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Need advice for squad

Thu May 11, 2017 1:08 am

Hi, I am new player. I play this game almost 1 month. I want to clear story legendary, but i confused with my team because if lose when battle, i must wait energy full for current event and story. I want my team support for future in both pve and pvp

this is my team : Freya dragoon, talissa warlock(kratos), zedd warlock, faye hd, talissa invoker(herc), leon zealot, theia priest, *4 Ronan +2, *4 nadia, *3 cybella
 
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Re: Need advice for squad

Thu May 11, 2017 7:41 am

Don't rush things out, try getting a Sven or Vincent first, then change them into berserker. You need them for the damage output. In Legendary, the best method is not to outlive the enemy, it's to deal damage efficiently to kill the mobs as fast as possible before they can use their skill or kill your team. Preferably, you should get full 4* equipments with matching suffixes for the main team before trying to tackle legendary.

Get Ronan to become Mind warder if you want him for pve (dungeon, event, etc), Rune magus for arena. You might also want to get your cybella to become either Gunslinger or Grand Ranger, as both class allow free attack when she does a critical.

For Arena, have your Talissa Warlock and Talissa Elementalis/Ronan Rune Magus at the very back of your squad, protected by Theia or Faye. Have Leon/Faye and Freya at the front to occupy middle lane. Have Talissa's summoned pet to aid taking the middle lane (though don't do this for Elementalist pet, send it to the middle of opponent squad instead). IMO, you should get your Herc Talissa to become Warlock too, and use your kratos talissa to Limit Break the Herc, as herc faith has better magic stat than kratos.
 
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Re: Need advice for squad

Thu May 11, 2017 9:00 am

Don't rush things out, try getting a Sven or Vincent first, then change them into berserker. You need them for the damage output. In Legendary, the best method is not to outlive the enemy, it's to deal damage efficiently to kill the mobs as fast as possible before they can use their skill or kill your team. Preferably, you should get full 4* equipments with matching suffixes for the main team before trying to tackle legendary.

Get Ronan to become Mind warder if you want him for pve (dungeon, event, etc), Rune magus for arena. You might also want to get your cybella to become either Gunslinger or Grand Ranger, as both class allow free attack when she does a critical.

For Arena, have your Talissa Warlock and Talissa Elementalis/Ronan Rune Magus at the very back of your squad, protected by Theia or Faye. Have Leon/Faye and Freya at the front to occupy middle lane. Have Talissa's summoned pet to aid taking the middle lane (though don't do this for Elementalist pet, send it to the middle of opponent squad instead). IMO, you should get your Herc Talissa to become Warlock too, and use your kratos talissa to Limit Break the Herc, as herc faith has better magic stat than kratos.
What should I choose between Nadia or Cybella ? I confused because both her have same trigger.

I confused with Ronan job path, if I choose rune magus I can't win pve, if mind wanderer I can't defeat player strong than me in arena, what should I do ? :(
 
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Re: Need advice for squad

Fri May 12, 2017 1:49 pm

Do not feel bad. 1 month play time is still considered young account. Legendary mode is much more difficult than heroic. I think every player needs to pause for a little while to strengthen team to clear legendary mode. And once u reach legendary act 4, the difficulty surges up again.

From your current heroes, i think your range units will not survive till they can cast skills (may be except Talissa who has faster cool down). The rules for fighting in legendary at early stage for every players are: 1) to use brute force to kill enemies before they kill u; 2) to rely on def and crowd control skills to tough it out till u can launch skills; and/or to use mixed types of attacks/tactics (pierce, cleave, refresh, knock back and etc) that are suitable for each stage.

IMO, what u lack most is you have no hero with crowd control skills that can stop enemies from attacking (and enemies in legendary stage hit like truck). i think Cybella (GR/GS) will be better than Nadia coz sleep will buy u some time till some of your heroes are ready to launch skills while silence doesnt stop enemies from attacking your team.

Regarding Ronan, if u have athena one, go for Runemagus. I have both MW and RM in good faiths and RM is a better investment on a long term basis. U can use RM in capitol, gold mine and some pve stage, not just arena. MW Ronan is good for tactical play at early game play when u want to delay boss's skills coz u cant deal enough dmg to kill the bosses before they cast skills. but at the latter game play, when your team has built more muscle, RM is more useful due to stronger attack and your team deals enough dmg without the need to delay skill to buy some time.
 
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Re: Need advice for squad

Fri May 12, 2017 7:00 pm

Do not feel bad. 1 month play time is still considered young account. Legendary mode is much more difficult than heroic. I think every player needs to pause for a little while to strengthen team to clear legendary mode. And once u reach legendary act 4, the difficulty surges up again.

