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They are not being forced to get 100% event. They are being ousted from completing it. There's a difference. If they have dictated that the event should be for high level people, they should have. 

Again, like last week event even if you have a crap team you can still participate and work towards getting the 100% Event Quest. But Old/P2P players have the capability of gaining MUCH more. Both are rewarded.

This event has high restrictions in getting Kahuna, difficult is different from impossible. Wherein new/some f2p players are restricted from getting Kahuna from any source, whereas stronger players are rewarded by having multiple Kahunas.

Past Event:
New Player = 1 5* Maleos (Quest 100%), RNG tix for 5*, Lower Tier Ladder Rewards.
Old Player/P2P etc. = 1 5* Maleos (Quest 100%), RNG tix for 5* and Maleos Accessories and Higher Ladder Rewards.

This Event:
New Player = 0 Kahuna (Quest 100%, Unrefined Gem drop rate)
Old Player = 1~6 Kahuna (Quest 100%, Can farm Legendary)

There's a difference.

I am Prestige 10. I am most probably not getting 100% achievement. I don't give 2 shits about Kahuna, he will be back in the future somehow.

So you are angry because Kahuna is that powerful of a game-breaking hero?

You have completely missed the point. We are trying to have a healthy conversation, not aggression.

No tell me please. Why are you folks pissed? My brother just started yesterday, he is farming normal and not complaining about getting to 100%. Is he weird?

I will repeat what I posted in the other thread.

I am a paying user. My team can kill the Legendary boxes 30% of the time, but I decided to farm Heroic instead as it is more efficient.

I make decisions based on my team's strength and weaknesses, I don't cry for nerf just because I am not strong enough.

This event has sometime for everyone from a bird's eye view, less for the new comers, more for the older players. Everyone gets something, not nothing.

Newer players or players who are not able to complete Legendary have choices. Farm Heroic, get stronger. Or cry for nerfs, which I see many here are doing.

Well if a endgame pay to play / beta gamer team, can't manage to farm a stage, they should really change it.
Or just no one will be use of it.

If no one will be use of it, the team just failed on developing this stage or his difficulty.


That's the process of develop a game.
Create --> testing --> review success rate --> balance.
If many people can manage to finish it, but no one farm it, it's need a fix.
If you can't provide a costructive feedback to the developer, you can't help them to understand what his weak on their updates, you can't help the community, and you can't help yourself.

That's why it's called.....Legend .....wait for it..........dary. You can't just prance around and just farm it manully.  I can consistently farm it with 2 Seraphs but I need to manually control it, as the way I do it for Legendary Capitol and Legendary 24-3. Not everything will be given to anyone on a silver platter. You have to earn it.
I can only auto it on the Heroic Mode which i do when I just don't have time to manually play it.

I am Prestige 10. I am most probably not getting 100% achievement. I don't give 2 shits about Kahuna, he will be back in the future somehow.

So you are angry because Kahuna is that powerful of a game-breaking hero?

You have completely missed the point. We are trying to have a healthy conversation, not aggression.

No tell me please. Why are you folks pissed? My brother just started yesterday, he is farming normal and not complaining about getting to 100%. Is he weird?

Just tone down on being angry, we're trying to find ways to accommodate ALL. Not those who are angry, not those who are not angry, but everybody. We want everybody to be happy regardless if they know it or not. 

You already said that you're prestige 10 and you're not getting 100% achievement. That itself is already a red flag. Why is the game punishing you a paying customer? You should be respected and appreciated.

Kahuna regardless of his substance is the core of this event, he is the driving force of the story, he is in the pictures of the promotions, he is everywhere alongside Seraphina. It is beside the point what anybody feels about them, be it mine or yours. 

If the game's event REVOLVES around a character do it so that everybody would feel accomplished no matter how little the compensation is. Be it Kahuna's toenail, or his backhair. At least you've participated in this event. But accessing Kahuna is too great a hurdle. That is a problem. He is behind a wall where people can do little to none of getting over. 

I will repeat what I posted in the other thread.

I am a paying user. My team can kill the Legendary boxes 30% of the time, but I decided to farm Heroic instead as it is more efficient.

I make decisions based on my team's strength and weaknesses, I don't cry for nerf just because I am not strong enough.

This event has sometime for everyone from a bird's eye view, less for the new comers, more for the older players. Everyone gets something, not nothing.

Newer players or players who are not able to complete Legendary have choices. Farm Heroic, get stronger. Or cry for nerfs, which I see many here are doing.

Well if a endgame pay to play / beta gamer team, can't manage to farm a stage, they should really change it.
Or just no one will be use of it.

If no one will be use of it, the team just failed on developing this stage or his difficulty.


That's the process of develop a game.
Create --> testing --> review success rate --> balance.
If many people can manage to finish it, but no one farm it, it's need a fix.
If you can't provide a costructive feedback to the developer, you can't help them to understand what his weak on their updates, you can't help the community, and you can't help yourself.

