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Dont know what you are trying to prove, or who you are trying to make feel better. I know for one I feel like shit seeing seraphina with all purple eq and +15 murdering the event, which i probably wont hit for another 2 months or so...

Someone complained about even having a decked-out Seraphina with limit-break etc is impossible to get 100%. Just showing him that.

I can't achieve that as well. I don't feel like shit. My team is pretty rad for what I am able to spend money and time on. No point comparing with those with deep pockets.

Why are you comparing yourself with the high spenders? You expect to be at their level without hard, manual grinding ?

Case in hand, i've spent a fair amount, I wont say a lot, but I can barely scratch legendary even playing pretty much everyday since launch (almost level 60). I can understand not being able to 3* it, but to be barely even able to scratch the surface of it is not what I signed up for.

Dont know what you are trying to prove, or who you are trying to make feel better. I know for one I feel like shit seeing seraphina with all purple eq and +15 murdering the event, which i probably wont hit for another 2 months or so...

Someone complained about even having a decked-out Seraphina with limit-break etc is impossible to get 100%. Just showing him that.

I can't achieve that as well. I don't feel like shit. My team is pretty rad for what I am able to spend money and time on. No point comparing with those with deep pockets.

Why are you comparing yourself with the high spenders? You expect to be at their level without hard, manual grinding ?

Case in hand, i've spent a fair amount, I wont say a lot, but I can barely scratch legendary even playing pretty much everyday since launch (almost level 60). I can understand not being able to 3* it, but to be barely even able to scratch the surface of it is not what I signed up for.

I am level 60 as well. Prestige 10. No issues at all with Legendary, just the treasure chests. Not whining though.

Seriously? Are we not giving the newbies too much to focus and divert what little resources they have? Are we so inhumanely unaccomodating to the point that we have people who says "I don't see a reason why new players are whining" because of one simplest fact is they can't and are unable to put themselves in the new players' perspective.

This, I present to you, is the finest and ugliest side of human.

Have you seen how much the daily gifts were buffed for new players? And the new quest guides with tons of bonus items?

Where is this hatred and contempt for New Players coming from? They are HARMLESS. 
They do not bring the plague whenever they fart. They're in no way competing for your attention nor for your place in this world.

They deserve people's guidance and reassurance. They just want to have fun, just as much as you. 

Its not impossible to clear all the trials, just very difficult.

For all those who seem so vehemently opposed to change, this thread is actually having a reasonable discussion. If there are ways to accomodate NEW players in a NEW game as mentioned by someone, why not listen instead of trying to be a white knight?

Do note that the game has been officially released for only 3 weeks, disregarding the beta. No one can ever compare beta players to official launch players, especially as there are always only a select few who can play during the beta phrase.

Most of the time, new games provide events that cater to everyone (free and whale alike) and slowly build up the difficulty as the game matures. If you release an event in a game that has barely hit a month and expect that those who are either lucky enough to have a decent team, whales, or beta players to be able to complete it, then do you see the logic in that?

Seriously? Are we not giving the newbies too much to focus and divert what little resources they have? Are we so inhumanely unaccomodating to the point that we have people who says "I don't see a reason why new players are whining" because of one simplest fact is they can't and are unable to put themselves in the new players' perspective.

This, I present to you, is the finest and ugliest side of human.

Have you seen how much the daily gifts were buffed for new players? And the new quest guides with tons of bonus items?

Where is hatred and contempt for New Players coming from? They are HARMLESS. They do not bring the plague whenever they fart. They're in no way competing for your attention nor for your place in this world. They deserve people's guidance and reassurance. They just want to have fun, just as much as you. 

Are they lacking either? Point is, 100% achievement is not for the new players. But they can still farm some items out of it for growth. 

End of story. What's the big whining for?

Someone complained about even having a decked-out Seraphina with limit-break etc is impossible to get 100%. Just showing him that.

I can't achieve that as well. I don't feel like shit. My team is pretty rad for what I am able to spend money and time on. No point comparing with those with deep pockets.

Why are you comparing yourself with the high spenders? You expect to be at their level without hard, manual grinding ?

