halekuuu
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:57 pm

Yes of course, i'll just take your word for it yes? Yes.
Love how you group everyone who doesnt agree with you under the whole "entitled" label. Very refreshing.
Haiz...look..what are u looking for actually with all those ranting? What are u expecting out of the event? Ask yourself..can u do it??? Can u achieve it??

Theres a feedback and suggestion collumn here in the forum itself. Suggest it there or improve the suggestion thats already been there.

Why arguing with fellow players. Just coz cant complete/ compete with the difficulty of the legendary level?? Or are u too salty looking at people achieving it and u cant??

Difficulties / challages are meant to be beaten. The dev wont launch the even if its not beatable. At certain point at the game u will meet with bumps and limits.

Yess bazaar is one way to get the new hero, but its all up to u think if u are up fot the challage. Dont give excuses, say such, oh..hes a p2p so he can do it, oh..hes a cbt so he can do it. Dont be bs.

The 100% achievement are well made and known for the veterens and hardcore players. For the other types of players that u mention, u got the bazaar, as simple as that.

Dont blame and ranting others for your incompetance. U looking for constructive discussion yet u dont put a baseline of what a f2p can or could do. U cant go to the 2nd floor without going to the 1st floor. This is what, 23 days. 23 DAYS  from launch date. U see even some cbt f2p has difficulties and some has pass the 21/21 trials. They play for 3 month++, did u know that.

Is the last lulu and aria event, i tell u here
.not all players achieve the 100% coz of 1 hickup, complete all * trials. Yet the feedback are not like this.

For all u new players out there. Measure your own capability and not look at others achievement as a discracement for your own incapability. Grow your team, how u do it its up to u yourself how to do it.
Well Said Klifter.
@halekuuu  did you reflect on that?
Well done, you made an account just to say this? Alright then.
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:01 pm


Haiz...look..what are u looking for actually with all those ranting? What are u expecting out of the event? Ask yourself..can u do it??? Can u achieve it??

Theres a feedback and suggestion collumn here in the forum itself. Suggest it there or improve the suggestion thats already been there.

Why arguing with fellow players. Just coz cant complete/ compete with the difficulty of the legendary level?? Or are u too salty looking at people achieving it and u cant??

Difficulties / challages are meant to be beaten. The dev wont launch the even if its not beatable. At certain point at the game u will meet with bumps and limits.

Yess bazaar is one way to get the new hero, but its all up to u think if u are up fot the challage. Dont give excuses, say such, oh..hes a p2p so he can do it, oh..hes a cbt so he can do it. Dont be bs.

The 100% achievement are well made and known for the veterens and hardcore players. For the other types of players that u mention, u got the bazaar, as simple as that.

Dont blame and ranting others for your incompetance. U looking for constructive discussion yet u dont put a baseline of what a f2p can or could do. U cant go to the 2nd floor without going to the 1st floor. This is what, 23 days. 23 DAYS  from launch date. U see even some cbt f2p has difficulties and some has pass the 21/21 trials. They play for 3 month++, did u know that.

Is the last lulu and aria event, i tell u here
.not all players achieve the 100% coz of 1 hickup, complete all * trials. Yet the feedback are not like this.

For all u new players out there. Measure your own capability and not look at others achievement as a discracement for your own incapability. Grow your team, how u do it its up to u yourself how to do it.
Another one who don't know how to read or what I am implying. Keep repeating myself.

If you want to have an event that is engaging the entirety of your player base, then it makes sense to have the difficulty relatively achievable by the bulk of the player base.

Sure you can achieve, sure someone can achieve. Hell yeah maybe 10% of the player base can achieve. But what is your goal in providing this event if you are more than likely discouraging a large part of your base? First event, okay 3 weeks, getting poisoned to death, sure first event, maybe I suck too much. By end of event I grind and get to 100% and feel maybe I am getting somewhere. Didn't get all the stuff on bazaar but hey wings and whatnot for the beta and the whales why not.

2nd event, legendary chests are a joke. Have to rely on RNG to get the correct chests. Sure I can force close and know which chest it is, I can't dps enough get to the last row chest before goblin comes so yeah it's purely chance. So yeah probably my squad still sucks or it's my fault I can't get sera with 4x10 rolls.. okay.

So how long you expect this to persist? Hmm? You can convince me 30% can complete but you cannot convince me 70% all didn't try hard enough. And by the time we 70% level and get eq, the ones so far in front will be craving another challenge which devs will be obliged to cater to.

And salty? Nah. I didn't spend enough to convince myself to be salty, but I'm quite sure some people out there disagree. This is my honest opinion.
Lets say you are a new born child. 3months old.
Your elder brother (6yo) got birthday celebration. Guess what is he having? Mcdonalds!

But you are too young to eat that, not suitable age. What do you do?
I know! You QQ. Because not everyday is your brother's birthday. You can not reach in time to enjoy it.
Oh god this is so terribly inaccurate, I also know how to use biased analogies! my turn!
School sports day100m dash, to win you need to do it in.... 3 seconds! and its open to everyone because, why the hell not?
Beta testers, start at the 80m mark!
Big spenders, get rocket boots!
You, get 30% completion chest okay? Okay LLST.
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:01 pm

Well done, you made an account just to say this? Alright then.
Yeah. I always wanted to create a account in this forum. So many good tips and posts that helped me with my game.
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:03 pm

Well done, you made an account just to say this? Alright then.
Yeah. I always wanted to create a account in this forum. So many good tips and posts that helped me with my game.
Oh no the ultimate troll is here  :o
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:04 pm

Well done, you made an account just to say this? Alright then.
Yeah. I always wanted to create a account in this forum. So many good tips and posts that helped me with my game.
You didnt think to create this earlier so you could thank those people for the tips? Blasphemy! JK.
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:08 pm

Everyone have to understand risk and reward. If in the future, timed event become insanely easier to clear, which is a walk in the park for the future you, we old player can't complain. Cause we asked for it and we have to understand that such event won't be givin out good rewards as there is little to no risk therefore little to no reward.