That's why it's called.....Legend .....wait for it..........dary. You can't just prance around and just farm it manully.  I can consistently farm it with 2 Seraphs but I need to manually control it, as the way I do it for Legendary Capitol and Legendary 24-3. Not everything will be given to anyone on a silver platter. You have to earn it.
I can only auto it on the Heroic Mode which i do when I just don't have time to manually play it.

Even with a full team of 5 stars limit break heroes you will not get 100% the chest rewards of the leggendary difficulties.
This is called crap life on ow chest.

If one difficulty is not used or farmed by endgame team players devs just crap out.
There is no way to defent this.

You have completely missed the point. We are trying to have a healthy conversation, not aggression.

No tell me please. Why are you folks pissed? My brother just started yesterday, he is farming normal and not complaining about getting to 100%. Is he weird?

Just tone down on being angry, we're trying to find ways to accommodate ALL. Not those who are angry, not those who are not angry, but everybody. We want everybody to be happy regardless if they know it or not. 

You already said that you're prestige 10 and you're not getting 100% achievement. That itself is already a red flag. Why is the game punishing you a paying customer? You should be respected and appreciated.

Kahuna regardless of his substance is the core of this event, he is the driving force of the story, he is in the pictures of the promotions, he is everywhere alongside Seraphina. It is beside the point what anybody feels about them, be it mine or yours. 

If the game's event REVOLVES around a character do it so that everybody would feel accomplished no matter how little the compensation is. Be it Kahuna's toenail, or his backhair. At least you've participated in this event. But accessing Kahuna is too great a hurdle. That is a problem. He is behind a wall where people can do little to none of getting over. 

I don't feel punished. I understand that it does not mean paying customers are the strongest and must be able to clear all events and achievements. I pay because I needed more heroes back then and didn't have time to grind for them.
I don't see a need for me to hit 100% achievement for ALL events. I am just so chill. But I do agree the drop rate for Unrefined Gems is low. That is my only concern.

Kahuna... Let's just say I am not really into completing the Pokedex at the moment. Just got to wait until the event heroes return again.

Well if a endgame pay to play / beta gamer team, can't manage to farm a stage, they should really change it.
Or just no one will be use of it.

If no one will be use of it, the team just failed on developing this stage or his difficulty.


That's the process of develop a game.
Create --> testing --> review success rate --> balance.
If many people can manage to finish it, but no one farm it, it's need a fix.
If you can't provide a costructive feedback to the developer, you can't help them to understand what his weak on their updates, you can't help the community, and you can't help yourself.

That's why it's called.....Legend .....wait for it..........dary. You can't just prance around and just farm it manully.  I can consistently farm it with 2 Seraphs but I need to manually control it, as the way I do it for Legendary Capitol and Legendary 24-3. Not everything will be given to anyone on a silver platter. You have to earn it.
I can only auto it on the Heroic Mode which i do when I just don't have time to manually play it.

Even with a full team of 5 stars limit break heroes you will not get 100% the chest rewards of the leggendary difficulties.
This is called crap life on ow chest.

If one difficulty is not used or farmed by endgame team players devs just crap out.
There is no way to defent this.

Because you need the right strategies and not auto all the way? Yes, certain heroes are more helpful in this event than others, which is great. And potions are really helpful.

So you think that a team of 5-star limit break heroes should just own everything with minimal effort? 
What an elitist. And just FYI, players with squads of non-limit break heroes have already cleared legendary on day 1.

Well if a endgame pay to play / beta gamer team, can't manage to farm a stage, they should really change it.
Or just no one will be use of it.

If no one will be use of it, the team just failed on developing this stage or his difficulty.


That's the process of develop a game.
Create --> testing --> review success rate --> balance.
If many people can manage to finish it, but no one farm it, it's need a fix.
If you can't provide a costructive feedback to the developer, you can't help them to understand what his weak on their updates, you can't help the community, and you can't help yourself.

That's why it's called.....Legend .....wait for it..........dary. You can't just prance around and just farm it manully.  I can consistently farm it with 2 Seraphs but I need to manually control it, as the way I do it for Legendary Capitol and Legendary 24-3. Not everything will be given to anyone on a silver platter. You have to earn it.
I can only auto it on the Heroic Mode which i do when I just don't have time to manually play it.

Even with a full team of 5 stars limit break heroes you will not get 100% the chest rewards of the leggendary difficulties.
This is called crap life on ow chest.

If one difficulty is not used or farmed by endgame team players devs just crap out.
There is no way to defent this.

I did it with just one limit break hero and 1 Seraph and another Seraph from a friend. It's not impossible, it's hard but not impossible

No tell me please. Why are you folks pissed? My brother just started yesterday, he is farming normal and not complaining about getting to 100%. Is he weird?

