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Aldeen
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Re: IT IS TIME 2.

Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:12 pm

Just lost 2 heroes on the first turn to a 12 trigger chain. Lol, so balanced :D

Devs, can we get a response please?
 
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Re: IT IS TIME 2.

Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:55 pm

There are possible counters but hmmm ... true that with good RNG, it can really destroy teams easily with 10+ chains.

Maybe limit the chains up to x4-5 on Arena while PVE is untouched.
 
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Re: IT IS TIME 2.

Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:41 pm

There are possible counters but hmmm ... true that with good RNG, it can really destroy teams easily with 10+ chains.

Maybe limit the chains up to x4-5 on Arena while PVE is untouched.
When your crit is 80% you actually need bad RNG to NOT get a 10+ chain on a 3 ranger formation :)

Separate restrictions for PVP would be the easiest solution. Either a hard cap on the number of chains, or reducing the chance for each subsequent trigger.
 
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Re: IT IS TIME 2.

Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:39 am

AIGHT, TIME TO BUMP THIS DANK ASS FORGOTTEN THREAD THAT THE DANK LORD MADE.

The current state of the meta is dumb. Turn 1 decides a match, cause if you or your opponent crit, that's most likely game. That's if you and your opponent uses the archer form.

If youre using some other squad, I dunno probably still gonna be fooked in the ass tho. This archer form is too potent, it can take out any team easily.

95% trigger rate is just dumb, if you compare to other heroes, the only class that has the same kind of AAA effect are ninjas with their pretty dank refresh aura, BUT their refresh aint no goddamn 95% tho.

So, whnever Im seein people sayin this game is unique with the aura system that challenges and rewards our creativity yatta yatta yatta,

I gotta agree... 



SYKE. 
 
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Re: IT IS TIME 2.

Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:37 pm

Putting some limit on the number of trigger seems a better way to prevent GR&GS trigger attack from being too powerful without having to adjust trigger chance percentage. The trigger is still useful and not abusive in pve as monsters have gigantic health. 95% trigger chance is not wrong per se but in arena where heroes have much lower health than monsters in pve, that high trigger chance becomes too powerful.
 
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Re: IT IS TIME 2.

Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:44 pm

AIGHT, TIME TO BUMP THIS DANK ASS FORGOTTEN THREAD THAT THE DANK LORD MADE.

The current state of the meta is dumb. Turn 1 decides a match, cause if you or your opponent crit, that's most likely game. That's if you and your opponent uses the archer form.

If youre using some other squad, I dunno probably still gonna be fooked in the ass tho. This archer form is too potent, it can take out any team easily.

95% trigger rate is just dumb, if you compare to other heroes, the only class that has the same kind of AAA effect are ninjas with their pretty dank refresh aura, BUT their refresh aint no goddamn 95% tho.

So, whnever Im seein people sayin this game is unique with the aura system that challenges and rewards our creativity yatta yatta yatta,

I gotta agree...



SYKE.
I agree with you.

Ppl always told me to use tanker team to counter them. But really, spamming several characters of the same class on your Team Composition is just lame (Even though I got a lot of archers on my hero tavern). I really like seeing people with creative aura setups that involve several classes, and i usually enjoy battling/losing against those comp. But with the amount of archers in arena, it's like 7K all over again, with the stale copy + paste meta. Kinda boring . . . I still managed to reach master tier tho on both VF and 7K, in VF case we can toy with the AI. Just not really enjoying the process.
 
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Re: IT IS TIME 2.

Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:20 pm

so there are a few things the dev can do.

-Nerf the amount of trigger chain that can happen in 1 turn on PvP.
-Nerf the trigger chance of GS/GR.
-Lower GS/GR crit rate.
-Raise the attack penalty for attacking the 2nd or 3rd or 4th row, cause even let's say a tanker takes a tile and the 3rd row heroes becomes 4th row, IT'S STILL NOT SAFE ENOUGH.  

-idk, probably some other more that I cant think of.
 
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Re: IT IS TIME 2.

Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:55 pm

Ranger become so popular..
Other classes like Warlock and Witch Doctor are sink..
WD is little bit lucky because some people in top 100 still using them, but Warlock?
 
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Re: IT IS TIME 2.

Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:51 pm

If you guys noticed, crit is now capped at 75%, i have capacity to add + 300 crit over the 75% and it does not shows higher amount so i am sure it is now capped at 75% which means there is a nerf done already down from highest of 80%
 
 
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Re: IT IS TIME 2.

Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:33 pm

If you guys noticed, crit is now capped at 75%, i have capacity to add + 300 crit over the 75% and it does not shows higher amount so i am sure it is now capped at 75% which means there is a nerf done already down from highest of 80%
 
75% sure as hell higher than 40% of GS kane trigger chance, or kai ninja's 45% refresh chance.