No way do I intend to compete with the Whales or the other levels of P2P. 

So what is the best way to use him? His skillset seems to work better for arena since he can reduce healing or reflect damage. Also it seems to be a MUST to pair him with another healer or a hero that can trigger heals like Faye Holy Defender, Victoria/Darrion blood knight, Drake Gladiator or Leon Zealot. It just seems like you have to build around him specifically and he seems to be very situational. I might be missing something but I don't see the appeal of doing so.

Thanks in advance.
What do you mean by using him as Fodder? If you fused him as power up or anything, please do not use any 5* Potential hero for this in future. (5* heroes has 3 layer of job in Train page)
And back to your question, Kahuna is really a Trigger-Aura hero, either by Self heal and trigger others or Other is healed and might hit more than once.
If you are a starter (or don't even have more than five 5* heroes), Kahuna is NOT you all-rounded healer, Teresa is better is Priest line, and Luthor is better in Sage line.
You could save Kahuna for now, and train someone like Teresa. But all in all, I advice you to 5*+2 for Teresa is enough, but don't go limit breaking them yet.
Wait how is Luthor useful in the sage line. I happened to roll a 4* Teresa Priest (gonna be AB) and a 4* Luthor Sage, so please tell me how can Luthor be useful and if so which path SW or WD my luthor happens to be zeus faith..
What i think you mean by him being useful is building him ATK , which i find kinda not worth. I'd rather go ahead and dump all of the ATK stuff on my zerker, or one of my rangers..
Can you elaborate :)
 
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Re: Is Kahuna meant to be a solo healer for your team?

Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:47 am

I see that Kahuna is one of the featured heroes but when I first started this game, I did roll a 4-star Kahuna (Zeus faith I think). I had no other healer then but found that (s)he was practically useless in healing my team until his skill activated at the 4th turn. I found his aura was unreliable as well, but at 4-star, he only links to two other heroes. I replaced him with a Teresa as soon as I could and ended up using him as fodder. I find Teresa's party shields/healing to be more versatile, along with Lucille Inquisitor's 100% damage reduction.

Now I rolled another 3-star Kahuna but I don't really know what to do with him. I tend to do more PvE. I'm mostly F2P with Emiko's Delivery purchase. No way do I intend to compete with the Whales or the other levels of P2P. 

So what is the best way to use him? His skillset seems to work better for arena since he can reduce healing or reflect damage. Also it seems to be a MUST to pair him with another healer or a hero that can trigger heals like Faye Holy Defender, Victoria/Darrion blood knight, Drake Gladiator or Leon Zealot. It just seems like you have to build around him specifically and he seems to be very situational. I might be missing something but I don't see the appeal of doing so.

Thanks in advance.
What do you mean by using him as Fodder? If you fused him as power up or anything, please do not use any 5* Potential hero for this in future. (5* heroes has 3 layer of job in Train page)
And back to your question, Kahuna is really a Trigger-Aura hero, either by Self heal and trigger others or Other is healed and might hit more than once.
If you are a starter (or don't even have more than five 5* heroes), Kahuna is NOT you all-rounded healer, Teresa is better is Priest line, and Luthor is better in Sage line.
You could save Kahuna for now, and train someone like Teresa. But all in all, I advice you to 5*+2 for Teresa is enough, but don't go limit breaking them yet.
Wait how is Luthor useful in the sage line. I happened to roll a 4* Teresa Priest (gonna be AB) and a 4* Luthor Sage, so please tell me how can Luthor be useful and if so which path SW or WD my luthor happens to be zeus faith..
What i think you mean by him being useful is building him ATK , which i find kinda not worth. I'd rather go ahead and dump all of the ATK stuff on my zerker, or one of my rangers..
Can you elaborate :)
Wow, you really did see thru it, Luthor Sage indeed is a attacking unit, and yes, it is still better to build a real attacker like Berserker.
Both Teresa Priest route are good, Inquisistor in alright if you can survive smaller things and heal every turn, AB is the one good in counter-burst like Faye shield, just weaker but with heal. 
 
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Re: Is Kahuna meant to be a solo healer for your team?

Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:20 am

Thank you for your feedback, DavidKim, whodahackii and Ferico. 

At that time, whodahackii, I did not even have five 5* heroes and yes, I did fuse that 4* Kahuna for training up another hero; it gave much satisfaction as I was so disappointed and annoyed by the "uselessness" of Kahuna back then after saving up 400 gems for that premium summon. Thanks for your tip on 5*+2 for Teresa. That's what I intended too. 

Regarding the SDD comp, I don't have the necessary heroes to pull it off yet... still levelling up Vincent berserker. I do have a BK Darrion though. But I don't know, is that combo viable for Legendary Story mode or Arena too? It will also sidetrack from my champion/mystic heavy team. RNG gave me 2 Kieras, 2 Ronans, 2 Zedds and a bunch of Lulus for my first few pulls (I got 2 valiants from premium summons, one Freya and one Kiera). 

I think I will put off Kahuna for now. I haven't fully trained my Teresa or Vincent Berserker yet to their final +2 stages. Still need more fodder heroes. I guess I could substitute Kahuna for Teresa later, at least in Arena.  I'm not really that keen on arena but found that matches are fairer and it's easier to climb on the Taiwan server with sub-optimal compositions. Before the Kahuna came along, I had actually planned on playing around with a Faye HD and Cybella RH, just for kicks, once my Teresa and Vincent reach the full +2. I guess I'll decide later depending on what else RNG gives me. Thanks again for your inputs, all.
 
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Re: Is Kahuna meant to be a solo healer for your team?

Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:29 am

SDD team build is purely PVE, it sucks on arena.
 
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Re: Is Kahuna meant to be a solo healer for your team?

Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:31 pm

SDD team build is purely PVE, it sucks on arena.
I beg to disagree. I use sdd team in arena and it's really good. I only get stomped by, heavily equipped team. Other than that, all goes well.
 
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Re: Is Kahuna meant to be a solo healer for your team?

Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:45 pm

It will only suck if you don't know how to play them.
Looking down on other's strategy just because it's less appealing won't make your strategy stronger.
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