Such is the problem with diplomatic solution, we vote for things that benefit the current us, knowing that it will only take 1 month to reach the future you, whatever benefit we asked for become obsolete. We make noise again.

All these discussion reminds me of how World of Warcraft turned into World of Carebear.
Like I say, if the event difficulty remains the same 1 year from now, and everybody is clearing with ease, its not anybody's fault but the developer.
Its not my job or your job to keep the game interesting for me, its for the developer. If everyone keeps quiet, they imagine that everything they are doing is perfect, which is not the case.
Your blame game is very strong sir. There is always new player, now you, as a new player fight for their privileges with your justification. And it is the dev's fault when you can and I can clear with ease? Didn't you fight for the newbie for easy event? I'm having a really easy time with this event and I don't blame the dev, because they have to cater for the L2P people.

The F2P I know of is doing so much better than all the L2P here. The P2P haven't event start complaining the ease of clearing event. It is never the dev's fault.

So which group do you belong to?

After all, the world is filled with hard truth, making game is a business, business needs money, money don't come from L2P and F2P.

If u ever need help, post ur team setup and the stage you wanna clear, everyone here will try their best to guide you through this difficult game. Writing wall of text without mentioning your team setup and baseline won't get you any help.

We didn't cry nerf when we reach a point where we got stuck in an event, we ask for pointers to clear, what unit to bring in what formation to use. That's how the beta player get past all sort of nightmares.
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:10 pm

Oh god this is so terribly inaccurate, I also know how to use biased analogies! my turn!
School sports day100m dash, to win you need to do it in.... 3 seconds! and its open to everyone because, why the hell not?
Beta testers, start at the 80m mark!
Big spenders, get rocket boots!
You, get 30% completion chest okay? Okay LLST.
So much false there.

School sports day 100m Dash. To win, be the fastest to reach the end. It is not a "Time trial 100m Dash"
Normally School Sports days lasted only for a day. If you miss or didn't win any medal at it, the only chance to reattempting it is next year.

"Beta testers" did not start at 80m Mark. Everyone starts at 0m mark. But the difference is, they got better stamina, better strenght, etc etc, because they have started jogging or running for some time.

Now big spenders. They also starts at 0m Mark. But they got better running shoe. More aero-dyamic sprinting outfit.
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:11 pm

I agree that new players should gear up and level before attempting harder, more end game content, but this is a timed event we are talking about. 
If we are talking about a separate raid/level which is perpetually there, and they can come back to attempt in a month or two, than I am by all means agreeable to that level of difficulty. But expecting the majority of your player base (which will be f2p and only starting from official launch) to reach that kind of level within 10 days is .... Which is why I say the developers are sending the wrong message, because all it tells me now is "spend money or byebye event". Catering to the needs of the whales and betas is not wrong, but if that is all you are thinking of at this point when your game is only 3 weeks in, then it might go south pretty quickly.
Who is expecting all players to reach 100% in 10 days? You "entitled" ones are the group who keep demanding the event to be nerfed so that EVERYONE  can hit 100%. 
Nobody is expecting everyone to reach 100%, this is surely your legendary tophat at work again, with your imaginary bunnies.
I only asked for reasonably obtainable. Look at the huge skill gap between heroic and legendary, and tell me also what is the % increase of hp of the chests itself. 
If I look hard enough, I probably will be able to find that magical group of about 10 people who have spent maybe less than SGD 60, played since official launch, and maybe some really atrocious luck with gacha who have managed to clear legendary (and even so maybe not all trials, but who knows). But is this handful of people supposed to be your expected normal event crowd?
Your magical group is probably higher than you think due to how OP Seraphina + friend is. A handful from forums, a few from FB group, some of my guildies, I can confidently say that's more than 10. 

The state of despair you're experiencing is not untrue, it's just the fact is people are easily tunnel vision on how many people are EXACTLY like them when they're new in the game. It's a BIG assumption. 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:13 pm

Well done, you made an account just to say this? Alright then.
Yeah. I always wanted to create a account in this forum. So many good tips and posts that helped me with my game.
You didnt think to create this earlier so you could thank those people for the tips? Blasphemy! JK.
Hey! Better late then never!
But of course, it is still best to be on time, but i can not be early to thank people for it when there isnt any tips or guides yet.
 
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Re: F2P is officially dead.

Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:14 pm

Oh god this is so terribly inaccurate, I also know how to use biased analogies! my turn!
School sports day100m dash, to win you need to do it in.... 3 seconds! and its open to everyone because, why the hell not?
Beta testers, start at the 80m mark!
Big spenders, get rocket boots!
You, get 30% completion chest okay? Okay LLST.
So much false there.

School sports day 100m Dash. To win, be the fastest to reach the end. It is not a "Time trial 100m Dash"
Normally School Sports days lasted only for a day. If you miss or didn't win any medal at it, the only chance to reattempting it is next year.

"Beta testers" did not start at 80m Mark. Everyone starts at 0m mark. But the difference is, they got better stamina, better strenght, etc etc, because they have started jogging or running for some time.

Now big spenders. They also starts at 0m Mark. But they got better running shoe. More aero-dyamic sprinting outfit.
10/10 for being on point!