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Hi all, has anyone tried this hero? Is she good in pvp? Elementalist or Warlock, which one is more useful?

No luck so far from 5 x 10 summons but I could exchange with valianite. 

I fought a team with a Talissa elementalist before. I will give her 9.5/10 for PVP deals to the following reasons: 
- She lashes out huge damage easily with her skill that 1)burns 3x3 ground for 2 turns with reasonable damage, 2)has 4 turns cooldown, 3)can be freely positioned (I assumed), 4)deals the burn damage immediately (if i recalled correctly)  
- Her pet is also annoying since 1)it attacks straight after it is summoned, 2)it deals significant damage to backliner because it's summoned right in the middle of the enemy, 3)it can stun, 4)it has its own turn.
To defeat a team with her, u need to be able to clear out most of her allies asap by ranger team. I was lucky to win because the enemy don't have tanker which results in her attacking early and my berserker striking down their frontliners quickly.

Very curious as well. I have 4* with Athena Faith but as I checked it only affects the summon's stats. Pet skills rely on other stats (HP/Attack). I've checked the PvP leader boards and most of them have Elementalist Talissa though they don't use her in their lineups. I'm raring to promote mine to 5* but I'm still undecided. I hope this thread would give us a lot of input

Same here lol. Waiting for other people's opinion regarding this hero. Haven't promoted mine yet.

I went for Warlock straight due to the higher skill DPS and consistency in pet skill.
I usually pair her with a ninja, so that if she dies due to ranger combo, ninja can swap in and disrupt aura (another reason why i don't use elementalist).

Elementalist:
- Slightly higher damage, crit and magic and defense
- Pet 50% stun although inconsistent is still extremely useful
- Don't really like the fact that the skill is in a cross area which limits number of units stunned when ninja swap displaces units or when cybella knocks them back
- Area stun is high utility in pvp

Warlock:
- Slightly higher HP
- Units cannot avoid poison, but status can be dispelled (units that can dispel are generally not used); better used with heroes with swap
- Pet skill attack is slightly higher (according to base stats calculation) and applies poison debuff, slightly more flexible, lesser utility

Makes me wanna summon. The temptation is darn strong =)

Yup, by using an Elementalist Talissa and Warlock Talissa this week, probably a better comparison can be seen for anyone who summons Talissa from now on.
Will be using War-Golem (warlock pet) and Ele-Golem (elementalist pet) in short for better explanation.

Using same Equipment and Athena Faith for both 
1. Damage comparison;
Elementalist burn averages 4.6-5k damage per turn when allies are positioned on 3 sides boosting (30% extra mag)
Warlock poison does 3k damage per turn to all units + additional 1.5-2k on attacked unit.

2. Positioning/Pet/Pet positioning
Warlock is more flexible, can position her anywhere can summon golem anywhere (which is extremely important), Elementalist has to summon golem in the middle of all units for maximum burn effect (higher damage)
Why is the position important? Mainly as you will summon war-golem behind archers while ele-golems have to be summoned in front of archers and behind warriors in arena.
Is the extra HP from ele-golem useful? To some extent, yes. Archers that crit can one-shot war-golems but not ele-golem in most cases. But warriors will attack ele-golem due to positioning while archers/mages will attack war-golem which still mean that ele-golems are easier to be killed in one turn.

3. Team composition;
Elementalist has to run a DPS from the back team (archer or ronan combo) as the burn damage is really quite impressive and you wouldn't want your guardians/warriors to walk into them. However in arena, if there are ninjas, beware of swap.
Warlock is more flexible, can run any type of combo, just take out a dps, swap her in.

4. Pet Passive/Ultimate
I found that in arena, it is pretty difficult to use ele-golem passive to consistent proc stun to a unit to miss the whole turn directly. Ultimate is also hard to use that it stuns a single unit or 2 most of the time. Even if you use it on the enemy who are on the point tiles, why would you stun them instead of pushing them back.
War-golems can split damage across 3 different units (invis included) and poison. Flexible, decent damage & a little bit more consistent.

TLDR;
Elementalist, burn damage is crazy, pet skill average. Good when doing full dps with no guardians/warriors/ninjas. Useful in Arena.
Warlock above average poison damage, high flexibility. Can fit in any team. Useful in story & arena.

Just want to ask how the pets faith are choosen?

They follow Talissa's faith!

I am also enjoying Talissa! Pretty impressive for the new summoner type! I agree that Ele burn is crazy and Warlock is more of flexible damage dealer as position matters. This is the renaissance for mages! Ronan and Talissa are turning points of the mage classes.

I am also enjoying Talissa! Pretty impressive for the new summoner type! I agree that Ele burn is crazy and Warlock is more of flexible damage dealer as position matters. This is the renaissance for mages! Ronan and Talissa are turning points of the mage classes.

*zedd cries in the corner*