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Let's hope Rangers don't get literally get nerfed to the ground. No, I'm not one of those cancers. I only use 1 Ranger in PvP as I'm already contented reaching 4.4k as anything higher gets more 3-4 Ranger cancer teams. While they're seriously OP while stacked together, we seriously don't need another Valiant Force "Mage-tier" class if you know what I mean

Nerfing will always be the last solution after weeks of balance testing. QA team hates nerfing as well

Seriously, this archer thing really made me want to quit this game for the first time. No matter how good set up I made for my team... But 10+combo in the first 2 turns can seriously kill anything. Get killed like this repeatedly is no longer fun and really not fair. And it's just getting worse as there are more archer team, each team getting stronger, with no way to counter them but luck. (No way for high-end team)

BTW my arena team always end in the top 50 so I have played with all the best archers.

Let's hope Rangers don't get literally get nerfed to the ground. No, I'm not one of those cancers. I only use 1 Ranger in PvP as I'm already contented reaching 4.4k as anything higher gets more 3-4 Ranger cancer teams. While they're seriously OP while stacked together, we seriously don't need another Valiant Force "Mage-tier" class if you know what I mean

Nerfing will always be the last solution after weeks of balance testing. QA team hates nerfing as well

Agreed, nerfing is not a solution..
Restricting the number of same class from squad is the best option (only in Arena)
It will also prevent another kind of cancer team..

Have you ever considered using a teleport spirit walker / warlock? They're pretty useful at the back rows disrupting the formation specially the central archer

The problem is you get wiped out by trigger combo since the first 1-2 turn with no chance to even move a unit.
I built a team to stand 10 combo trigger but hell the combo didn't stop! Happened like 3 times this week already.

Yup. Just echoing the thoughts of others here.

Top 50 arena is just chokefull of archer teams and it's just an rng fest totally devoid of turn based manual strategising.

Put it this way if I put out a 4 archer team team plus one non-guardian I can full auto my arena gameplay. If that does not defeat the purpose of arena play I don't know what does.

As others mentioned, I tried tweaking my squad and ended up losing 30+ matches this round, currently out of top 50, cos even those teams I normally beat are affected as I trial and error. Very frustrating lol.

Just got team wiped (all heroes dead) in a single turn with endless (12+) chain thanks to double striking GS Kane in 4 ranger team.

When can we stop playing Rangers Online and go back to Valiant Force?

Let's hope Rangers don't get literally get nerfed to the ground. No, I'm not one of those cancers. I only use 1 Ranger in PvP as I'm already contented reaching 4.4k as anything higher gets more 3-4 Ranger cancer teams. While they're seriously OP while stacked together, we seriously don't need another Valiant Force "Mage-tier" class if you know what I mean

Nerfing will always be the last solution after weeks of balance testing. QA team hates nerfing as well

There is no need to nerf. I always believe Ranger's aura is to compensate single targeted skill unlike mystic that has aoe skill and healer that has heal skill. The trigger aura helps ranger to be able to do something before getting killed but that's only valid in pve where enemies have extremely high health not pvp where most heroes will have around 10-15k health while critical dmg is 4k-5k in avg.

I believe restrict the number of trigger per turn in pvp is the best solution without having to nerf trigger rate or critical dmg.

Limiting only 1 class per pvp match is widely suggested by many players but it has its downside as many low lv players do not have all class yet. Don't forget that RNG is preventing them from having variety in arena team (some has no 5* shadow, champion or ranger etc till high lv) in the first or second month of their play time. Many that vote for this choice are players above lv 70 that are already at confortable zone with class variety but doing so will ruin new players even more. Do not forget a lot of complains regarding arena matching even at 1100 pts.

I think...

vs 2 ranger combination = 50% chance to win (quite fair)
vs 3 ranger combination = 40% chance to win (very difficult)
vs 4 ranger combination = 10% chance to win, maybe 0 %

it's better to skip this kind of opponent for now. 

By the way I also use combination of Cybella gunslinger and kane in arena. nadia in progress.
I think the solution is to limit the number of trigger in Arena. (maybe the trigerred units shouldn't trigger back) 
let's say 2 times crit damage is more than enough in turn 1.

Let's hope Rangers don't get literally get nerfed to the ground. No, I'm not one of those cancers. I only use 1 Ranger in PvP as I'm already contented reaching 4.4k as anything higher gets more 3-4 Ranger cancer teams. While they're seriously OP while stacked together, we seriously don't need another Valiant Force "Mage-tier" class if you know what I mean

Nerfing will always be the last solution after weeks of balance testing. QA team hates nerfing as well

I believe restrict the number of trigger per turn in pvp is the best solution without having to nerf trigger rate or critical dmg.

And that's exactly the definition of a nerf lol. Balancing or nerf, whatever you call them, they're 2 sides of the same coin. Whatever they do to balance rangers in PvP, I just hope they don't become mage-tier (except Ronan).