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There are many ways to beat her but yeah... she is really strong in the arena currently.

Mages/Healers can use Miracle/Resist Raid sets which will negate her jump or bait her with a unit. You can pretty much know she's going to jump who if you practice enough.

- Airk of Infinity

Ok guys,
Yes Rhea Gladiator is super useful in Story or Event mode; 
And yes, Rhea is a unique unit with tricky skills and causes a lot of pain in the Arena, however she is not an OP unit.
You can neutralize her threat with many tactics base on your squad set up; for example focus damage before she could do any harm, or simply casting effect such as: freeze, sleep, delay or stun, etc...
In my case, the combination of Freya and Tess counter pretty well: Freya deal massive damage when Tess freeze to disable her (works even facing with Rhea dragoon)
So Arena is all TACTIC, not just about some Unit that you think OP.
Cheers,

Sure Rhea is strong, but not that hard to deal with. A zerker can most of the tine, kill her in one skill, and with defenders obtaining the score tiles, (faye hd/altima pally = virtually unkillable) then you win.

Unless you have two more squishies which most probably is the case, then you'd best pray that you get rid of her asap.

Rhea is a good hero BUT NOT OP as many newbies said,
They said Rhea dragoon can one jump KO mage/priest, which is not true.
Her jump is a magic damage, with new damage calculation,
MAG can reduce a lot damage from her jump, means that, 
with same lvl of equipment she cannot kill mage/priest in the back row with one jump KO.
U can check on top arena players, if she is OP, Rhea must be anywhere, BUT ITS not.
A different between equipment/rune/TP/set up is a big gap, 
check ur item and opponent first, before complain about hero. thx

Rhea is a good hero BUT NOT OP as many newbies said,
They said Rhea dragoon can one jump KO mage/priest, which is not true.
Her jump is a magic damage, with new damage calculation,
MAG can reduce a lot damage from her jump, means that, 
with same lvl of equipment she cannot kill mage/priest in the back row with one jump KO.
U can check on top arena players, if she is OP, Rhea must be anywhere, BUT ITS not.
A different between equipment/rune/TP/set up is a big gap, 
check ur item and opponent first, before complain about hero. thx

Her Jump does not one-shot healers and mystics. Her Aura, on-attack skill and natural high ATK after celestial form do.
The reason she's not in the top players' squad is that because of the current meta favors Tanks and Rangers more and Rhea does not counter tanks and rangers. She counters other squad and hence discouraging diversity.
I've gotten used to her and is planning to build a team to counter her so she's less of a problem now.

But please check your fact, others' argument and make sure your argument is correct before claiming others' argument are wrong. Thanks

Rhea is a good hero BUT NOT OP as many newbies said,
They said Rhea dragoon can one jump KO mage/priest, which is not true.
Her jump is a magic damage, with new damage calculation,
MAG can reduce a lot damage from her jump, means that, 
with same lvl of equipment she cannot kill mage/priest in the back row with one jump KO.
U can check on top arena players, if she is OP, Rhea must be anywhere, BUT ITS not.
A different between equipment/rune/TP/set up is a big gap, 
check ur item and opponent first, before complain about hero. thx

Her Jump does not one-shot healers and mystics. Her Aura, on-attack skill and natural high ATK after celestial form do.
The reason she's not in the top players' squad is that because of the current meta favors Tanks and Rangers more and Rhea does not counter tanks and rangers. She counters other squad and hence discouraging diversity.
I've gotten used to her and is planning to build a team to counter her so she's less of a problem now.

But please check your fact, others' argument and make sure your argument is correct before claiming others' argument are wrong. Thanks

1. My fact is on Author comment in the last comment in page 1, plz check it out my friend.
2. As u said, its Tanks/Rangers meta. So y r we here?
please check your fact, others' argument and make sure your argument is correct before claiming others' argument are wrong. Thanks

Rhea is a good hero BUT NOT OP as many newbies said,
They said Rhea dragoon can one jump KO mage/priest, which is not true.
Her jump is a magic damage, with new damage calculation,
MAG can reduce a lot damage from her jump, means that, 
with same lvl of equipment she cannot kill mage/priest in the back row with one jump KO.
U can check on top arena players, if she is OP, Rhea must be anywhere, BUT ITS not.
A different between equipment/rune/TP/set up is a big gap, 
check ur item and opponent first, before complain about hero. thx

Her Jump does not one-shot healers and mystics. Her Aura, on-attack skill and natural high ATK after celestial form do.
The reason she's not in the top players' squad is that because of the current meta favors Tanks and Rangers more and Rhea does not counter tanks and rangers. She counters other squad and hence discouraging diversity.
I've gotten used to her and is planning to build a team to counter her so she's less of a problem now.