Just tone down on being angry, we're trying to find ways to accommodate ALL. Not those who are angry, not those who are not angry, but everybody. We want everybody to be happy regardless if they know it or not. 

You already said that you're prestige 10 and you're not getting 100% achievement. That itself is already a red flag. Why is the game punishing you a paying customer? You should be respected and appreciated.

Kahuna regardless of his substance is the core of this event, he is the driving force of the story, he is in the pictures of the promotions, he is everywhere alongside Seraphina. It is beside the point what anybody feels about them, be it mine or yours. 

If the game's event REVOLVES around a character do it so that everybody would feel accomplished no matter how little the compensation is. Be it Kahuna's toenail, or his backhair. At least you've participated in this event. But accessing Kahuna is too great a hurdle. That is a problem. He is behind a wall where people can do little to none of getting over. 

I don't feel punished. I understand that it does not mean paying customers are the strongest and must be able to clear all events and achievements. I pay because I needed more heroes back then and didn't have time to grind for them.
I don't see a need for me to hit 100% achievement for ALL events. I am just so chill. But I do agree the drop rate for Unrefined Gems is low. That is my only concern.

Kahuna... Let's just say I am not really into completing the Pokedex at the moment. Just got to wait until the event heroes return again.

Again we're returning to what you feel. 

The current difficulty, regardless of what anyone feels, is simply tasking for new players. That's a fact. A 21 Trial Clear quest where old players might have an issue is a big deal for a new player. That already means that it's a big deal for them when they reach that point. 

The requirement for the 100% Quest is too grave. They should restrict new players from getting other things, but not the completion of quests. Don't let them have more Kahunas, don't let them have the gems etc. But do not restrict them from getting a Kahuna in the first place.

This is not what everybody is supposed to feel. It is what everybody should have access to. I'm not posting here to make things easier for myself. I'll be getting my Kahuna, I don't mind. But new players should not be neglected. New players = more income = longevity. That's all.

That's why it's called.....Legend .....wait for it..........dary. You can't just prance around and just farm it manully.  I can consistently farm it with 2 Seraphs but I need to manually control it, as the way I do it for Legendary Capitol and Legendary 24-3. Not everything will be given to anyone on a silver platter. You have to earn it.
I can only auto it on the Heroic Mode which i do when I just don't have time to manually play it.

Even with a full team of 5 stars limit break heroes you will not get 100% the chest rewards of the leggendary difficulties.
This is called crap life on ow chest.

If one difficulty is not used or farmed by endgame team players devs just crap out.
There is no way to defent this.

I did it with just one limit break hero and 1 Seraph and another Seraph from a friend. It's not impossible, it's hard but not impossible

I can show you that is Impossible to farm leggendary stage and have a 100% drop from the chest.

I have a full limit break team of valiants + seraphina limit break.
And i NEVER have the 100% possibility of droprate from the chest, it's just impossible.

Just tone down on being angry, we're trying to find ways to accommodate ALL. Not those who are angry, not those who are not angry, but everybody. We want everybody to be happy regardless if they know it or not. 

You already said that you're prestige 10 and you're not getting 100% achievement. That itself is already a red flag. Why is the game punishing you a paying customer? You should be respected and appreciated.

Kahuna regardless of his substance is the core of this event, he is the driving force of the story, he is in the pictures of the promotions, he is everywhere alongside Seraphina. It is beside the point what anybody feels about them, be it mine or yours. 

If the game's event REVOLVES around a character do it so that everybody would feel accomplished no matter how little the compensation is. Be it Kahuna's toenail, or his backhair. At least you've participated in this event. But accessing Kahuna is too great a hurdle. That is a problem. He is behind a wall where people can do little to none of getting over. 

I don't feel punished. I understand that it does not mean paying customers are the strongest and must be able to clear all events and achievements. I pay because I needed more heroes back then and didn't have time to grind for them.
I don't see a need for me to hit 100% achievement for ALL events. I am just so chill. But I do agree the drop rate for Unrefined Gems is low. That is my only concern.

Kahuna... Let's just say I am not really into completing the Pokedex at the moment. Just got to wait until the event heroes return again.

Again we're returning to what you feel. 

The current difficulty, regardless of what anyone feels, is simply tasking for new players. That's a fact. A 21 Trial Clear quest where old players might have an issue is a big deal for a new player. That already means that it's a big deal for them when they reach that point. 

The requirement for the 100% Quest is too grave. They should restrict new players from getting other things, but not the completion of quests. Don't let them have more Kahunas, don't let them have the gems etc. But do not restrict them from getting a Kahuna in the first place.

This is not what everybody is supposed to feel. It is what everybody should have access to. I'm not posting here to make things easier for myself. I'll be getting my Kahuna, I don't mind. But new players should not be neglected. New players = more income = longevity. That's all.

Have you seen how much gems and bonus stuff new players get these days from daily and quest guides? Plus they can still do the normal mode of the event. You mean those are not enough to help new players?