From your current heroes, i think your range units will not survive till they can cast skills (may be except Talissa who has faster cool down). The rules for fighting in legendary at early stage for every players are: 1) to use brute force to kill enemies before they kill u; 2) to rely on def and crowd control skills to tough it out till u can launch skills; and/or to use mixed types of attacks/tactics (pierce, cleave, refresh, knock back and etc) that are suitable for each stage.

IMO, what u lack most is you have no hero with crowd control skills that can stop enemies from attacking (and enemies in legendary stage hit like truck). i think Cybella (GR/GS) will be better than Nadia coz sleep will buy u some time till some of your heroes are ready to launch skills while silence doesnt stop enemies from attacking your team.

Regarding Ronan, if u have athena one, go for Runemagus. I have both MW and RM in good faiths and RM is a better investment on a long term basis. U can use RM in capitol, gold mine and some pve stage, not just arena. MW Ronan is good for tactical play at early game play when u want to delay boss's skills coz u cant deal enough dmg to kill the bosses before they cast skills. but at the latter game play, when your team has built more muscle, RM is more useful due to stronger attack and your team deals enough dmg without the need to delay skill to buy some time.
I am now finishing heroic act and the legendary still act 3 by relying on potion and buff item :( i want to finish the story for saving gem for next event because I depressed not get new hero *5 from solo pull and never use x10 pull from first create this account. I regret not do x10 pull from first create, not know if valianite is useful :(

In a few days I will get a valiant ticket from daily login, what should I change in my team ? I hope not get new freya :)
 
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Re: Need advice for squad

Fri May 12, 2017 11:00 pm

As ashen said you need to up your cybella to gr or gs and try to get her crit up as you will need high crit for triggers. If you want to excel in arena I think you already have some good units and just need to work on your equips. For arena focus on your faye, ronan/s, talissa and you could fit in your freya there. For your valiant ticket, while waiting for the valiants' revamp, you would want kane, lucille and shizu but if you dont get them dont be sad as the others could still be useful soon. Prioritize cybella before nadia.
 
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Re: Need advice for squad

Fri May 12, 2017 11:47 pm

As ashen said you need to up your cybella to gr or gs and try to get her crit up as you will need high crit for triggers. If you want to excel in arena I think you already have some good units and just need to work on your equips. For arena focus on your faye, ronan/s, talissa and you could fit in your freya there. For your valiant ticket, while waiting for the valiants' revamp, you would want kane, lucille and shizu but if you dont get them dont be sad as the others could still be useful soon. Prioritize cybella before nadia.
Thank you, I only have heirloom set for freya and *3 set for others team. I will focus build cybella to GS and max heirloom set but freya faith Hera Just hoping to get critical attack :(

Zedd is useless or not ?
If useless i want make zedd to roll faith Freya or talissa but scared not get her best faith :(
 
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Re: Need advice for squad

Sat May 13, 2017 1:55 am

hmmm i can't give u hint yet, because i don't know ur squad depth, about Zedd, yes zedd not quite good except u don't have any other choices, i will not suggest u to waste ur gold for Zedd.
If you have talissa, that's without any doubt i will suggest to build & use it & have priority to build her as warlock

for ur freiya hera, don't build her yet, wait till valiant revamped up, except u don't have any frontliner at ur disposal, but at glance i see from above post, it seems u have many archer at ur disposal, if u have more than 2 archer, u don't need melee to be ur frontliner, just make range type of squad that consist of trigger archer or mystic, or mix it between 2.

Just my 2 cents 
 
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Re: Need advice for squad

Sat May 13, 2017 2:57 am

hmmm i can't give u hint yet, because i don't know ur squad depth, about Zedd, yes zedd not quite good except u don't have any other choices, i will not suggest u to waste ur gold for Zedd.
If you have talissa, that's without any doubt i will suggest to build & use it & have priority to build her as warlock

for ur freiya hera, don't build her yet, wait till valiant revamped up, except u don't have any frontliner at ur disposal, but at glance i see from above post, it seems u have many archer at ur disposal, if u have more than 2 archer, u don't need melee to be ur frontliner, just make range type of squad that consist of trigger archer or mystic, or mix it between 2.

Just my 2 cents 
Freya is my first hero I build her to dragoon and set her with heirloom set.
this is my squad now: Faye hd athena, Ronan RM ares, Freya Dragoon hera, zedd warlock athena, Talissa Warlock Kratos, *4 Theia athena,*4 Talissa Herc, *4 Nadia herc, *3 Cybella athena, *3 Leon zeus. My first *4 Leon for fooder Ronan :(

there is no event so I focus to max heirloom set for freya :)
 
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Re: Need advice for squad

Sat May 13, 2017 3:32 am

Make sure to make your cybella hera. No need to start rushing max your heirloom lol. My champion heirloom is at 5* +15 with the correct stats but it takes time to do that and should only be done when you have the spare resources to do so. Summoning x10 just for upgrading it to 4* alone will be very costly and is ill adivised. Take your time and resource and you will surely make it in no time. Most importanty enjoy the game! :D