Case in hand, i've spent a fair amount, I wont say a lot, but I can barely scratch legendary even playing pretty much everyday since launch (almost level 60). I can understand not being able to 3* it, but to be barely even able to scratch the surface of it is not what I signed up for.

I am level 60 as well. Prestige 10. No issues at all with Legendary, just the treasure chests. Not whining though.

His opinion it's from a new player of the game.
Beta player opinion don't count at all...

In the end it was better make 2 servers..

Case in hand, i've spent a fair amount, I wont say a lot, but I can barely scratch legendary even playing pretty much everyday since launch (almost level 60). I can understand not being able to 3* it, but to be barely even able to scratch the surface of it is not what I signed up for.

I am level 60 as well. Prestige 10. No issues at all with Legendary, just the treasure chests. Not whining though.

His opinion it's from a new player of the game.
Beta player opinion don't count at all...

In the end it was better make 2 servers..

No matter the number of servers, the newer players will always be complaining about unable to catch up with those who spend or played earlier. Prove me wrong if you can.

There is a sad truth in every community. This existence of truth is that there will always be a bunch of "privileged" beings who already has this hard stumped mindset that new players and beginners are a bunch of whiners.

I have players who tell me verbally that they should always be at the top of the arena to get all the blood tokens and gem because they are the pioneers, because they spend time, effort and money (or not) to be there before the launch.  

Seriously? Are we not giving the newbies too much to focus and divert what little resources they have? Are we so inhumanely unaccomodating to the point that we have people who says "I don't see a reason why new players are whining" because of one simplest fact is they can't and are unable to put themselves in the new players' perspective.

This, I present to you, is the finest and ugliest side of human.

Now we have this. But you did mentioned a good point " Are we not giving the newbies too much to focus and divert what little resources they have? ".  A newbie should focus on making his squad powerful enough to participate in the event. If a newbie with a limited amount of resources tries to divide his effort on becoming stronger, will still be left wanting on the next event. 
I think people don't want to heed the advice that the event is not for everyone. The event is somewhat an extra for those who have already maxed out on what they can get on doing the Story missions. You'll notice that even if you finished 100% of the event, you wont gain much. Looking at Kahuna, he's quite a mediocre unit. You'll barely be able to progress with that unit. You'll be better off trying to promote and train your units and acquire more gems via doing the trials in Story than doing the event.

Someone complained about even having a decked-out Seraphina with limit-break etc is impossible to get 100%. Just showing him that.

I can't achieve that as well. I don't feel like shit. My team is pretty rad for what I am able to spend money and time on. No point comparing with those with deep pockets.

Why are you comparing yourself with the high spenders? You expect to be at their level without hard, manual grinding ?

Case in hand, i've spent a fair amount, I wont say a lot, but I can barely scratch legendary even playing pretty much everyday since launch (almost level 60). I can understand not being able to 3* it, but to be barely even able to scratch the surface of it is not what I signed up for.

I am level 60 as well. Prestige 10. No issues at all with Legendary, just the treasure chests. Not whining though.

Well you have been told you are not the voice of the majority so far, so seeing how you have the spare cash to get to prestige 10 and not care much about the fact that you still cannot reliably complete the whole legendary event, does make you somewhat of an anomaly. Kudos to you, maybe what you spent is just your chump change you had in your jeans pocket somewhere in the house. Who knows.

Have you seen how much the daily gifts were buffed for new players? And the new quest guides with tons of bonus items?

Where is hatred and contempt for New Players coming from? They are HARMLESS. They do not bring the plague whenever they fart. They're in no way competing for your attention nor for your place in this world. They deserve people's guidance and reassurance. They just want to have fun, just as much as you. 

Are they lacking either? Point is, 100% achievement is not for the new players. But they can still farm some items out of it for growth. 

End of story. What's the big whining for?

We're going around in circles. New Players regardless if they're being bombarded by gifts etc. has no visible access to this EVENT. That's all there is to it. 

They cannot finish the Event Quests due to the 21 Trial Quest and they cannot farm at a reasonable rate due to the drop rate to get Kahuna.

The big 'whining' for is that there are others that care about new players. We want New Players to have fun. This is not for our benefit. It is for theirs.