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I do not like the direction that the Dev's are cooking up on updates for the new heroes.  Implementing new heroes that are extremely powerful than the preexisting heroes seems like a cheap cash grab to me.  It seems the devs make every new hero so powerful that everyone will have to spend more to get the new heroes into their squad which in turn makes the old heroes almost obsolete.  I hardly see any diversity in the arena lineup these days. All are just different variations of a meta arena squad.  There is just no room for diversity anymore. Makes me sad to see where the direction of the game is going.

I can see VF going Seven Knight's route. I remember when they released Lubu over there lol.
No counter for him other than another Lubu for almost 4 months.

I understand the need to make new heroes better so that new players can quickly be good at pvp, but I still feel the summoners are powercreep due to their quick cool down. In arena that turns are counted fast, non-magic units almost have no way to fight back and just be there to die. Not to mention that pet gains turn immediately. And yes the only way to counter summoners is to have summoners in your team. Someone should start the thread in feedback section to gather comments about summoners.

I don't think that's entirely true.

Mage/tank teams still work regardless if they have Talissa in their line up. Just see WonG's team last week when he hit Legend. Quad Archer comps if fully decked out still kicks ass (e.g. Emperor). 

Summoners now are relatively frail and fall easily to Assassins and Archers. 

I don't think that's entirely true.

Mage/tank teams still work regardless if they have Talissa in their line up. Just see WonG's team last week when he hit Legend. Quad Archer comps if fully decked out still kicks ass (e.g. Emperor). 

Summoners now are relatively frail and fall easily to Assassins and Archers. 

fight cancer with cancer... welp, VF really is heading to wrong direction

When they announced from the developer blog that they are going to add Summoner type heroes, I said to myself "these shit are gonna be op af", so as other people were excited, I was just looked forward to the raid instead (which still has very poor implementation lol) And boy, I was right.

I actually think that the devs are introducing power creep units so people are inclined to summon more and they earn more. And do not give me the crap that you'll get it as reward or drop; those are band-aid solutions to what is really happening here.

I second the suggestion that someone should start a thread regarding summoners in feedback section.  For one, I think what makes the summoners really problematic in arena is the instant turn of pet after summoning it. If you have an enemy with a champ and mystic summoner, and a Ronan, you are fucked up. Ronan will surely be able to cast his skill before the end of round 1. And yes, the only way to counter it is to follow the same line. Its basically the same scenario as archer cancer all over again, the only way to win is to fight cancer vs cancer and victory will only depend on whoever gets to fire his guns first.

As much as I enjoy the summoners' gameplay, I must agree that they have significantly changed the landscape in VF making pre-existing heroes obsolete. Even valiants are nothing compared to the prowess of the summoners (though we expect a makeover in the future).

To be honest, I feel cheated that my level 40 vincent zerk could be replaced by a level 30 sven with much better damage output. I put months of effort in limit breaking my heroes just to see them benched now. I appreciate the effort of VF in introducing new aspects but these are relatively fast and frustrating to catch up on.

I'd suggest to review the gameplay of the old heroes to boost their competitiveness against the current meta.

#Ferico4Change

I don't think that's entirely true.

Mage/tank teams still work regardless if they have Talissa in their line up. Just see WonG's team last week when he hit Legend. Quad Archer comps if fully decked out still kicks ass (e.g. Emperor). 

Summoners now are relatively frail and fall easily to Assassins and Archers. 

fight cancer with cancer... welp, VF really is heading to wrong direction

yes i also agree that VF is heading the wrong way, but suicya you can't fight cancer with cancer if you don't have the gems and the luck with getting summoners as well, and yes they are destryoing the balance already a lot of VALIANTS and 5* heroes (especially zedd) are fast getting OBSOLETE.

I don't think that's entirely true.

Mage/tank teams still work regardless if they have Talissa in their line up. Just see WonG's team last week when he hit Legend. Quad Archer comps if fully decked out still kicks ass (e.g. Emperor). 

Summoners now are relatively frail and fall easily to Assassins and Archers. 

fight cancer with cancer... welp, VF really is heading to wrong direction

yes i also agree that VF is heading the wrong way, but suicya you can't fight cancer with cancer if you don't have the gems and the luck with getting summoners as well, and yes they are destryoing the balance already a lot of VALIANTS and 5* heroes (especially zedd) are fast getting OBSOLETE.

yea, RNG still blocking your path when getting summoners. Judging how the devs move, if they won't nerf those cancers, they'll most likely add another cancer that counters the current cancers.

I really hope they will improve the old ones though. I can still remember the day I wanted Zedd so bad when I was new in the game.