But please check your fact, others' argument and make sure your argument is correct before claiming others' argument are wrong. Thanks

1. My fact is on Author comment in the last comment in page 1, plz check it out my friend.
2. As u said, its Tanks/Rangers meta. So y r we here?
please check your fact, others' argument and make sure your argument is correct before claiming others' argument are wrong. Thanks

I checked before I posted my argument, And no argument saying his mage/mystic died from the jump. Instead he said if rhea jump his mage/healer surely dead as in not surviving her attack.
Why are we here? We're arguing whether Rhea is suitable or not to be nerfed. And I simply respond to your argument in as why is Rhea is excluded from most top players' squad. Is it not clear enough for you?
I double checked my argument and I'm seeing from many perspective, whether Rhea brings balance or more imbalance to PvP. Not just accusing someone else's incompetence

Her Jump does not one-shot healers and mystics. Her Aura, on-attack skill and natural high ATK after celestial form do.
The reason she's not in the top players' squad is that because of the current meta favors Tanks and Rangers more and Rhea does not counter tanks and rangers. She counters other squad and hence discouraging diversity.
I've gotten used to her and is planning to build a team to counter her so she's less of a problem now.

But please check your fact, others' argument and make sure your argument is correct before claiming others' argument are wrong. Thanks

1. My fact is on Author comment in the last comment in page 1, plz check it out my friend.
2. As u said, its Tanks/Rangers meta. So y r we here?
please check your fact, others' argument and make sure your argument is correct before claiming others' argument are wrong. Thanks

I checked before I posted my argument,  And no argument saying his mage/mystic died from the jump. Instead he said if rhea jump his mage/healer surely dead as in not surviving her attack.
Why are we here? We're arguing whether Rhea is suitable or not to be nerfed. And I simply respond to your argument in as why is Rhea is excluded from most top players' squad. Is it not clear enough for you?
I double checked my argument and I'm seeing from many perspective, whether Rhea brings balance or more imbalance to PvP. Not just accusing someone else's incompetence

I think he talked about her 1st jump, check it again friend

yeah, i have a very big prob cause i use Tank-Mage team (3 tanks, 1 mage and healer)

If Rhea jump, my mage or healer surely dead.
even if they can survive from 1 atk but Rhea fking 100% refresh rate as shit(and yeah, it a bug.. fck)

I think they mean this.

As a sidenote, he may not mean any mage or healer will surely die from the jump. The current fact in arena however, tells that mages and healer WILL surely die because of being thrown away out of formation and other heroes' aura protection. And with Rhea being smackdab in the middle of their formation, it will be very easy for her to kill squishy target(s) that is usually placed on the back row before most mystic/healer can react against her. This is why some people lamenting about her. Not to mention that if not focus fired she can easily kill backlines leisurely.

What Silmeria is complaining is the fact that the one sure way to counter both forms of Rhea is by using archers, or tank team since guardians can simply shrug off Rhea Dragoon jump with perci set resilience effect. Most of us older players always wish to see something else that is NOT archers or tank team. Because those two made it so that we can only follow them in order to be competitive, which in turn KILLS all other heroes that is not meta.

A smart Rhea Gladiator user will either place her on the back row, or if placed on front row, it'll be the upper tile (since this way, AI won't make her waste her turn to walk toward middle tile if there is 3 frontliners including her). Once she's entering CF, you can no longer one-shot her without monstrous amount of stat, and she'll slowly torment your team to dead without letting you move at all due to the mass stun. For the record, I've never won against any smartly-positioned Rhea Gladiator in arena with my tank team.

Rhea Dragoon KILLS any other kind of team that is incapable of killing her in one strike or those team that can't prevent her from jumping into their formation. This alone is quite powerful in its own right. Her jump will only kill archer or champions, but her normal attacks on round 2 is what makes her lethal. Against mystic-tank team, a smart Rhea Dragoon user can outfit her with resilience rune, thus eliminating one of her flaw of being squishy against berserker skill damage (or other skill for that matter). As I stated in my previous post, I can counter her just fine because I include SDD Leon in my tank team. Otherwise, I'll most likely also wreck my head trying to find solution (since the hero that the AI always choose as target for Rhea jump is not equipped with perci set yet).

Again, all of them fall to a well-built archer squad. But that defeats the wish to have a more diversity and freedom, while still being competitive, in building arena team instead of being a meta slave zombie.

Thank you ashenwind for explaining the details of the problem. You always do a great explanation